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April 04, 2020, 07:34:58 PM |
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Hello Donfison,
We have deliberately chosen not to change the colors. This was a conscious choice, because we feel that the 1xbet site is well put together in terms of layout / design. We have tried different color contrasts but found the Blue of today to be the most clear and user-friendly.
About the bonus, I get that it looks 50x high at first glance, but considering the 1 BTC bonus I think it's reasonable. We could have chosen to use a bonus of eg approx 100 usd (converted into mBTC), of course we would not use a standard of 50x. Then 5x would be more user-friendly, for example. So it has to do with the amount of the Bonus, which is 1 BTC. You do not have to meet the entire conditions when you want to redeem part of your bonus. The advantage of our bonus is that all bets count, including bets on odds of 1.01
We assumed that users experienced the 1xbet interface very pleasant. If we had seen all this negative criticism coming in advance, we would of course have chosen a different layout. May I ask you if you already have tried our site?
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April 04, 2020, 07:46:37 PM |
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I have no idea why you didn't bother replying to my questions regarding your margin etc in one of my earlier posts op. You need to clear queries in order to actually gain positive feedback.
As I mentioned earlier, if you are actually legit, you made a huge mistake copying 1xbit's layout since they are top notch scammers in the crypto world. You should have done your research op.
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April 04, 2020, 08:44:48 PM |
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is Cleobet actually Malubit?
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April 04, 2020, 09:21:45 PM |
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This makes me not to trust your site op even if you said that you are not associated with 1xbit or 1xbet. Both sites are knon scammers and you just use the same platform as them which many people will give negative feedback because of using same platform as 1xbit even if the odds are different.
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April 04, 2020, 09:26:57 PM |
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I have no idea why you didn't bother replying to my questions regarding your margin etc in one of my earlier posts op. You need to clear queries in order to actually gain positive feedback.
As I mentioned earlier, if you are actually legit, you made a huge mistake copying 1xbit's layout since they are top notch scammers in the crypto world. You should have done your research op.
Evading or not tending to answer out questions asked by the community would really give out bad impressions on any new site specially now that it had been allegedly connecting to malubit which also copied the same design/template of known shady bookie. is Cleobet actually Malubit?
When you do try to compare both sites plus 1xbet then you can really tell the similarities.
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April 04, 2020, 09:49:35 PM |
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my 2 cents so far...
1) exactly same offer/odds on Cleobet and Malubit(which is logical due to having 1 provider) 2) way they "talk" on forum 3) bot from malubit thread showing here
I am just wondering could it really be Malubit in disguise
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Cleobet (OP)
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April 04, 2020, 09:59:18 PM |
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We don't understand the association with "Malubit.com"? We understand that people have doubts about the design compared to 1xbet. But Malubit .. I took a look at the odds of the site you name; Malubit.com As far as I can judge, we don't use the same data provider for Sports betting. But I prefer not to make statements about other bookmakers.
Here is an example:
Malubit.com Australian A-League
Wellington Phoenix - Adelaide United FC Home X Away Malubit 1.81 4.01 4.2 Cleobet.io 1.75 3.8 4.5
Please compare this. We also have nothing to do with Malubit.com I am curious which sportsbook will be stated in the next point, for accusation that we work also together with.
Radex, could you please specify your terms about "bot" ?
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April 04, 2020, 10:18:19 PM |
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for Live section, you have IDENTICAL offer/odds as malubit.com
word "bot" was describing someone else who showed up in your thread and was shilling for malubit.com
hi cazkooo, you good?
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Cleobet (OP)
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April 04, 2020, 10:25:02 PM |
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I understand your question now. We have nothing to do with Malubit though.
As I mentioned earlier, I cannot judge providers from other companies / bookmakers. I cannot speak on behalf of Malubit and I absolutely do not want to. If you have questions related to them, you should put them to them. But given the hundreds / thousands of sites out there, it seems plausible to me that some odds are the same.
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April 05, 2020, 07:11:26 AM |
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From my observations after looking through the reputation threads and your responses, you do have few defenders
And from my view, you face so much scrutiny due to the layout of your betpage, it is just to similar to other web page most especially 1xbet.
Can you provide more facts about cleobet in a summarized manner to make it easy?
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April 05, 2020, 07:41:39 AM |
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Undoubtedly, there is a danger that this company is related to 1xbet.com but I will still risk registering and adding a small amount to my account. Based on the results of the game and the withdrawal of money I will write a post later
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April 05, 2020, 08:34:52 AM |
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I don't know, why the people trying to mistrust this thread with a Newbie accounts.Kindly don't use your alt accounts to make a fake post and ruin this project.
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April 05, 2020, 09:08:20 AM |
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Undoubtedly, there is a danger that this company is related to 1xbet.com but I will still risk registering and adding a small amount to my account. Based on the results of the game and the withdrawal of money I will write a post later
How the fuck you damn sure this project is fake ? ! Do you have any proof for it?. This account is created yesterday to start a revolt against this project Don't make a fake post brother
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April 06, 2020, 08:52:17 AM |
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I think it is better for me to just ignore the false accusations and trying to stay positive.
Has anybody so far any feedback for our website? We are aware that there are not many games, but there are still some active games.
Please feel free to try our site.
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April 06, 2020, 09:03:05 AM |
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I think it is better for me to just ignore the false accusations and trying to stay positive.
Has anybody so far any feedback for our website? We are aware that there are not many games, but there are still some active games.
Please feel free to try our site.
