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5 Days ago I found some participant on [CFNP]CoinDragon Mini Signature Campaign is attempting to cheat on the old campaign, so I create a thread here Bounty Cheater - 2 Hero, 3 Senior and 3 Full Member (Still active) . And now I found @xvids as Campaign manager on coindragon is attempting to cheat on the old campaign too with his alt @bhabygrim (currently run coinsaga campaign) Account ConnectedUser: xvids Postion to Apply: Jr. member Posts Start: 49 Address: 3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF
Archived@xvids using same address on other bounties ArchivedUser: bhabygrim Postion to Apply: Full Member Posts Start: 183 Address: 3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF
Archived@bhabygrim using same address on other bounties ArchivedI think it's nonsense to said @xvids is copying @bhabygrim address without @bhabygrim knowing it or vice versa, since both of @xvids and @bhabygrim is using that's an address twicely on different campaign and different times. Related Address3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF Archived Luckydice Campaign![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F6Hymfbq%2FScreenshot-357.png&t=665&c=f9zLB7TH3qARhw) Archived David Chaum'XX Campaign
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April 03, 2020, 06:55:48 AM |
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You "Quote from: xvids on February 16, 2017, 07:29:00 PM" doesn't have a corresponding URL - can you fix up you OP to reflect the link your quote is referring to please?
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April 03, 2020, 07:06:33 AM |
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You "Quote from: xvids on February 16, 2017, 07:29:00 PM" doesn't have a corresponding URL - can you fix up you OP to reflect the link your quote is referring to please? Yeah there is no url to reffer since the thread was locked, I just edit it to make that's quote is similar like quoting user's post You can click "archived" on below that's quote, it's reffering to the thread where he is applying
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April 03, 2020, 12:00:02 PM |
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Seems like confirmed alts from the proofs you have provided but I don't understand why are they dealing here with each other here in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216604.0 . Its not like they have left any trust rating to each other and its quite recent as well. Possibly account sold? Whatever, will leave rating and will wait for explanation.
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April 03, 2020, 02:37:03 PM |
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Interesting thing is both of account running campaign currently and both platform name almost similar (coindragon & coinsaga). There is more chance of abuse when managers abused campaign previously. Archived links not working to me, so here is Archived links. 1. Luckydice Archived 2. David Chaum'XX Campaign ArchivedTagged for now, will reconsider feedback if they could provide reasonable excuses.
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April 03, 2020, 03:00:57 PM Last edit: April 03, 2020, 03:36:55 PM by xvids |
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Seems like confirmed alts from the proofs you have provided but I don't understand why are they dealing here with each other here in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216604.0 . Its not like they have left any trust rating to each other and its quite recent as well. Possibly account sold? Whatever, will leave rating and will wait for explanation. I know the person who created Bhabygrim account and I did pilot it for sometime back in 2017 because he was busy at work and he was already planning to quit back then. I did make a transaction with the account but I don't know if it is still the same owner because the last time that we talk he was going to work abroad. I was still new at the forum at that time and didn't know that it is against the rules. I only had one alt-account but soon as I found out that it is against the forum I didn't use it again Kimbob as of now I don'thave any connection between bhabygrim. P.S The (3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF) was my old BTC Address that is why I use it everytime I pilot Bhabygrim's account.
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April 03, 2020, 04:33:16 PM |
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Seems like confirmed alts from the proofs you have provided but I don't understand why are they dealing here with each other here in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216604.0 . Its not like they have left any trust rating to each other and its quite recent as well. Possibly account sold? Whatever, will leave rating and will wait for explanation. I know the person who created Bhabygrim account and I did pilot it for sometime back in 2017 because he was busy at work and he was already planning to quit back then.I did make a transaction with the account but I don't know if it is still the same owner because the last time that we talk he was going to work abroad. I was still new at the forum at that time and didn't know that it is against the rules.I only had one alt-account but soon as I found out that it is against the forum I didn't use it again Kimbob as of now I don'thave any connection between bhabygrim. P.S The (3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF) was my old BTC Address that is why I use it everytime I pilot Bhabygrim's account.The proof is sufficient to prove the connection between the two accounts, in addition, it also shows that you are cheating in two other campaigns. The reason you gave is so bad ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) it just shows your irresponsibility ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is better to say that it is the account of your family members, siblings, etc. Although it will not help you get rid of this accusation ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I also suspect that this user is cheating with multiple accounts in the campaign he is managing. For someone who is willing to cheat in someone else's campaign, he may cheat more when he has more power.
