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April 01, 2020, 02:24:32 AM
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The development of industry in the United States changed society the agrarian United States became an industrialist. The consumeristic lifestyle becomes a new pattern. Initially, production was adjusted to the number of requests, but over time the entrepreneurs produced more goods. So to attract buyers, producers provide credit to buyers.

On "the roaring twenties" the economy of the United States developed abnormally rapidly, which eventually triggered speculation in the stock market. The majority of people invest in stocks with a "buying on margin" credit system. So the speculators by owning 10% they can own shares, the rest speculators borrow from brokers (brokers) or banks. Speculative demand for stocks is what plays a major role in increasing prices so bonds rise.

Although not a major factor in depression, this activity makes depression more intense. The billions of dollars that should have been used to develop production and pay wages were diverted to the stock market. The demand for bonds increases and then encourages dishonest practices. When stock prices fall, the demand for money from investors increases. Whereas banks cannot fulfill all these requests, eventually there is credit pressure.

Capitalists regulate financial turmoil by regulating the supply of money at irrational levels. the collapse of the financial sector and the relatively high debt bondage that changed the behavior of the private sector and triggered their efforts to improve their financial balance sheets. America cannot do anything because historically they owed the FED.

After World War I, the classical gold standard had been destroyed and was impossible to recover, because too much paper money had been issued by the US and European countries.  In theory, the world went to a 'gold exchange standard,' where both dollars and pounds, in addition to gold, could serve as reserves.  Also, individual savers were only able to redeem paper money for gold if they were converting a lot of money.  In reality, dollars had begun to replace gold as the foundation of the system.  The rise of paper money became the core driver of the bubbles of the Roaring 20s.

Yes, trading stocks on margin loans did exacerbate financial instability, but isn't that how it always works in the modern world?  The loans issued to the public to buy stocks (or to buy products) were a financial asset, and was 'new wealth' created out of thin air, as long as the (high) estimation of the borrower's creditworthiness held.  The bank and the system had every incentive to make sure this was the case, and that the stock market bubble would continue.  This is just a different type of asset from today's corporate bonds issued to buy back stocks and enrich the executives.  There's no basic difference.  (Those same corporate bonds, BTW, have just been found to require a Fed bailout.)

Ultimately, the nature of the system is always that the elites issue assets and use state power to prop up their value, in order to benefit from blowing a bubble.  When the bubble must burst, it's the public who will bear the brunt of economic hardship.

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April 01, 2020, 11:20:00 AM
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During a panic, people lose a lot ... Not only materially. They lose their common sense.
I am deeply convinced that during world and global crises there are a huge number of people who become truly rich and do revolutionary things, which they then use all over the world. Do not panic friends! We can do little, but the last thing we must do is panic.
It's a domino effect why markets are losing money. It's not just about panic but it's a good strategy to pull out. Imagine all of the investors going to think with this crisis, They are gonna think that because of the crisis, lot of people are gonna pull out there money. That's what's happening right now why markets are dumping and losing money, people are pulling out their investment thinking that the other's will gonna do that too. Honestly, it's a good strategy so you will not be a bag holder and lose money. It's not panic, it's a strategy.

As your country is affected by the virus, expect that your economy will also be affected and can cause crash. As well as the use of crypto is also affected because of many factors that are also related to the market. The stock market is really affected because business will be closed that results to another downfall in its investment. Pulling investment is one of the possible solution that you can think of so that losing money will not happen to you and also you can hold you money and use it for more necessary things. Economic problems will really occur during times like this, panic brought a lot of failure and damage to the market because they are too anxious about their money, which is not the right thing to handle this financial oppositions.
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April 01, 2020, 02:50:06 PM
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During a panic, people lose a lot ... Not only materially. They lose their common sense.
I am deeply convinced that during world and global crises there are a huge number of people who become truly rich and do revolutionary things, which they then use all over the world. Do not panic friends! We can do little, but the last thing we must do is panic.
It's a domino effect why markets are losing money. It's not just about panic but it's a good strategy to pull out. Imagine all of the investors going to think with this crisis, They are gonna think that because of the crisis, lot of people are gonna pull out there money. That's what's happening right now why markets are dumping and losing money, people are pulling out their investment thinking that the other's will gonna do that too. Honestly, it's a good strategy so you will not be a bag holder and lose money. It's not panic, it's a strategy.