Avoiding those false messages will give you a bad impression to the users here and those people who doubts you will find that their assumption is true since you are avoiding to answer their concerns, so better answer it up 1 by 1 so that people will see how good you are since in this business you need a transparency. If you are really serious don't make people doubt so better think of it.
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April 06, 2020, 10:08:07 AM |
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Undoubtedly, there is a danger that this company is related to 1xbet.com but I will still risk registering and adding a small amount to my account. Based on the results of the game and the withdrawal of money I will write a post later
How the fuck you damn sure this project is fake ? ! Do you have any proof for it?. This account is created yesterday to start a revolt against this project Don't make a fake post brother If my account was recently registered, it doesn't mean anything. In the betting market, all sites, starting with 1xbet and its subsequent clones, have never been distinguished by honesty. The software that runs the 1xbet site and its clones for experienced players has become a black mark and there is not a single site that has positive reviews. That's why there's so much suspicion. Regardless of this I have topped up my account for a small amount and I will soon test this site Here is a screenshot of your personal account with a topped up balance - http://joxi.ru/nAyYDXpCjNE80A
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April 06, 2020, 12:09:09 PM |
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@interactiv_spb Thank you for registering and trying our service. If you need any help, you can always contact us here with PM or on the Email. We do not have a live chat feature yet.
About the accusations: For the record: We are trying to answer all the questions. But there is a user on the forum with the name efialtis, who is using alt accounts (account "lauda" for example). trying to ruin cleobet as much as possible. And the worst thing is that he was doing this already before he spoke with us. In the reputations talk there are already topics opened from people who are accusing this user lauda (efialtis). If you suspect a system is fraud, I think it is normal to talk with a representative of it, and trying to get answers from them. Not just post its scam and try to red flag it.
If he had suspicions against cleobet, and he asked us to answer some questions, then he could decide to flag it or not. But what he did was just trolling, trying to take down cleobet without conversating any.
Of course we can not fight against this kind of fraud, since he is using 6-7 accounts in cleobet related topics, all written in the same style with the same negative words every message.
People have the right to ask questions, criticise, and yes the comparison to 1xbet website is justified from the point of view from the user. But as we explained, we have rebuilt this website, with less options, less sports and not even a casino. Do you really think that if we hire the Betb2b platform with tons of sports, we would minimize the sports and disable the Casino?
If people want to ask us questions, please do so and we will try to respond on any. The situation right now is that we are flagged without any reasons, only because efialtis is using alt accounts who give fraud merits. The ony thing we from Cleobet really want to know is why efialtis is trying to take us down.
We have no issues or problems with customers, and ony basedon our layout we got flagged. Sorry for my words, but this is ridiculous.
We will answer all questions, but we will not start the conversation with efialtis or one of his alt accounts, since he shows only disrespect and has no manners. I am also curious which sportbook has hired him. I read a post that Lauda was hired by an onine casino already, but I will not mention any names here.
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April 06, 2020, 12:36:46 PM |
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About the accusations: For the record: We are trying to answer all the questions. But there is a user on the forum with the name efialtis, who is using alt accounts (account "lauda" for example). trying to ruin cleobet as much as possible. And the worst thing is that he was doing this already before he spoke with us. In the reputations talk there are already topics opened from people who are accusing this user lauda (efialtis). If you suspect a system is fraud, I think it is normal to talk with a representative of it, and trying to get answers from them. Not just post its scam and try to red flag it.
The way you responded to the accusations is a bigger red flag than if the accusations were true. I suggest you find someone that knows how to behave professionally to represent your casino or just walk away now - there are plenty of other options for players who don't want to have to deal with someone like you.
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April 06, 2020, 12:42:33 PM |
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@efialtis/TwitchySeal I did not knew that you have so many alt accounts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 06, 2020, 12:58:21 PM |
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Well, I suggest we will go back to the start of the topic were you already accusing us and changing words. Hello,
Thank you for the messages. We have no association in any way with 1xbit / 1xbet / betb2b. We have developed our own platform and have our own license. We understand your questions / comments, but we are a completely different company.
That´s actually impossible, sorry - I may believe you are operating "independently" - stating you have developed your own platform, well, thats simply not true... I really hate to do/say this but with your first response - which came quickly, thanks for that - you have already disqualified yourselves. No association in any way cant be true based on the fact that your platform is exactly the same that is being used by 1xbet/1xbit and the hundreds of clones all over the net. Our platform is exactly the same? If you are stating this, it is clear that you did not reviewed the site well. We do not even have an online casino. The offers in live bets are much lower than 1xbet. If we would have used betb2b software, we would have exactly the same offers as 1xbet does.Where did we say "uniquely built platform" ? We said that we have deisgned our own platform. We never said it was unique. We told we have used the 1xbet interface as inspiration.You are talking about the whole structure: Perhaps it helps if you compare the offer of our sport events (sports / odds) with that of 1xbit / 1xbet.
Those differ completely from eachother.
You arent helping yourselves with your replies so far - even though I appreciate that you do answer! The sports betting selection being different? First of all, its actually not completely different when comparing it with all those sites. And then, it doesnt need to be identical to prove me right - that betb2b platform (of course) allows you to choose. By the way: Here in your ANN you are saying there is a 1 BTC welcome deposit bonus - on your website/platform, that you have build from scratch and completely on your own, you are saying 5 BTC... So whats it gonna be? And again you are wrong. betb2b platform does not allow you to choose. You rent their platform, that is their service. That is why it is called white label.
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