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April 03, 2020, 05:44:53 PM |
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The proof is sufficient to prove the connection between the two accounts, in addition, it also shows that you are cheating in two other campaigns. The reason you gave is so bad ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) it just shows your irresponsibility ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is better to say that it is the account of your family members, siblings, etc. Although it will not help you get rid of this accusation ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I also suspect that this user is cheating with multiple accounts in the campaign he is managing. For someone who is willing to cheat in someone else's campaign, he may cheat more when he has more power. I have given my statement and I've only done it because I was newbie at that time and didn't know that it was against the rules that's why I also use my old BTC address to his account everytime I would pilot his account.
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April 04, 2020, 01:32:31 AM |
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On behalf of Bhabygrim I don't really know how to defend this since this account was only sold to me by my cousin on late 2018. I don't know who is xvids and I know that this is hard to believe, The only proof that I could give you is the campaignthat I had been participating. Which I have been participating for 2 weeks. #ProofOfAuth Join Campaign: Signature Rank: Sr.Member Merit:257 Current amount of Posts (Including this one):1669 BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=981553;BitcoinTalk Username: Bhabygrim Telegram Username: @Bhabygrim CoinSaga Username: To be followed once the site is fixed. Bitcoin address: 3R25vLrcEAuLawPMesFYS75tQTv7E6nWfR Which I joined recently if I was the owner or connected to xvids why would I continue to work for insure if I have my own campaign which have a higher pay rate and direct to my account?
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April 04, 2020, 04:45:35 AM |
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Piloting account and sold account in 2018 are a very bad excuses here and puts in you a worst situation here. There is piloting the account stuff which I don't buy plus on other hand bhabygrim will be negg'ed for being sold recently.
I don't think there is a scope of change in situation now. I will stay with my feedback perhaps a little bit change in comment later.
Just a quick question to both of you:
1) @xvids What was the timeline you were piloting? 2) @bhabygrim When was the account sold exactly in 2018?
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April 04, 2020, 05:45:23 AM |
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I have given my statement and I've only done it because I was newbie at that time and didn't know that it was against the rules that's why I also use my old BTC address to his account everytime I would pilot his account.
LoL, what is the meaning of pilot his account? You are using someone else's account, both of you have been participating in campaigns recently (definitely you understand the rules of the forum at this time - 20/1/2020 & 30/1/2020). You are cheating deliberately in campaigns, still a bad excuse for you See what I find here ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEENIlmB.png&t=665&c=1lFl8gaVX_a-BA) You have 30 merit for a post that's not really good. But more importantly, the user @hui was last active on November 1, 2018, but he was on that topic once in mid-March, and the next time in early April to send merit to you. What's this connection? How do you explain this merit abuse? Both of you are not regular sender/receiver of merit, therefor it is abusive.
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April 04, 2020, 08:08:54 AM |
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Piloting account and sold account in 2018 are a very bad excuses here and puts in you a worst situation here. There is piloting the account stuff which I don't buy plus on other hand bhabygrim will be negg'ed for being sold recently.
I don't think there is a scope of change in situation now. I will stay with my feedback perhaps a little bit change in comment later.
Just a quick question to both of you:
1) @xvids What was the timeline you were piloting? 2) @bhabygrim When was the account sold exactly in 2018?
I would pilot the account if it would be accepted but if not I would post 1 per day to keep it active it was only in 2017 I couldn't remember the I think it only last until November of 2017. As I've said I was newbie at that time and used my old BTC wallet so the reward would be directly at my wallet since I was the one working on it. LoL, what is the meaning of pilot his account? You are using someone else's account, both of you have been participating in campaigns recently (definitely you understand the rules of the forum at this time - 20/1/2020 & 30/1/2020). You are cheating deliberately in campaigns, still a bad excuse for you LOL are you blind I have said it already I was newbie could you look at what year it was and what date you have given and I already sent you the alt-account that I have and stated that when I found out that it was against the forum I didn't used it anymore. See what I find here ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEENIlmB.png&t=665&c=1lFl8gaVX_a-BA) You have 30 merit for a post that's not really good. But more importantly, the user @hui was last active on November 1, 2018, but he was on that topic once in mid-March, and the next time in early April to send merit to you. What's this connection? How do you explain this merit abuse? Both of you are not regular sender/receiver of merit, therefor it is abusive. LOL how could I sent merits when I don't even have sMerit, And you could ask Hui about the merit that has been sent to me I did sent a DM when I saw the merit because I know that it could be a problem ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F1qJXCX4%2FScreenshot-20200404-160208.png&t=665&c=Z1dwfOx13dSI0g) . I am not an idiot to ask or beg for 30 merit I am contented with the merit that I have.
