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April 11, 2020, 10:48:10 PM
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Basically, it is not suitable to compare bitcoin with stocks because it is likely to be difficult for stocks to reach ATH but not for Bitcoin. Look at the effects that can pump bitcoin in an instant while stocks require a long period of time for a significant increase, there are many differences between the two.
Right. We must remember that all investment products such as gold, stocks, cryptos, etc. will not continue to rise. There are times when corrections and we must take the right steps with the calculated strategy. Panicking is not good, so make sure we prepare plan B. There are times when locking your profit it's a good thing.

Trends and patterns in cryptocurrency are always changing, as we know that data shows that there is always a significant increase after halving. New ATHs are always formed, but many experts predict that it is difficult for this period, we know the world is in crisis due to the COVID 19 pandemic. Even if ATH is not achieved I think the crypto market will still exist and become a profitable alternative for investment. But who knows? All this is only speculation and the crypto market is always full of surprises. We look forward to it.


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April 11, 2020, 11:10:41 PM
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The fundamentals are different. Bitcoin has limited supply and many more use cases then stock index. Also, Bitcoin is main cryptocurrency while Japanese stock index is just one of many so you can compare it to some altcoin if you must.
I guess you are right, I agree with your explanation because bitcoin is a unique asset, it's crypto that is different from other assets in the market, that's why we recover from the fall as we are not correlated with the stock market.

also in terms of volatility, bitcoin is so volatile compared to other assets, and since the supply is just limited, it's always possible for this asset to reach its ATH.

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April 12, 2020, 04:55:21 AM
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The fundamentals are different. Bitcoin has limited supply and many more use cases then stock index. Also, Bitcoin is main cryptocurrency while Japanese stock index is just one of many so you can compare it to some altcoin if you must.
I guess you are right, I agree with your explanation because bitcoin is a unique asset, it's crypto that is different from other assets in the market, that's why we recover from the fall as we are not correlated with the stock market.

also in terms of volatility, bitcoin is so volatile compared to other assets, and since the supply is just limited, it's always possible for this asset to reach its ATH.
The limited supply concept will surely make a new all time high over sometimes. It's just a basic law of supply and demand, as time passes by, the demand for bitcoin will grow as new people are going to discover it and new people are going to invest in bitcoin then, the supply will be limited so that, the bitcoin price is going to go up! It's just time, Bitcoin price in long term basis will surely reach the moon!

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April 13, 2020, 09:16:45 AM
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There are only two cause if the market price of the bitcoin will not reaches its all time high because it is a sign for another declined market and cause of lowering the market price of the bitcoin but sometimes it the market price of the bitcoin does not reached this on the same day it happens to have a huge bullish market but we cannot tell to everyone what are the things will happens bedside the market is volatile and it is more easy to predict but we cannot give any concrete answer and calculations for the next market movement.

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April 13, 2020, 05:40:34 PM
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As long as BTC continues to exist, it is fine if it never reaches a new all-time high,

Its users will still continue to use it and benefit from using it. Also, as long as we continue to use bitcoin, the possibility of it to reach a new all-time high is still there, what we just need is to wait for the right time for it to recover.

Exactly. It doesn't matter whenever prices go up or down, as Bitcoin was created to be independent from the world's monetary system. What matters here is usability above anything else. As long as Bitcoin is a reliable cryptocurrency for frictionless payments in a decentralized manner, there's nothing to worry about. The Bitcoin network is still strong after all these years with ample support from average individuals and developers alike. It never stops, operating 24/7 without fear of censorship or fraud. Giving Bitcoin a price in terms of Fiat, will bring more speculation than anything else. Imagine how different things would've been if everyone started using Bitcoin directly for daily payments without having to convert it to Fiat. It would certainly contribute towards the crypto economy as we know it.

Hopefully, the upcoming halving event on the Bitcoin blockchain will increase demand for the cryptocurrency across the market. Don't fret if nothing happens with Bitcoin's price in the long run, since it does its job well as a censorship-resistant cryptocurrency no single entity can take control of. With Bitcoin, you and only you have control of your money. This freedom is what matters above anything else. I'd expect Bitcoin to grow in development and innovation over time, instead of its price going all the way to the moon. Just my thoughts Grin

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April 13, 2020, 08:05:08 PM
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That Nikkei had such growth doesn’t mean that Bitcoin is going to be the same, and moreover they are both two different things, this one is a stock while Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency. Though I am not trying to say there will be another all time high in Bitcoin, I can’t predict the future , I know nothing about it.

I am always okay with whatever I’m seeing,except a very high loss. I don’t worry much about the price of bitcoin, and if the price should become stable tomorrow, I wouldn’t worry about it, I will be okay with it. Though I might not be happy in the sense that it will not longer serve for an investment purpose, but I will still adapt to it. Let’s wait from now till next year ends and we will see what happens. If you check the last time we had a halving, the price went up the next year (from 2016 to 2017).

