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March 21, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
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If you set up your encryption properly you can always hand them the "key" anyway.

I've never done a hidden OS, I'm not sure if that utilises a dummy password also, but I did set up a hidden truecrypt volume on one computer that was seized. I gladly handed over the dummy password which opened a folder empty of anything except my CV and a video of me doing the helicopter dance.

The password was *fuckthepolice*

The helicopter dance is:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Helicopter%20Dance


This is a true story. I spent 4 months on remand and this story made me a hero on the block. Especially when I walked due to lack of evidence (not that there ever was any since I was innocent of course)

what were the charges against you?
was it a drug charge or why did they want your computer?
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March 21, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
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I'm skating on thin ice in terms of de-anonymising myself as it is!

The UK police seize computers all the time, I know someone who got arrested for a drunken brawl and the police carried out a section 18 search of their uni housing and seized everyones laptop, took several weeks to return them too


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March 21, 2014, 02:52:20 PM
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I'm skating on thin ice in terms of de-anonymising myself as it is!

The UK police seize computers all the time, I know someone who got arrested for a drunken brawl and the police carried out a section 18 search of their uni housing and seized everyones laptop, took several weeks to return them too

Yes, I plan my IT stuff assuming seizure. Everything is encrypted and backed up in "the Cloud". Just the reality of refusing to fund the state. I suspect my time in the UK is drawing to a close.

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March 21, 2014, 02:57:41 PM
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yep, UK = stay away
funny how far it's come.
i've lived in iran, and england is not far off.
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March 21, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
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I'd much rather face a trial in the UK than Iran...


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March 21, 2014, 04:24:48 PM
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I've been thinking about this law for quite a while and a way out of this could be for a user to upload an encrypted copy of a key to an online server.

Each time the user wants the encrypted key back so they can locally decrypt it and then decrypt their data, they need to  make a declaration that states something like the required download is not under duress and will not be passed to a 3rd party.

I can't see how the police or even a court can compel you to lie, or, if the declaration is worded cleverly,  commit  a crime.











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March 22, 2014, 05:09:10 PM
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yep, UK = stay away
Also because of the people there wanting to talk to you about their missing money?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323682.msg5743319#msg5743319
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