Corona crisis will be used to implement mass surveillance, BTC to the moooon...?

[sbogovac]

This Israeli historian/philosopher figured out what the "endgame" of the "elite" will be this crisis: in short "mass surveillance"...

Just imagine what that will mean for the BTC price...

[GreatArkansas]

Possibly a big impact also in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
But what if most of the government will start to implement much stricter laws against Bitcoin? We all know these past years how the price of Bitcoin affected because of some countries start banning or making some laws against Bitcoin.
But Bitcoin still here. Although, we can make it but still, it takes time.

[pakhitheboss]

Mass surveillance is already in existence, before the virus outbreak. Nothing changes at that time and nothing will in this situation. People are selling their Bitcoin for fiat as fiat is the only acceptable currency in crisis situation.

I think it will have a negative effect on the performance of Bitcoin, which is evident considering the current market condition. We expected Bitcoin to moon before halving but it is no where near to that.

[sbogovac]

Mass surveillance is already in existence, before the virus outbreak. Nothing changes at that time and nothing will in this situation. People are selling their Bitcoin for fiat as fiat is the only acceptable currency in crisis situation.

I think it will have a negative effect on the performance of Bitcoin, which is evident considering the current market condition. We expected Bitcoin to moon before halving but it is no where near to that.

Have you read the linked article, because I suspect you haven't. It clearly states that; yes, mass surveillance allready exists on a large scale but the current crisis will let the "Cambridge analytica" scandal pale by comparison... Why? Read the article... (TL;DR: biometrics and voluntary mass adoption).

And yes, maybe in the short term we're all exchanging BTC for FIAT because we need the money now. But what about the long term (once we realise the above has happened...)?

[bitbunnny]

Mass surveillance isn't something new and it's already implemented in some countries.
However, I don't see how would that impact so significant on Bitcoin price that we could expect very high rise.
Yes, some people will maybe use cryptocurrencies more but we still can't survive without fiat and still very, very snall number of people in.the world is using cryptocurrencies. So, don't have exaggerated expectations regarding Bitcoin price due to the measures connected with corona virus pandemia.

[Asuspawer09]

This Israeli historian/philosopher figured out what the "endgame" of the "elite" will be this crisis: in short "mass surveillance"...

Just imagine what that will mean for the BTC price...

As long as the people are going to obeyed orders from the government I think we could easily eliminate the coronavirus crisis.

Mass surveillance? For me, this could be a great implementation for a lot of countries and I think already existing for some countries and cities.

This could always affect the market price of bitcoin, But we don't really know how it will affect it until it happened.

[crwth]

As read in the article, I do not think that the "humanity" per se, is making a choice there. It's still the one in order or the top rank in the country. Anyways, the fact about humanity is that most of the people are greedy, and in so many ways, this is shown by example. That is the problem. As much as I want unity for global solidarity and helping one another, that's just the hindrance. A greedy man would make shockwaves in the wrong directions.

[Artemis3]

This Israeli historian/philosopher figured out what the "endgame" of the "elite" will be this crisis: in short "mass surveillance"...

Just imagine what that will mean for the BTC price...

While i agree that world governments are ramping up mass surveillance, i fail to see a connection with the virus. The usual suspects for pushing this are terrorism and criminals...

Coincidentally (or not) i also fail to see the connection with bitcoin.

This mass surveillance business has been going on at least since 9-11 if not before.

[valuater]

Possibly a big impact also in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
But what if most of the government will start to implement much stricter laws against Bitcoin? We all know these past years how the price of Bitcoin affected because of some countries start banning or making some laws against Bitcoin.
But Bitcoin still here. Although, we can make it but still, it takes time.

For the mean time when the corona virus will be over, the price of bitcoin will moon very fast because I think some government would embrace it. The banning in the past was as a result of fud that it wasn't used legitimately but now they can see the benefit and purpose it can serve.

It is not impossible that a ban that a few years ago the country to ban bitcoin would accept bitcoin, because this could be one way to stabilize the currency price in the country from a really sharp weakening in the last week due to the coronavirus, hopefully of course this can really be a serious lesson for the country to accept bitcoin immediately so it is not impossible that the price of bitcoin will again strengthen.

[sbogovac]

As read in the article, I do not think that the "humanity" per se, is making a choice there. It's still the one in order or the top rank in the country. Anyways, the fact about humanity is that most of the people are greedy, and in so many ways, this is shown by example. That is the problem. As much as I want unity for global solidarity and helping one another, that's just the hindrance. A greedy man would make shockwaves in the wrong directions.

OK, every human for himself then...?

[Yogee]

Millions of people freely give their information on social media, what makes you think they really care about surveillance? All those rants against facebook and google selling their information didn't stop them from using other social media apps like tiktok and instagram.

Even if they find out that there is mass surveillance, there is no guarantee that these people who got used to services offered by centralized entities like banks would switch to buying Bitcoin. Something that they may find unsafe and incovenient to do.

[sbogovac]

[...] While i agree that world governments are ramping up mass surveillance, i fail to see a connection with the virus. The usual suspects for pushing this are terrorism and criminals...

Coincidentally (or not) i also fail to see the connection with bitcoin.

This mass surveillance business has been going on at least since 9-11 if not before.

Two things:

1. Corona will speed up adaptation: the narrative will be: don't you want "us all" to be healthy? What kind of monster are you? (Health could prove a stronger "motivator" than [fear of] terrorism/pedophilia.)