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April 04, 2020, 02:15:29 PM |
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Can we please stop the avoiding responsibility game and just admit you have done what the evidence proves you have done? It saves everybody time.
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April 05, 2020, 02:15:12 AM |
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Can we please stop the avoiding responsibility game and just admit you have done what the evidence proves you have done? It saves everybody time.
Agree it's hard to defend something like that when the evidence is very clear if you insist defending, people will tagged you as a liar and besides your alibi are so weak against old members.
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April 06, 2020, 07:47:33 AM |
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bhabygrim will be negg'ed for being sold recently.
I don't think there is a scope of change in situation now. I will stay with my feedback perhaps a little bit change in comment later.
Just a quick question to both of you:
1) @xvids What was the timeline you were piloting? 2) @bhabygrim When was the account sold exactly in 2018?
So what's the point even if I give you all the details and answer all of the question the trust rating on this account would still be negative. So I don't see any point on explaining anymore and this will be my last participation on campaign since I wouldn't be able to join any campaign in the future.
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April 06, 2020, 08:16:31 AM |
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So what's the point even if I give you all the details and answer all of the question the trust rating on this account would still be negative. So I don't see any point on explaining anymore and this will be my last participation on campaign since I wouldn't be able to join any campaign in the future.
I sure hope that this is the case for both accounts. There are plenty of people that deserve rewards for their honesty and contributions, but sadly many abuse and steal their shares with their abuse.
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April 06, 2020, 09:57:53 AM |
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So what's the point even if I give you all the details and answer all of the question the trust rating on this account would still be negative. So I don't see any point on explaining anymore and this will be my last participation on campaign since I wouldn't be able to join any campaign in the future.
I was actually thinking of looking at case again and reconsider my feedback and so I asked those questions to look the case again myself. But now that I found that you lying about account being sold, I think there is a good possibility that the account was never sold and there are possibly more things that you guys are hiding. Now I don't look forward to hear anything further this case. Feedback remains....
[ You lying about account being sold in 2018] You used this eth address: 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd recently BTC address : 3R25vLrcEAuLawPMesFYS75tQTv7E6nWfR ETH address : 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd
(Archive: http://archive.is/S2ywo#selection-2669.14-2669.56) Same address was used in joining the ACT signature campaign before the account was sold as you said in 2018. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7iOGVAw.png&t=665&c=BM2j5HRX8o4x9A)
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April 06, 2020, 12:52:01 PM |
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[ You lying about account being sold in 2018] You used this eth address: 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd recently BTC address : 3R25vLrcEAuLawPMesFYS75tQTv7E6nWfR ETH address : 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd
(Archive: http://archive.is/S2ywo#selection-2669.14-2669.56) Same address was used in joining the ACT signature campaign before the account was sold as you said in 2018. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7iOGVAw.png&t=665&c=BM2j5HRX8o4x9A) I think you got a little confused, the ETH address doesn't have any contacts here ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But we have a clear association through the BTC address The (3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF) was my old BTC Address that is why I use it everytime I pilot Bhabygrim's account.
Yes of course, certainly, it is his old BTC address. Perhaps, when the bhabygrim account was sold, his old BTC address was also included with it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) We continue to have a perfect excuse for a liar Well done xvids, you are so kind when selling the BTC address to the account buyer, the buyer is also stupid to take risks and use that address so far ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now get out of the signature campaigns you're cheating again
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April 06, 2020, 01:31:10 PM |
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Hello and thanks to everyone for this investigation. I'm following (even if i guess there is no more things to investigate as everything is pretty clear now...). We will take action against @bhabygrim So again, thanks especially to @ cheater detector and @ AvirunesInteresting thing is both of account running campaign currently and both platform name almost similar (coindragon & coinsaga). There is more chance of abuse when managers abused campaign previously. Archived links not working to me, so here is Archived links. 1. Luckydice Archived 2. David Chaum'XX Campaign ArchivedTagged for now, will reconsider feedback if they could provide reasonable excuses. I'm not sure what do you mean when you write "name and platform are almost similar"... I just searched for this coindragon and i would like to ask how is it similar to CoinSaga platform? Also, about the name: Coinmarketcap use also the word "Coin" but this doesn't mean that is related to CoinSaga. Isn't it?
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