CoronaVirus USA - Open by easter?

[exstasie]

I don't honestly think the death rate is going to be as large as people make it out to be TBH. People are often comparing it to the flu which is over-diagnosed (there-by lowering the death rate percentage).. But at the same time Corona is under-diagnosed. I'm sure there have been plenty of people who have it, weren't able to get tested due to either limitations or difficulty in finding testing, recovered and weren't apart of the statistics.

I've been saying that for a while, that the original 3-4% mortality estimates were exaggerated by an order of magnitude. This thing has infected way more people than the official numbers recognize.

We're finally getting some confirmation about that. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html

How many people die after being infected with the novel coronavirus? Fewer than previously calculated, according to a study released Monday, but still more than die from the flu.

The research, published in the medical journal The Lancet Infectious Diseases, estimated that about 0.66% of those infected with the virus will die.

There are people spreading information about Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin as an effective treatment for COVID-19 on social media. Is that fake news, or is that the cure that might beat the pandemic?

There have been no completed clinical trials yet but:

It definitely isn't a cure but it might be an effective treatment. Although detractors have all but written it off, there are some early signs the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combo may be effective.

Doctors in Bahrain are administering it to patients. The government says it was effective in "alleviating the symptoms of the virus and reducing its complications." https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/03/bahrain-claim-success-anti-malarial-drug-coronavirus.html#ixzz6I47tr8BO

A small French study found that "hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

South Korean doctors also found "some success" administering hydroxychloroquine to COVID-19 patients. https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/28/desantis-shipments-of-drug-hydroxychloroquine-to-help-covid-19-on-way-to-florida/

[Juggy777]

There are people spreading information about Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin as an effective treatment for COVID-19 on social media. Is that fake news, or is that the cure that might beat the pandemic?

Plus, Chinese propaganda, https://twitter.com/kpags1/status/1244344145646440456

Who's fault is COVID-19 pandemic?

In my personal opinion one should not consume those medicines without medical advice, as we do not know if it could backfire on the person as each one has a different medical history. Furthermore we can bother about who started coronavirus later but right now all we need to do is sit in home tight and avoid going out, and let’s hope come May 1st this social distancing rules will end for good.

Sources:

https://fortune.com/2020/03/29/coronavirus-social-distancing-april/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/30/fda-approves-anti-malarial-drugs-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-for-emergency-coronavirus-treatment/#322a8835e5d1

[alevlaslo]

China uses viruses to even the balance between the old and the young, they realized that the one-child policy is not suitable, so they lifted the ban on the second. The problem as always in stupidity, it is necessary not to destroy old people with viruses and not to occupy new territories, but to prohibit childbirth around the world so that old people become younger. There is no hood without good, any good is balanced by the recalculation of physics under the relevance of the application of good.

[figmentofmyass]

"This virus is going to be with us. I'm hopeful that we'll get through this first wave and, and have some time to prepare for the second wave. I'm hopeful that the private sector in its ingenuity and working with the government, NIH, will develop a vaccine that ultimately will change the impact of this virus.

But for the next 24 months, you know, we're all in this together....." -CDC Director

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824155179/cdc-director-on-models-for-the-months-to-come-this-virus-is-going-to-be-with-us

so much for opening up by easter huh?

bad news everywhere. everyday it seems like there is a new "epicenter".....new york, florida, new orleans. i'm surprised the markets aren't crashing. i guess investors are still high from the promise of stimulus and bailouts?

[Twinkledoe]

"This virus is going to be with us. I'm hopeful that we'll get through this first wave and, and have some time to prepare for the second wave. I'm hopeful that the private sector in its ingenuity and working with the government, NIH, will develop a vaccine that ultimately will change the impact of this virus.

But for the next 24 months, you know, we're all in this together....." -CDC Director

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824155179/cdc-director-on-models-for-the-months-to-come-this-virus-is-going-to-be-with-us

so much for opening up by easter huh?

bad news everywhere. everyday it seems like there is a new "epicenter".....new york, florida, new orleans. i'm surprised the markets aren't crashing. i guess investors are still high from the promise of stimulus and bailouts?

Opening that early is I think not a smart decision though. They might regret it afterwards. Just saying... Or if they will open, they need to follow strict social distancing?? I guess.

[criza]

The president might have strategical concepts about getting rid of the virus, that is why he have said that. But, I don't think all is well when it Easter because the time frame is too short for the society to recover from the destructive pandemic and there are still no known cure for it. Let's hope for a good news next month.

[Raflesia]

There are people spreading information about Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin as an effective treatment for COVID-19 on social media. Is that fake news, or is that the cure that might beat the pandemic?

