DT slowly improving but why do some proven scammers remain on DT1

[bonesjonesreturns]

What  the logic behind allowing proven scammers or those where there is clear evidence of financially motivated wrong doings to remain on DT1?

Where there is undeniable evidence why the admins not removing scammers and dirty cheaters from default trust 1

Does this not place in danger the honest members of the community.
I am specifically referring to cases where there is conclusive proof of financially motivated wrong behavior to scam or directly facilitate scamming?

Direct relation to financial matters. Not personal squabbles and fighting.

Thanks for the sensible and courteous explanations.
I still see some DT1 where there is undeniable high risk members residing.

Let's think about that and the leverage DT1 provides to scam.

[AB de Royse777]

What  the logic behind allowing proven scammers or those where there is clear evidence of financially motivated wrong doings to remain on DT1?
Where there is undeniable evidence why the admins not removing scammers and dirty cheaters from default trust 1

Please bring some reference to back your claim and accused users in your book. FYI, admin or forum staffs do not moderate scam and such things.

DT system my not be 100% perfect but it's working well so far in my opinion.

[bonesjonesreturns]

What  the logic behind allowing proven scammers or those where there is clear evidence of financially motivated wrong doings to remain on DT1?
Where there is undeniable evidence why the admins not removing scammers and dirty cheaters from default trust 1

Please bring some reference to back your claim and accused users in your book. FYI, admin or forum staffs do not moderate scam and such things.

The evidence is clear and has been provided on many occasions but can be compiled here later.

It would be more than irresponsible to create a platform from which scammers can leverage their scamming and not blacklist those members where there is conclusive evidence of directly financially motovated wrong doing and outright scamming.

I would like to hear the logic behind allowing them to remain.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

The DT system will never be perfect, cryptohunter. There will always will some people that you or anybody else disagrees with being on DT. There’s never going to be a perfect system that pleases everybody, I’d imagine every single poster here would look at DT & wonder why the hell certain people are on it, I know I do.

All we can do is use our custom trust settings to create a list of people we trust & even people we distrust. We just have to use our vote to decide who should & who shouldn’t be on DT. That’s all we can do as individuals. The community ultimately decides together who is on DT.

[AB de Royse777]

The evidence is clear and has been provided on many occasions but can be compiled here later.

Well I am pretty sure the evidences were not enough to make a conclusion for others. Come up with some solid evidences which is enough to back up your claim.

I would like to hear the logic behind allowing them to remain.

Bring the evidences like I said few times already.
 

[suchmoon]

Please bring

Noooooooo... please don't encourage cryptohunter.

He's been shown to be abusing the trust system so now he's just trying to deflect and bury the real issue under an avalanche of new and bumped threads.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238118

[bonesjonesreturns]

Perfect DT 1
DT containing undeniable scammers and scam facilitators

There is a chasm between these.

Still I request to know the logic employed to permit proven and undeniable scammers and those with histories that contain documented irrefutable direct financially motivated wrong doing to take positions on default trust1

This is a created position that need not exist. To create a platform of trust that can be knowingly  leveraged by scammers is very puzzling and worrying. To create a scenario proven scammers are permitted to leverage scamming and silencing whistle blowers from seems perhaps .....

Royce the evidence is 100% irrefutable no person has been able to debunk it.
Take the debate on those terms.  
Or change the question to
should proven scammers be allowed on to permitted  DT1
We don't need to make this a reputation

Are you saying you have never seen conclusive proof of scamming or scam facilitating from DT1?

So approach it as should they be permitted to remain or go to reputation and look at the first 2 pages only.
I don't wish to be derailed into a rep thread here

Of course you are free to read through the first 2 pages of the reputation thread or find the dirty turds thread that in sure you may have seen before.

I will delete this account if no such evidence can be provided once we clearly establish that scammers, willing scam facilitators for pay who try to delete the evidence, or those with documented directly financially motivated wrong doing in their histories here should not be on default trust 1


Ignore the garbage from such moon above that has zero proof that only makes sense to a fool like him. More grasping at straws to defame 3 prior useful members far more useful than such moon the scammer supporter who is spamming chipmixer who seem to be sponsoring lots of scammer supporters.

[Lafu]

I will delete this account

Do us some favor , and please do that and all your other Accounts too !

[marlboroza]

Please bring

Noooooooo... please don't encourage cryptohunter.

He's been shown to be abusing the trust system so now he's just trying to deflect and bury the real issue under an avalanche of new and bumped threads.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238118

Yes! Exactly this!

I noticed 3 "gray topics" and last person who posted is bonesjonesreturnes and to be honest I don't know what he spewed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238118.0 but I am like 90% sure that bjr said something about nutildah's account topic, just to deflect things from subject, as usual. (Ninja edit: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238118.msg54164503#msg54164503 oh, yes, yes, I was right! Yeah!)

Judging comments here and Royce777's quotation, this is just another spam rant and another redundant topic created by this account, yeah, I see some common "keywords" this account use so I probably didn't  miss anything.

My suggestion is to stop feeding this troll and put it on ignore, this is best thing you can do for yourself and this forum.

[bonesjonesreturns]

I will delete this account

Do us some favor , and please do that and all your other Accounts too !

Lafu the same DT that was working to promote the huge exit scam cryptopia?
I bet many member wish you had delete your account before helping them lose their money.

Lafu the exit scam pusher? I don't think we can listen to your requests.  Sorry

Marlboroza the alt of zorrobeck? The scammer supporter? I don't think listen to a scammer supporter like this one.
I wonder anyone looked at their prior trust lists before they went blank?
Were marlboroza and zorrobeck his alt ever ...

