Lets make some money.

[Fiva]

Hello everyone , Im Fiva. and i am a cryptocurrency trader since 2016.
Today i want to announce that i just started offering account managment for newbie traders.
for anyone who want to see some of my old trades can check this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228405.0
How do i trade your account? do i need to send you my funds to manage? No! i don't need full control over the funs , i can work with API-KEYS from any exchange that you want.

Note: for people thinking that its possible to exchange btc between accounts using low liquidity shitcoins, i can tell you that i have never tried this before so i dont know how exactly this work. but for your safety i got a solution , we can use bitmex. because the cryptos listed in bitmex are all HIGH liquidity.

Offer: anyone holding 0.50 BTC or more in binance or bitmex can contact me here : telegram @FivaSaid
I offer 3 FREE QUICK-SCALP SIGNALS to anyone whos not sure about joining.

Fees:
managing 0.50 - 2 BTC fees are 50% from the profit
managing 2 - 5 BTC fees are 45% from the profit
managing 5 - 10 BTC fees are 40%
managing 10 BTC+ fees are 35%


tradingview profile: https://www.tradingview.com/u/fivasaid/

Contact me : @FivaSaid telegram/twitter

e-mail: fivasaid@gmail.com

Welcome everyone  

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[andulolika]

This is the same Modus Operandi of same fucking scammer i been seeing for years, gambling for others and doing anything for others, will pay back only to get few more customers before running away.
Been few years , sorry for intrerrupting your biz.
Could find atleast a example if i were pushed, funds were seized in a casino, I wouldn't wonder if this is the same subject that been generating FUD towards that casino lately.

[examplens]

this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

[Fiva]

this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

[boyptc]

I understand that as if you are good at risk management but why offer a service if you can apply it to yourself and make it lucrative with your skill?

[Fiva]

I understand that as if you are good at risk management but why offer a service if you can apply it to yourself and make it lucrative with your skill?

currently i manage around 1 BTC, looking to manage more.
the more capital i trade , the more profit i make.

[seoincorporation]

i can work with API-KEYS from any exchange that you want.

This is a high risk for the users because you can use those keys to make a withdraw or use those keys to dump a coin before using your own coins to buy cheap.

Something smells fishy here, you really think someone will give you access to half btc?

[rodskee]

I understand that as if you are good at risk management but why offer a service if you can apply it to yourself and make it lucrative with your skill?

currently i manage around 1 BTC, looking to manage more.
the more capital i trade , the more profit i make.

If you are just looking for Bigger capital to profit more then Make your 1 BTC grow so in time you will get more capital right?

and besides you have mentioned being a trader since  2016 but Only Manage to make 1btc?for that 4 years of experience only 1 btc you accumulate then how do we trust you with that kind of profiting?

Something smells fishy here, you really think someone will give you access to half btc?

Don't worry mate no one will surely trust OP with this kind of offering .

[boyptc]

I understand that as if you are good at risk management but why offer a service if you can apply it to yourself and make it lucrative with your skill?

currently i manage around 1 BTC, looking to manage more.
the more capital i trade , the more profit i make.

Ok, I guess I can comprehend what you are thinking with that strategy but I agree to what this guy has said.

If you are just looking for Bigger capital to profit more then Make your 1 BTC grow so in time you will get more capital right?

and besides you have mentioned being a trader since  2016 but Only Manage to make 1btc?for that 4 years of experience only 1 btc you accumulate then how do we trust you with that kind of profiting?

[smyslov]

If you are just looking for Bigger capital to profit more then Make your 1 BTC grow so in time you will get more capital right?

and besides you have mentioned being a trader since  2016 but Only Manage to make 1btc?for that 4 years of experience only 1 btc you accumulate then how do we trust you with that kind of profiting?

This the best comment and it end every possible reasoning OP could come out but things will be different if you have a reputation to protect here
so many newbies in the past that have come out offering similar like this in the past and it has become a big lesson for all of us newbies must present something huge if they are offering something that is too good to be true.