As your country is affected by the virus, expect that your economy will also be affected and can cause crash. As well as the use of crypto is also affected because of many factors that are also related to the market. The stock market is really affected because business will be closed that results to another downfall in its investment. Pulling investment is one of the possible solution that you can think of so that losing money will not happen to you and also you can hold you money and use it for more necessary things. Economic problems will really occur during times like this, panic brought a lot of failure and damage to the market because they are too anxious about their money, which is not the right thing to handle this financial oppositions.

Yes, this is true. The economy is possible to collapse because of the financial crisis that is happening in every country that are affected of the virus. Economic recession also possible to happen because like what you guys said, the people might pull their stocks or investments in different businesses which may result to sudden drop of it. If everyone has this kind of mindset probably a lot of businesses would stop even after the quarantine because of the panic of people. If this is gonna happen the government should have plan for this, financial crisis is indeed visible in our country especially on the poor people. Unfortunately, people would be skeptical about the situation that is happening now cause no one knows what really gonna happen in the next few months. I am certain that once this economy fail a lot of people would protest and panic more.
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April 01, 2020, 03:36:33 PM
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During a panic, people lose a lot ... Not only materially. They lose their common sense.
I am deeply convinced that during world and global crises there are a huge number of people who become truly rich and do revolutionary things, which they then use all over the world. Do not panic friends! We can do little, but the last thing we must do is panic.
It's a domino effect why markets are losing money. It's not just about panic but it's a good strategy to pull out. Imagine all of the investors going to think with this crisis, They are gonna think that because of the crisis, lot of people are gonna pull out there money. That's what's happening right now why markets are dumping and losing money, people are pulling out their investment thinking that the other's will gonna do that too. Honestly, it's a good strategy so you will not be a bag holder and lose money. It's not panic, it's a strategy.

As your country is affected by the virus, expect that your economy will also be affected and can cause crash. As well as the use of crypto is also affected because of many factors that are also related to the market. The stock market is really affected because business will be closed that results to another downfall in its investment. Pulling investment is one of the possible solution that you can think of so that losing money will not happen to you and also you can hold you money and use it for more necessary things. Economic problems will really occur during times like this, panic brought a lot of failure and damage to the market because they are too anxious about their money, which is not the right thing to handle this financial oppositions.

Yes, this is true. The economy is possible to collapse because of the financial crisis that is happening in every country that are affected of the virus. Economic recession also possible to happen because like what you guys said, the people might pull their stocks or investments in different businesses which may result to sudden drop of it. If everyone has this kind of mindset probably a lot of businesses would stop even after the quarantine because of the panic of people. If this is gonna happen the government should have plan for this, financial crisis is indeed visible in our country especially on the poor people. Unfortunately, people would be skeptical about the situation that is happening now cause no one knows what really gonna happen in the next few months. I am certain that once this economy fail a lot of people would protest and panic more.


At this time we are still facing the financial crisis and because of the virus and this is not quite good because from the previous weeks the stock market and also the cryptocurrency fall down again and many people selling their coins and buy a lot of things they need for survival and this is not good to the economy but still we cannot do something because there are no still cure in the virus and we are looking forward on it to make it back to normal again and brings up the market of the economy one of the good things we need to do is to have some contribution to the market and still circulating the process.

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April 01, 2020, 05:36:45 PM
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It "will" stop, but not before it hurts everything way too much. From inflation to unemployment to many other stuff the world economy will be in big shambles. Is there a way to get out of this? Sure governments will find a way to pump up more cash and help out the companies in need and basically recover from this in long term but it will not be anytime soon, it will take years and years of building back up before we can reach where we were and actually go above. That is why I am saying it "will" and not it will, because it will pass but at what cost?

For example 2008 passed, we are right now doing better in stock market than what happened in 2008, we are higher than 2007 previously before it went down as well, but it took is almost a decade to reach there.

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