Plus, Chinese propaganda, https://twitter.com/kpags1/status/1244344145646440456

Who's fault is COVID-19 pandemic?

I still have not seen legal news about a drug that can handle this pandemic because until now there is still confusion about the vaccine for the treatment of Covid-19. No one can conclude that the drug is except WHO who provides its clarification so there I will believe what is in remove from the WHO statement. We still have to fight pandemics no matter how, because this has paralyzed cities and thousands that are united throughout the world. Must keep a distance.

What is clear is that the Covid-19 pandemic started in Wuhan, China.

[Initscri]

China uses viruses to even the balance between the old and the young, they realized that the one-child policy is not suitable, so they lifted the ban on the second. The problem as always in stupidity, it is necessary not to destroy old people with viruses and not to occupy new territories, but to prohibit childbirth around the world so that old people become younger. There is no hood without good, any good is balanced by the recalculation of physics under the relevance of the application of good.

That's a hell of a conspiracy theory.

I don't believe they actually would have done that knowing how influenza travels / would affect other countries, including countries they are semi-financially dependent on. They're economy is taking a huge hit from this as well.

There are people spreading information about Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin as an effective treatment for COVID-19 on social media. Is that fake news, or is that the cure that might beat the pandemic?

Plus, Chinese propaganda, https://twitter.com/kpags1/status/1244344145646440456

Who's fault is COVID-19 pandemic?

I don't believe the actual true facts regarding it's development will ever come to fruition. Nor will it be believed if it does.

[BChydro]

bad news everywhere. everyday it seems like there is a new "epicenter".....new york, florida, new orleans. i'm surprised the markets aren't crashing. i guess investors are still high from the promise of stimulus and bailouts?

The markets have already gone down a lot and some of the central banks are coming up with stimulus package and loan extension but the biggest question will be, when will we see everything back to normal, if the lock down is forced to continue for a few more months how will be able to cope up with the situation, things are not that great and the market will take a huge hit and i am expecting a major correction as the recession will hit us badly.

[FanatMonet]

By Easter, nothing will be open, everything by and large is just beginning, and most likely, everything will have to sit at home, in April and May, and this is in the best case, otherwise there will be a high probability of getting another wave of infections.

[exstasie]

I think it's really unfortunate that to prevent mask shortages the surgeon general and the CDC have materially mislead the public about the efficacy of masks.  The obvious way to phase out shutdowns would be to massively manufacture masks (even just surgical masks) and make wearing them in public mandatory for everyone.  There is significant evidence that population scale use of masks significantly lowers contagion for similar diseases and for sars-cov-2 in particular, and it would be a great way to reduce the unacceptable spike in additional hospitalizations a couple weeks after reducing distancing measures. In addition to the direct effect of reducing the spread, masks serve as a reminder of the risk (improving compliance with handwashing and distance keeping), discourage touching the face (for most people), and would be a visual identifier for idiots who are out without taking the pandemic seriously and whom should be avoided as a result. At this point, however, I think it would be politically impossible to go that route because it would require politicians to admit that they mislead the public, and it would require convincing the public to wear masks when many people now believe they don't work.

Looks like they might do it anyway: CDC considering recommending general public wear face coverings in public

Due to the shortage of surgical and N95 masks, they may recommend that people wear cloth and other DIY face coverings.

[Lucius]

UNDATED (AP/WKRC) - Millions of Americans will be infected by the coronavirus and 100,000 to 200,000 will die, the U.S. government's top infectious-disease expert warned Sunday, as people in and around the country's outbreak epicenter of New York were urged to limit their travel to contain the scourge.
The dire prediction came from Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaking on CNN's “State of the Union.” As of Sunday morning, the U.S. had about 125,000 infections and 2,200 deaths.

In just 4-5 days the number of confirmed infected has doubled from 100 000 to almost 200 000, and by all that is happening, the USA will be the largest COVID-19 battlefield. 30 states have introduced some adequate measures, but in the other 20, life is still going as the usual.

For all that is happening, Americans should thank their president, who has recently claimed that there will be no more than 15 cases of infection. Unfortunately, the reality is that politicians (who generally have no idea about anything) don't listen to scientists and doctors, and now we have a global result of their politics.

[awik p]

By Easter, nothing will be open, everything by and large is just beginning, and most likely, everything will have to sit at home, in April and May, and this is in the best case, otherwise there will be a high probability of getting another wave of infections.

right, we must decide the development of the virus by sitting at home. so that we can immediately move quietly. we know this virus is very contagious, and this is a world war, with the same enemy, and therefore needed cooperation to help each other help

[verita1]

Of course, not. The future of Coronavirus in the USA is very delicate. For the good of all of us, I hope they manage to control the epidemic. Sadly, they are innocent lives that are being lost and that the pandemic of Covid19 will bring negative effects on a global level.