No more derail.

Should proven scammers be permitted on DT1?
 
Let's stick to topic.

[AB de Royse777]

Okay time for me to leave this topic. I am really not into accusations without reference.

[bonesjonesreturns]

Okay time for me to leave this topic. I am really not into accusations without reference.

Have you recently had red trust removed from your account?

As an example but not something i want to debate here since the evidence is irrefutable
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231720.0

Now back to the core point. Why are undeniably directly financially dangerous members not blacklisted from dt1?
What is the logic?

I see a willing scam facilitator screaming for admin intervention based on bogus unproven speculation.
The intervention required is blacklist speculated alts from voting to remove scammers like himself?

So admins can intervene to blacklist speculated unproven alts from voting to remove scammers

But

Admins must not intervene to remove proven scammers like himself based on irrefutable evidence
As the anti trust system it's brilliant.
Designed specifically to tilt the favor to scammers but only those that scam the merit Staten the hardest first
Excellent logic.
Come and offer explanation that is not shredded please anyone.

[Foxpup]

Marlboroza the alt of zorrobeck? The scammer supporter? I don't think listen to a scammer supporter like this one.
I wonder anyone looked at their prior trust lists before they went blank?
Were marlboroza and zorrobeck his alt ever ...

Zorrobeck has no alts. You'll have to do better than that.

[Lauda]

Marlboroza the alt of zorrobeck? The scammer supporter? I don't think listen to a scammer supporter like this one.
I wonder anyone looked at their prior trust lists before they went blank?
Were marlboroza and zorrobeck his alt ever ...

Zorrobeck has no alts. You'll have to do better than that.

Wrong. These are all my accounts of course, and so are you.

[zorrobek]

Marlboroza the alt of zorrobeck? The scammer supporter? I don't think listen to a scammer supporter like this one.
I wonder anyone looked at their prior trust lists before they went blank?
Were marlboroza and zorrobeck his alt ever ...

Zorrobeck has no alts. You'll have to do better than that.

Wrong. These are all my accounts of course, and so are you.

Who the fuck is zorrobeck?

[Vod]

Who the fuck is zorrobeck?

You sound like TECHSHARE - he misspells everyone's name but then asks "Who the fuck is..." when you misspell his.  :/

[marlboroza]

You sound like TECHSHARE - he misspells everyone's name but then asks "Who the fuck is..." when you misspell his.  :/

Oh, well...

This (conspiracy theory and nonsense) is better:

I wonder anyone looked at their prior trust lists before they went blank?
Were marlboroza and zorrobeck his alt ever ...

Now tecshare will come to say "why is this important? If it happened, it happened long time ago." But we all know this won't happen, right? Nice objective guild they have 

[Foxpup]

Who the fuck is zorrobeck?

Who the fuck are you? I honestly thought I was zorrobeck and that c******unter was just using bad Spanish (which is still no worse than his English) to try to throw me off. Dammit, this happens every time I try to divine some sort of meaning from his rants. Maybe I should just give up.

[bonesjonesreturns]

Marlboroza the alt of zorrobeck? The scammer supporter? I don't think listen to a scammer supporter like this one.
I wonder anyone looked at their prior trust lists before they went blank?
Were marlboroza and zorrobeck his alt ever ...

Zorrobeck has no alts. You'll have to do better than that.

Wrong. These are all my accounts of course, and so are you.

Who the fuck is zorrobeck?

I'll just take foxpups word for it. I mean why would you not immediately believe everything a scammer supporter and protector says?

Its you malboroza. I notice that after qs had previously  asked you why you deleted some of your posts you correctly stated without video evidence of you posting from both accounts there was no proof it was you.

Although i noticed months later when you were asked to leave a thread you did, but immediately you just used your alt zorrobek to start posting on the thread. Silly boy.
That is more than adequate proof according to most dt to be proof of alt.
Although you malboroza appear to be more of a retarded lackey and scammer supporter protector rather than engaging in scamming directly. Where is the documented auction scammer tman? I enjoyed his stupidity. i hope he is keeping well.
Good to see scamming royalty lauda is here with his merit cycling mate foxpup.
These scammer enablers supporters and protectors will be cast down with their scamming masters the truth will just be presented  continuously where it provides an on topic and relevant warning to other members.

It is nice to bring the scammers and their supporters together for a group thrashing.  Those are always the most fun.
Where is the willing scam facilitator for pay? Summons us here then runs off ? He needs solar panels the electricity supply to his hut is very unreliable i hear.
Bring the lemons guy and nullius edition of lauda. I will enjoy ramming his word salads down his pencil neck. Self taught peasant pleb. Trying to impress with his boring spew of irrelevant memorized dinner party routines. Probably sounds impressive to young girls he has no chance with.
Let's get all those with irrefutable evidence of scamming away from dt1 and their supporters and protectors.
Unless there is a good reason to have DT1 stacked with these types?

These supporters and protectors have had ample time to stop supporting  and protecting now.
I will debunk any excuse provided for the documented scamming of lauda
Tman and nutildah are beyond excuses

Where are the excuse providers these days? I see other members have had all the fun and left nothing for me.
They just accept they are scammers and their supporters just avoid the subject whilst keep supporting?

How did DT1 become a concentrated bunch of scammers scammer supporters, willing scam facilitators for pay and gambling  sig spammers ??Where are the honest senior bitcoin enthusiasts?
Oh dear.