2. Corona will make the switch from "external" mass surveillance (what do you do) to internal mass surveillance (how do you feel). Think about the consequences of that (Example: "Why do you feel anger if you're watching a speech of our great leader?")

Bitcoin (or some other crypto) will at least provide some anonymity (cash is already being banned fast in most infected countries)...

[In the silence]

The author are like exposing conspiracy by the elite to control the movements of the people, I agree that the technologies we have now are the tools that the elite control the masses.

If this succeed there will be no privacy anymore and people who do illegal activities may be used to track another illegal activities that will benefit the elite.

[BluePowder]

sbogovac your one line analysis is a kick in the teeth to people who actually think.

people have turned less and less to BTC with each passing event. only institutional trading has grown and not adaptability or usability and why people would turn to BTC for anything in a dystopian future is beyond me, I think its beyond you too. With more watching expect more people to turn off not on.

people who say things like to the moon and hodl are small time traders wishing and wishing

[Latviand]

Mass surveillance is already in existence, before the virus outbreak. Nothing changes at that time and nothing will in this situation. People are selling their Bitcoin for fiat as fiat is the only acceptable currency in crisis situation.

I think it will have a negative effect on the performance of Bitcoin, which is evident considering the current market condition. We expected Bitcoin to moon before halving but it is no where near to that.

Have you read the linked article, because I suspect you haven't. It clearly states that; yes, mass surveillance allready exists on a large scale but the current crisis will let the "Cambridge analytica" scandal pale by comparison... Why? Read the article... (TL;DR: biometrics and voluntary mass adoption).

And yes, maybe in the short term we're all exchanging BTC for FIAT because we need the money now. But what about the long term (once we realise the above has happened...)?

Also some countries doesn't support cryptocurrency that's why they only allow fiat currency to manipulate in its markets. We should make some adjustments if we really need to use our bitcoin for our necessities to fight this crisis. But how can you convert your bitcoin to fiat if you're not allowed to go out and also there's no Bitcoin ATM in some countries. It is very hassle and I hope that mass adoption of bitcoin will soon be developed so that we can have transaction just by using our cellphones as a payment. Exchanging BTC to a fiat isn't that easy and you need to undergo a lot of process that's why people really sell it for an instant transaction and for money. Also the market condition also affects its price and there's a hindrance on the withdrawal of fiat currency.

[BluePowder]

If this was possible it would have been done in the last 10 years. There are millions or people and stores and all those people combined couldn't make it happen. Bitcoin has no place in P2P transactions, that may have been its original intention but only the dark side of life has picked it up and the rest is controlled by financial institutions.

Also some countries doesn't support cryptocurrency that's why they only allow fiat currency to manipulate in its markets. We should make some adjustments if we really need to use our bitcoin for our necessities to fight this crisis. But how can you convert your bitcoin to fiat if you're not allowed to go out and also there's no Bitcoin ATM in some countries. It is very hassle and I hope that mass adoption of bitcoin will soon be developed so that we can have transaction just by using our cellphones as a payment. Exchanging BTC to a fiat isn't that easy and you need to undergo a lot of process that's why people really sell it for an instant transaction and for money. Also the market condition also affects its price and there's a hindrance on the withdrawal of fiat currency.

[sbogovac]

This is just another conspiracy theory.

You obviously haven't read the article, nor checked its (very reputable) source...

[Mpamaegbu]

This Israeli historian/philosopher figured out what the "endgame" of the "elite" will be this crisis: in short "mass surveillance"...

Just imagine what that will mean for the BTC price...

I share in your sentiment. I had a similar discussion with someone offline a few days ago and I was optimistic that Bitcoin may moon even before that actual Bitcoin halving sets in. This assurance is easy to cone into term with when one runs through the charts for Bitcoin price. Quite alright, the price plummeted a few weeks ago in the heat of Coronavirus but that seem to have stabilized now as Bitcoin quickly recovered from that initial loss. I expect more gains for Bitcoin. Perhaps if stability is achieved it could be the ingredient needed for mass adoption of Bitcoin.

[avikz]

Yuval Noah Harari have spoken very sensibly here. He had mentioned 4 points on how the government will achieve mass surveillance. They are,

1. Under-the-skin surveillance:
Very much possible! I microchip installation can be made mandatory for all citizens of small countries which can be connected to the government server to track every single move of that citizen. But achieving such kind of technical things for mass, will require huge money and time for densely populated countries like India or China. Small and wealthy countries like Switzerland or Liechtenstein can afford such things.

2. About the photography:
CC camera and hidden camera everywhere! Countries have already started implementing such things on every street possible in a phased manned. It won't take long before majority of the areas are covered. But again, it's a very very very costly affair when it comes to implementing for mass.

3. The emergency pudding:
Linked with the first one. But it is a very interesting read. achievable at high cost!

4. The soap police:
It talks about forceful compliance of laws through the technical arrangements mentioned above. Again achievable! 

These things may sound like a distant dream right at this moment but with the technical achievements world is making everyday, it may not sound like a distant dream 5 years down the line. While we won't see anything immediately. But there is a possibility that we will see such things happening in near future.

But the entire article is a very interesting read, I must say!

[davide72]

I don't understand why bitcoin should have advantages from possible surveillance in the world. Those who control the internet in the world could also control bitcoins in the future which is why Russia is creating a different protocol that allows the various computers to connect to the network.