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April 13, 2020, 11:48:07 PM
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ATH is not out from my sight but the problem is we got nothing to expect to come out this time of crisis, of course, we can't disclose its possibility but the chances is low. That is why I shouldn't have to think about it, in fact, I'm satisfied already with what the market has shown to us. Even though we are still low, I believe that traders are still making gains at this time.

In the first place, We are not here just only because of ATH but we are here because we also want to know more about crypto, making trades, and make money from it. We can't deny that more people come to crypto during the bullish but they'll go once bullish is over.



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April 14, 2020, 04:36:37 PM
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ATH is not out from my sight but the problem is we got nothing to expect to come out this time of crisis, of course, we can't disclose its possibility but the chances is low. That is why I shouldn't have to think about it, in fact, I'm satisfied already with what the market has shown to us. Even though we are still low, I believe that traders are still making gains at this time.
Maybe we are getting another all time high this year or maybe not at all. Halving might bring a good run for cryptocurrencies or might not. Even when things are looking good we cannot just assume that we are going into another all time high, I mean it's not the same scene anymore with cryptocurrencies it is more of like a competition among the riches and they are the ones who are deciding when the market could go bullish.
Now seems like they are giving us time to build a price for them, it's interesting how the price is not increasing as the halving coming near.

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April 14, 2020, 04:46:00 PM
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I don't understand why people relate BTC to S&P500, Nikkei and other major markets? You don't see a simple yet an extremely big difference here that these markets have got an extremely big marketcap attached to their names whereas BTC still has a lot more to achieve in the near time, so why even bother comparing these markets to a completely new asset class that is not even mass-adopted as of yet whereas these names are so famous that people blindly trust and trade on them?

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April 15, 2020, 03:38:05 AM
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if it reaches  ATH i will sell my btc because i was going to sell it when it was 10k and then it started going down
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What if BTC never reaches all time high?

If ever that BTC will never reach an all-time high, there are other times that it might reach a new one. But you know, I don't think that it will happen, as we all know, over the past years, bitcoin continues to increase its price. There are ups and downs, but it is certain that its price movement is going up.

Despite the dumps, the possibility of Bitcoin to reach ATH is always there.

We don't need to wait for it really since we all know how volatile it is and we might end up frustrated as sudden dumps are happening lately. It is not that big of a dump but still, there are some people that worry every time that happens. For sure, it will reach a new ATH but I am not expecting it to be that fast since there are still those things that can still, in some way, affect the price these days.
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April 15, 2020, 04:16:22 AM
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What if BTC never reaches all time high?

If it won't get again to 20k, no biggie, Bitcoin is still great as it is, with or without the price speculation.
But I believe it will. Its scarcity ensures that. Patience...



Yeah right there's no big deal for that since imagine how big the calamity happening right now and provably all people are in recovering phase since most of the people are gaining back their normal life together with their crypto activity so even if bitcoin didn't reach for ATH still this is the top coin on the space and the earning potential never stops there.

For me, I think if bitcoin never reaches the all time high, mass adoption wouldn't be developed and the reason why people are investing in bitcoin is because they saw that bitcoin can change people's lives. Its price is volatile in the market it goes down and it goes up and that's what makes bitcoin very hard to manipulate. The price is really unpredictable and it takes a great prediction and strategy for you to prevent having huge losses, but it still depends on how you can recover from that losses. Overall, bitcoin is really a good store of value, it can bring you a huge amount of profit when its price is in its peak. You're so lucky if you experienced the all time high of bitcoin as it is like a lucky day for all of us who uses it.

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April 15, 2020, 08:06:54 AM
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For me, I think if bitcoin never reaches the all time high, mass adoption wouldn't be developed and the reason why people are investing in bitcoin is because they saw that bitcoin can change people's lives.

So you mean that the only reason for Bitcoin adoption is speculation? Aren't you a bit harsh?
One great thing Bitcoin can bring is to avoid the need to exchange money in all the local currencies and pay with Bitcoin.
Another great thing is money transfer way faster than any banks would ever do.
Also don't forget its main feature: set you free from centralized and politically manipulated fiat currency.
All of these mean nothing to you?!


Its price is volatile in the market it goes down and it goes up and that's what makes bitcoin very hard to manipulate.

Don't you think that this up and down can be the result of some manipulations and can make some traders very rich?


The price is really unpredictable and it takes a great prediction and strategy for you to prevent having huge losses, but it still depends on how you can recover from that losses.

It's hard to predict, but professional traders may do it. Trading is not for everybody and many treat is like lottery.