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this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

Again, you talking about your fees of profit, but you did not say anything who's cover any loss from there? Or you want to say that your service has 100% loss-free?
You asking someone's money to spend it, so you must expect from money owner to ask you some questions.
who covers the losses made by your wrong assessment?

[andulolika]

this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

Again, you talking about your fees of profit, but you did not say anything who's cover any loss from there? Or you want to say that your service has 100% loss-free?
You asking someone's money to spend it, so you must expect from money owner to ask you some questions.
who covers the losses made by your wrong assessment?

He said it already, if he loses it's lost and he takes no blame, he works just the same as he did in 2014-2016.

quote: I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

As far as logic goes by those claims he can aswell take 50% of the amount for himself first and play the rest.

Amazing tho, he became a trader from a gambler, hou.

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this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

Again, you talking about your fees of profit, but you did not say anything who's cover any loss from there? Or you want to say that your service has 100% loss-free?
You asking someone's money to spend it, so you must expect from money owner to ask you some questions.
who covers the losses made by your wrong assessment?

He said it already, if he loses it's lost and he takes no blame, he works just the same as he did in 2014-2016.

quote: I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

As far as logic goes by those claims he can aswell take 50% of the amount for himself first and play the rest.

Amazing tho, he became a trader from a gambler, hou.

Let me try again.
If he uses your 0.5 BTC to trade, made some profit in the first week and you split it 50:50. So next three week something going wrong, and after one month you want to stop with the contract because you need this money for some other stuff. But there you have only 0.475 BTC. an obvious 5% loss
So, my question is, who covers the loss? No matter is it 50% or 5% or 0.5%, is it also split as a gain 50:50?

[andulolika]

this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

Again, you talking about your fees of profit, but you did not say anything who's cover any loss from there? Or you want to say that your service has 100% loss-free?
You asking someone's money to spend it, so you must expect from money owner to ask you some questions.
who covers the losses made by your wrong assessment?

He said it already, if he loses it's lost and he takes no blame, he works just the same as he did in 2014-2016.

quote: I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

As far as logic goes by those claims he can aswell take 50% of the amount for himself first and play the rest.

Amazing tho, he became a trader from a gambler, hou.

Let me try again.
If he uses your 0.5 BTC to trade, made some profit in the first week and you split it 50:50. So next three week something going wrong, and after one month you want to stop with the contract because you need this money for some other stuff. But there you have only 0.475 BTC. an obvious 5% loss
So, my question is, who covers the loss? No matter is it 50% or 5% or 0.5%, is it also split as a gain 50:50?

Not sure why would you try to make it as it's a doable service, I know what I seen and It looks quite obvious how this would go.
I just guess you wondering as if this was a parallel universe where this had any logic.
Knowing him I'd say loss doesn't exist only try till rekt.
For you to get any profit he would need to double the money and make another bit i'd say. I see it as a ponzi, might get some might not but probably won't.

[Fiva]

this is no longer funny. Big experienced traders, promising lot of profit but they haven't his own money. Traders since 2016, who does not have his own capital.
OP you post your fees of profit, but how split loss? Do you have money to cover a 50% loss in 0.5BTC trading? Or you want to say, you take the profit but you don't take the risk of losing?

I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

Again, you talking about your fees of profit, but you did not say anything who's cover any loss from there? Or you want to say that your service has 100% loss-free?
You asking someone's money to spend it, so you must expect from money owner to ask you some questions.
who covers the losses made by your wrong assessment?

He said it already, if he loses it's lost and he takes no blame, he works just the same as he did in 2014-2016.

quote: I am not that stupid to lose 50%, risk managment is a MUST

As far as logic goes by those claims he can aswell take 50% of the amount for himself first and play the rest.

Amazing tho, he became a trader from a gambler, hou.

Let me try again.
If he uses your 0.5 BTC to trade, made some profit in the first week and you split it 50:50. So next three week something going wrong, and after one month you want to stop with the contract because you need this money for some other stuff. But there you have only 0.475 BTC. an obvious 5% loss
So, my question is, who covers the loss? No matter is it 50% or 5% or 0.5%, is it also split as a gain 50:50?