[imstillthebest]

open like they are ready to accept tourist again ?  or maybe you mean their people can live normally again ? but wont only accept visitors for a while ? because other countries are still ill.  they dont want to get infected again arent they ?

 its okay if they will end home quarantine by easter as long as all people on that country are already verified to be corona free  . look at china , i think china are already back again on the game along time ago

[stompix]

So, nothing will happen before easter.

All around the world, everyone is canceling easter plans and even the most hardcore of churches, the Greek Orthodox Church is saying they will keep everything closed, and the orthodox easter is one week after, on the 19th.
As much as people tried to see in that date some miraculous turnaround point, it won't be that way.

Even Trump is backpedaling a lot lately:

President Donald Trump abruptly abandoned his ambition to return American life to normal by Easter, heeding advice from the government’s top doctors that re-opening the U.S. economy in two weeks risks more deaths as the coronavirus outbreak accelerates.
In a stark shift from two weeks of measured optimism, the president said his guidelines for Americans to practice “social distancing” would remain in place until at least April 30, and he warned that 100,000 or more people may die.
He said in a Rose Garden news conference that he hoped the country would reach “the bottom of the hill” by June 1 — “could even be sooner, could be a little bit later.”

Nope, this crap won't end till Easter, won't end till May and maybe we will be able to go on with our normal lives in a normal way by June.
That....if you can call normal how things are going to look.

Unfortunately, the reality is that politicians (who generally have no idea about anything) don't listen to scientists and doctors, and now we have a global result of their politics.

Well, it started with a doctor being silenced for trying to warn the world, it will go like this till people will finally get fed up with it and ask for the changes needed to prevent these situations when country after country is taken by surprise while everybody could see the writing on the wall months ago.

[Lucius]

Well, it started with a doctor being silenced for trying to warn the world, it will go like this till people will finally get fed up with it and ask for the changes needed to prevent these situations when country after country is taken by surprise while everybody could see the writing on the wall months ago.

This is unfortunately a bitter truth, the man wanted to warn his country and the world, but he was not aware that the Communist Party of China do not like such heroes. In the fight against the virus, he too lost his life - so although it may sound inhumane, this may be better for him than ending up in some death camp.

And today I read that Trump blamed China for concealing real data, because that's what the most powerful secret agencies tell him - which is of course a classic political spin in the sense of "I had the wrong information - that's why I claimed the virus would disappear when the sun went out and the bees went fly from flower to flower ".

What most people do not want to accept is the fact that ordinary people have always been, and still are expendable. What's the difference in sending people to die in meaningless wars thousands of miles away from their homeland, and in fact that several hundred thousand would die from virus, and many of them will be elders, homeless, poor. American politics has always had money and profits first, then its citizens, and this situation is no exception.

[tvplus006]

so much for opening up by easter huh?

bad news everywhere. everyday it seems like there is a new "epicenter".....new york, florida, new orleans. i'm surprised the markets aren't crashing. i guess investors are still high from the promise of stimulus and bailouts?

This is a very optimistic forecast. There is too little time left before Easter and too sad results of the spread of the coronavirus infection. I think that the deadline for the end of the quarantine will be postponed several more times. Otherwise, you can not completely defeat this infection.

[panganib999]

Trump just wants to appeal to his Christian voters who can't wait to go to church (though many actually ignore quarantine for it). The US is still far from reaching the peak, even Italy which started to have coronavirus earlier still hasn't peaked. If Trump will proceed with this plan, he'll likely make things much worse.

True, if he still planning to do that probably the number of cases on the U.S will increase more thinking that U.S has the highest rate of cases worldwide followed by Italy. It is hard to decide right now, especially for President Trump but I think his plans on re-opening some companies is not a big help to reduce the number of cases in US, maybe it will help their economy to move again but for people it is a big NO. There is a lot of impact that might happen if he continue the plan. At this moment, we all know the COVID-19 is very dangerous and rapidly spreading so for me just stay at home for your family's safety and don't listen to other politicians who wants to manipulate us that everything will be alright in just a snap because that's not gonna happen knowing the virus. Maybe if all the people that are going back to work are already tested as negative, they can work free but it is still risky to roam outside, or simply to go outside because the places are not yet cleaned and disinfected. For now, I think he better keep he's decision straight and think about the people that will be affected before considering this plan.

[TIDOVEE]

Well, probably it is a pronouncement of faith because they still count infection and death rate till date, though subsiding and very much under control. Donald Trump is such religious that he may also not want to deprive the faith believers their gathering, it will be very risky decision if the environment is not well under safety before announcing that, because open for one may be open for all.