Overall, bitcoin is really a good store of value, it can bring you a huge amount of profit when its price is in its peak. You're so lucky if you experienced the all time high of bitcoin as it is like a lucky day for all of us who uses it.

Many bought at peak. I would not call them lucky. And Bitcoin as store of value is quite a debate which is affected a lot by its huge volatility.



All in all, I think that you should read more. Many of the things you wrote are incorrect.

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I am among those who invest in bitcoin for the long term, and I believe bitcoin will definitely touch the price of all time high.
Indeed I also realize that bitcoin for this year will touch ATH prices very little, but I am sure 1-2 years from now bitcoin will
touch the price of ATH. So from now on I try to collect bitcoin, because right now I think the price of bitcoin is very cheap.

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These are 2 completely different things compared to each other, and another crazy theory. Nevertheless stocks are very different with cryptocurrency. Bitcoin has still a long way to go and there are still a lot of manipulation will happen, no one know whether it hits another All time high or not, and this theory is irrelevant with how Bitcoin was being used by the investors today.
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Unfortunately I do not understand why people are always worried about Bitcoins reaching an all time high , yes investment is a problem , people who would have invested in Bitcoins in 2017 and during the high time , they would be loosing a lot of money but at the same time it would make Bitcoins , less volatile , also people would start coming up to the fact that Bitcoins is not leaving the economy and investors will pool in after a while because I do think that it is the most successful Cryptocurrency. In respect of everything 💯 .
It would do nothing , we will still be where we are , trading volumes might decrease but at the same time long term benefits are not few.

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I don't understand why people relate BTC to S&P500, Nikkei and other major markets? You don't see a simple yet an extremely big difference here that these markets have got an extremely big marketcap attached to their names whereas BTC still has a lot more to achieve in the near time, so why even bother comparing these markets to a completely new asset class that is not even mass-adopted as of yet whereas these names are so famous that people blindly trust and trade on them?

Most people still don't understand the purpose of crypto's creation or how it truly works. They're only in it for the money, instead of the technology. That's why we see many of them comparing Bitcoin to stocks, as if it were an asset controlled or issued by a company or central authority. Comparing Bitcoin vs stocks is like comparing apples vs oranges. As far as I know, the crypto market is much more volatile than the regular stock market since it's still small. It's only been 11 years since the inception of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology, which means that the market still needs some time to mature. Liquidity is needed in order to grow the crypto market to new heights. Crypto is only a very small fraction of the global economy, while stocks have trillions of dollars invested on them. I guess that the small crypto market greatly contributes to wild fluctuations in price over time.

Until now, Bitcoin is purely speculative than anything else. Expect to see wild price changes in a blink of an eye, due to "market immaturity". The "weak hands" will continue to sell Bitcoin as long as prices are on a downfall, while the "strong hands" will buy and "hodl" the coin no matter what. Given that Bitcoin will experience a reduction in block rewards every 4 years, it's expected that it'll reach a new All-time-high in price over time. It's very unlikely for a scarce asset/commodity to maintain its price or even become less valuable in the long term. Take a good look at Gold, and see for yourself. As long as you believe in Bitcoin itself (rather than filling your pockets with money), anything is possible. We need more believers in crypto/Blockchain tech, than profiteers or speculators in order to bring true value to the crypto market. Just my thoughts Grin

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April 17, 2020, 10:20:07 AM
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This is quite possible. And the price will continue to vary in the numbers that we see now. So I don't have high hopes for big figures.

Everything is possible in crypto space though, but lossing your hopes for big figures maybe temporary at the moment. Everyone knows what Bitcoin is capable of, this figure ain't last forever. It could go worse or it could make a run breaking a new ATH.
Bitcoin, may miss a bull run this year, but will definitely hit another ATH soon. No one actually knows when, but holding long term will guarantee a good profit.

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What? Bitcoin is decentralized and stock is centralized, so, don't think the two should be compared to another because they're different entity from their creation to their community. Their prices with definitely  e different and their achievement will be different too. Although, base on what have been happening in the market, there is a possibility of the price of Bitcoin to soar even though we don't see another all time high, hope without whales manipulations we.might be heading to $10k before the halving and after the halving targeting another high again.

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The value of Bitcoin isn't determined by its price that is proved from the last two years. You have observed the huge flactuations but still it is number one crypto and its value is determined by its utilty. If BTC can't reach its high peak in the next few years, we won't mind it as we are not here for BTC price.

Well, if you are not I am. Despite the fact that I also want to use bitcoin as a payment method every day, I also wanted to earn a profit out of trading and holding them in a time period. If the price did not reach another ATH, that is fine as there would come a time that the price will be reaching that and might exceed what we are expecting.

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