Italy data: COVID-19 no more virulent than the flu

[Naida_BR]

Italy has reported already 15,000 deaths from Coronavirus.
Personally, I believe that they are going to hit 20,000 at least, till the end of this situation. It is very sad to read about such numbers. It is like Italy is on an official war right now...

[BADecker]

Italy deaths down this year, from 2017 flu.     

[onemd]

67,928 deaths

[BADecker]

67,928 deaths

^^^ If true, from other causes that would have happened anyway.

[BayAreaCoins]

67,928 deaths

^^^ If true, from other causes that would have happened anyway.

Heart attack... ehhh looks COVID19ey to me!  Stage 4 cancer and 91..... def COVID19!  

They clearly need moar money for moar cases! Die, DIEEEEEEEEEEE.  More children "milestones" would really make "us" take this seriously.

 

[BADecker]

67,928 deaths

^^^ If true, from other causes that would have happened anyway.

Heart attack... ehhh looks COVID19ey to me!  Stage 4 cancer and 91..... def COVID19!  

They clearly need moar money for moar cases! Die, DIEEEEEEEEEEE.  More children "milestones" would really make "us" take this seriously.

 

Nice words... from both of us, btw. Now let's get it to court with professional debaters, and strict conditions, to see what is true and what is hearsay.

[onemd]

67,928 deaths

^^^ If true, from other causes that would have happened anyway.

Heart attack... ehhh looks COVID19ey to me!  Stage 4 cancer and 91..... def COVID19! 

They clearly need moar money for moar cases! Die, DIEEEEEEEEEEE.  More children "milestones" would really make "us" take this seriously.

 

Nice words... from both of us, btw. Now let's get it to court with professional debaters, and strict conditions, to see what is true and what is hearsay.

You both can argue into your face turns blue, and into kingdom's come. Argue yourselves strapped onto a rocket, and argue yourselves all the way to the moon 

[BADecker]

67,928 deaths

^^^ If true, from other causes that would have happened anyway.

Heart attack... ehhh looks COVID19ey to me!  Stage 4 cancer and 91..... def COVID19! 

They clearly need moar money for moar cases! Die, DIEEEEEEEEEEE.  More children "milestones" would really make "us" take this seriously.

 

Nice words... from both of us, btw. Now let's get it to court with professional debaters, and strict conditions, to see what is true and what is hearsay.

You both can argue into your face turns blue, and into kingdom's come. Argue yourselves strapped onto a rocket, and argue yourselves all the way to the moon 

https://i.imgur.com/a3z0fx9.png

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

[onemd]

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

73,731

But then again, you can't prove anything. Your brain is just neuron impulses that fire as a feedback. For all you know, this could be the matrix, a computer simulation, brain in vat, your brain inside a giant animal, that evolved by evolution, to fire the precise electrical impulse, everything you think you know could just be one elaborate illusion.

But yes. On one part, the numbers may be underreported by many countries. Reports that the death Is actually around 65,000 to 90,000 in Italy. And china is a massive coverup potentially. Viruses can mutate.
But the initial tests on people do test out as covid-19. So very likely non-tested is also covid-19. 

[m1sterkiddman]

it's sad

[BADecker]

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

73,731

But then again, you can't prove anything. Your brain is just neuron impulses that fire as a feedback. For all you know, this could be the matrix, a computer simulation, brain in vat, your brain inside a giant animal, that evolved by evolution, to fire the precise electrical impulse, everything you think you know could just be one elaborate illusion.

But yes. On one part, the numbers may be underreported by many countries. Reports that the death Is actually around 65,000 to 90,000 in Italy. And china is a massive coverup potentially. Viruses can mutate.
But the initial tests on people do test out as covid-19. So very likely non-tested is also covid-19.  

However, if you use courtroom techniques, you can prove things in a relative way. So, your post proves you would rather enhance a hoax than get to the truth.

[rigden]

In any case, it makes no sense to panic. Because it doesn’t help the situation. However, as far as I know, this is not just a virus (like the flu), but a virus in conjunction with the Synthia bacterium, which was created to destroy the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico about 10 years ago. This bacterium, by eating carbon (destroying any organic matter), acts on humans in the same way as coronavirus. There is information that a semi-dead fish that died from Synthia was accidentally (or not accidentally) delivered to China. People ate it and this virus appeared. I may be wrong in the details, but I think that it was something like this. And, perhaps, you will not find information about this on the english-speaking Internet, since this information is intentionally hushed up. Our body copes with coronavirus easily (like with the flu), but with Covid 19 (virus + bacterium), our body is more difficult to cope with. But there is a solution - baking soda. By alkalizing the body, you allow immunity to defeat the virus.

[Renampun]

COVID 19 is not more virulent than the flu but rather kills and makes more mass panic than the flu...
in the problem of healing, curing people with flu is very easy because flu medicines are spread everywhere but COVID 19 is not and until now the drug has not been found.

[onemd]

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

73,731

Doesn't anyone understand exponential growth at all?
I mean its like 82,126 deaths now, common...

[onemd]

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

73,731

Doesn't anyone understand exponential growth at all?
I mean its like 82,126 deaths now, common...

88,219 deaths

[BADecker]

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

73,731

Doesn't anyone understand exponential growth at all?
I mean its like 82,126 deaths now, common...

88,219 deaths

But only 8,213 of them coming from CV. The rest coming from all kinds of other diseases, and would have happened anyway.

[yanket]

Arguing wasn't the plan. The plan was a question.

Since anybody can make up charts, where is the proof that this one is right? Where is the proof that the medical actually knows how to determine in massive numbers of people that the virus checking that they did, turned up Covid-19? Maybe what they found was something that hundreds of viruses show, and they don't really have any way of knowing which virus of the hundreds they are viewing.

The point isn't to speculate. Neither is it to believe because you feel right about it.

The point is proof. Do you have it, the proof?

73,731

Doesn't anyone understand exponential growth at all?
I mean its like 82,126 deaths now, common...

88,219 deaths

But only 8,213 of them coming from CV. The rest coming from all kinds of other diseases, and would have happened anyway.

We are all obligated to pray

[BayAreaCoins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGC5sGdz4kg

[Negotiation]

Italy's Corona Virus Death Toll is high they are the most affected by the virus and they are the most affected in Italy after China About 1,19,827 people have been reported in Italy However many have recovered. Now that Italy has come under a lot of control the coronary virus has almost lost its numbers Has opened all lockdowns in their country.

[BADecker]

COVID-19 no more virulent than the flu.


This is not known. Why not? Because they haven't been able to separate Covid-19 testing from simple flu testing. So, they don't know if the more virulent ones are the flu, or if they are CV. Could be either, since the testing is so mixed up.

However, even if the testing were not mixed up, Italians are dying from all kinds of things besides the flu or CV. And they can't even tell the difference between flu/CV or something else.