Not sure why would you try to make it as it's a doable service, I know what I seen and It looks quite obvious how this would go.
I just guess you wondering as if this was a parallel universe where this had any logic.
Knowing him I'd say loss doesn't exist only try till rekt.
For you to get any profit he would need to double the money and make another bit i'd say. I see it as a ponzi, might get some might not but probably won't.

the loss is covere by the investor , for example if i start trading 0.5 btc and i made a loss and the balance became 0.45 btc, i wont get paid for any profit that i make unless i surpass 0.5 BTC , everything aove 0.5BTC should be splited between me and the investor. but if i start with 0.5BTC an i made a loss and the balance became 0.45 BTC and i kept loosing for a week or so and then u decide to stop working with me , i will not pay you for your loss , every investment has a risk and you shoul consider this.
Never invest money that you can't afford to lose

[Fiva]

I understand that as if you are good at risk management but why offer a service if you can apply it to yourself and make it lucrative with your skill?

currently i manage around 1 BTC, looking to manage more.
the more capital i trade , the more profit i make.

If you are just looking for Bigger capital to profit more then Make your 1 BTC grow so in time you will get more capital right?

and besides you have mentioned being a trader since  2016 but Only Manage to make 1btc?for that 4 years of experience only 1 btc you accumulate then how do we trust you with that kind of profiting?

Something smells fishy here, you really think someone will give you access to half btc?

Don't worry mate no one will surely trust OP with this kind of offering .

let me tell you that i have lost so much bitcoin in 2016-2018 ( it was a great experience for me and i dont regret it) since i learned so many things in this period.
after that i started from ZERO and made a good return in the last two years. and i keep developping my trading strategy , reducing the risks and increasing the profit.

[Strufmbae]

I understand that as if you are good at risk management but why offer a service if you can apply it to yourself and make it lucrative with your skill?

currently i manage around 1 BTC, looking to manage more.
the more capital i trade , the more profit i make.

It's a matter of trust and Professionality, what others want you to do is to make transparency?

Here is what I have been thinking if this Job is Legit.

if you earn 25 % profit from your Capital then Keep it or look for an escrow to make it safe and Look for another investor.

so the move would be Like This.

the escrow will keep your 25 % investment and the 25 % Invest of The investor, so You'll gonna have 50 % capital no matter how much it is.

so in order to make the business run.

You as the trader will use the 25 % of your INVESTMENT and The Investor's Investment to be traded. and then there would be a remaining 25 % of investment that would be use and be refunded to the Investor if in case it turns to be scam?


so if ever you gain a profit from your 25% then, make it half for you and your Investor?


P.S. sorry Can't explain it well, I hope you get the idea.

[fortunecrypto]

It's a matter of trust and Professionality, what others want you to do is to make transparency?

Here is what I have been thinking if this Job is Legit.

if you earn 25 % profit from your Capital then Keep it or look for an escrow to make it safe and Look for another investor.

so the move would be Like This.

the escrow will keep your 25 % investment and the 25 % Invest of The investor, so You'll gonna have 50 % capital no matter how much it is.

so in order to make the business run.

You as the trader will use the 25 % of your INVESTMENT and The Investor's Investment to be traded. and then there would be a remaining 25 % of investment that would be use and be refunded to the Investor if in case it turns to be scam?


so if ever you gain a profit from your 25% then, make it half for you and your Investor?


P.S. sorry Can't explain it well, I hope you get the idea.

That's a good idea, OP is trying to make it safe for investors and to save your reputation, you don't go here with this kind of offer without securing your investors, for me if you have build your trading portfolio, you don't have to offer this kind of service go on continue making money for yourself, then launch a tutorial lesson you can charge a fee then.

[20kevin20]

Is it necessary to start four. fucking. threads. on here. for the same service you're offering?

I find it funny how if I give you $10k you'll take half of the profit but if you make me lose $1k I don't receive anything in return..

[Fiva]

Is it necessary to start four. fucking. threads. on here. for the same service you're offering?

I find it funny how if I give you $10k you'll take half of the profit but if you make me lose $1k I don't receive anything in return..

im doing this for my biz , do you have a problem?