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April 09, 2020, 03:18:10 AM
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So I do think back in 2009 or way before 2009 something like apple fell on his head like Newton happened which made him think of an online Currency years ahead of it's time .
What if the apple was the Morse Code ?
The single most basic encrypted code which was invented back in 1837 could be the inspiration.
Morse code uses bases Dots and Dash Making a normal signal encrypted , which can only be decoded by a special software or even a person who understands it .
How a very simple thing could have helped discovered the Bitcoins , what are your thoughts ? Your take on what was the inspiration behind bitcoins??

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April 09, 2020, 04:03:58 AM
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So I do think back in 2009 or way before 2009 something like apple fell on his head like Newton happened which made him think of an online Currency years ahead of it's time .
What if the apple was the Morse Code ?
The single most basic encrypted code which was invented back in 1837 could be the inspiration.
Morse code uses bases Dots and Dash Making a normal signal encrypted , which can only be decoded by a special software or even a person who understands it .
How a very simple thing could have helped discovered the Bitcoins , what are your thoughts ? Your take on what was the inspiration behind bitcoins??
I remember having similar post before but couldn't find that. I'll tell you the same which I told in that. There can be multiple possibilities.
1. 2008 Housing market Crash: I personally consider this to be the prime reason. Satoshi might have been someone who lost great sums of money during the crash or would have seen people losing great sums of money this agitated him to create a currency which is not centralised by any bank therefore less prone to any bubbles. However there is a big contradiction to that as 1 year is never thought enough to create a wonder like bitcoin so this might not be the reason.
2. Dot com Bubble: He might have been someone engaged in IT World so might have suffered in the big dot com Bubble which ended in 2002 and 7 years is really enough to create such a currency.
3. General observation: Third reason obviously is a random walk theory. Because deep inside every financially literate person knows how fiat system works. So he might have come to know about this system and might have realised that it's a hoax. So this might have been an important inspiration.
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April 09, 2020, 05:05:18 AM
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I think that Satoshi got inspired by the earlier "digital money" consepts.

According to Wikipredia:
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In 1983, a research paper by David Chaum introduced the idea of digital cash.[3] In 1990, he founded DigiCash, an electronic cash company, in Amsterdam to commercialize the ideas in his research.[citation needed] It filed for bankruptcy in 1998.[4][5]

e-gold was the first widely used Internet money, introduced in 1996, and grew to several million users before the US Government shut it down in 2008. Users of the e-gold mailing list used the term "digital currency" to describe peer to peer payments in various instruments.[6] In 1997, Coca-Cola offered buying from vending machines using mobile payments.[7] PayPal launched its USD-denominated service in 1998

He might have been inspired by the Friedrich Hayek theory about "competing money"(I don't remember the correct term).Friedrich Hayek wanted money to be out of the control of central banks,because central banks monetary policies were damaging the business cycle and creating inflation.
The concept of a currency,that isn't controlled by any central bank or government in the world is the main idea of Bitcoin.That consept isn't invented by Satoshi itself.

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April 09, 2020, 05:54:14 AM
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I'm quite curious tho, what is Satoshi Nakamoto gonna do with all the Bitcoin that he has mined during its early time?  Huh
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April 09, 2020, 06:39:23 AM
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I'm quite curious tho, what is Satoshi Nakamoto gonna do with all the Bitcoin that he has mined during its early time?  Huh

It's completely up to him. Heck, he can even freely dump every single one of the coins he mined in the markets and it would be fine. Sure the price would most definitely crash which could be a bummer for a lot of people, but it's his money. He should do whatever he wants with it. Free markets.

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April 09, 2020, 07:00:25 AM
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there are questions that are very complicated to answer, to answer your question it would be necessary to ask satoshi nakamoto personally and we all know that satoshi nakamoto disappeared years ago. sometimes I think they should create an organization formatted by the greatest geniuses in the world to look for satoshi, if they find satoshi then many questions will be answered and we will no longer need to hear things that Faketoshi speaks every year

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April 09, 2020, 07:50:37 AM
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He most likely understood how a proper currency should be ran. A major crisis probably pushed him to implement or try out his idea. Lots of people likely have real solutions to alot of things but keep it in their minds (or somewhere) until there is great need to implement the ideas.
Bitcoin (in it's decentralized state) solve alot of difficult challenges only few people are probably aware of.  There is one particular challenge it solved I am very exited about. I think keeping it in the mind until it is needed is probably a good idea.
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April 09, 2020, 08:17:50 AM
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You can look at the hidden message in the Genesis Block:



"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"

You can also see in the White Paper his references, specially Wei Dai's "b money". So we can clearly see who Satoshi's inspiration is in releasing bitcoin in 2009.

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April 09, 2020, 09:50:26 AM
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Necessity is the mother of invention, when one has a dare passion for humanity and how they could be free atlest from a brutal financial system that rewards only the strong and the rich, then there is bound to be some critical brain work. For instance, I invested heavily in stock market in 2007 just before returning for my HND, till date the stock are dead and have left that for another generation to inherit. And they are bank shares which always post good profit yearly but never reflect in the price of their shares. This can make one think the system is a fraud and find a way out of the slavery.

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April 09, 2020, 10:49:27 AM
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there are questions that are very complicated to answer, to answer your question it would be necessary to ask satoshi nakamoto personally and we all know that satoshi nakamoto disappeared years ago. sometimes I think they should create an organization formatted by the greatest geniuses in the world to look for satoshi, if they find satoshi then many questions will be answered and we will no longer need to hear things that Faketoshi speaks every year

Your suggestion is really unrealistic, do you think you know Mr. Satoshi so well? The reason why there's a topic like this is because have no idea about his inspiration about developing btc. Behind this btc, I know that there is something more about the digital currency that we are using now. Maybe my speculation is, he know that as our technology is constantly advancing, he think of something that will never be outdated and can go with the flow of the technology. We all benefit bitcoin as it is very use as a store of value, investment, source of income, and a currency. But after all of this, we still need to find out if Mr. Satoshi did really exist, or is he still alive? His idea of bitcoin really broaden our mind when it comes to understanding and analyzing our market and economy.

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April 09, 2020, 02:22:16 PM
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I'm more inclined to him actually wanting to break free of the binds of the government. You know how developments tend to go towards surveillance more, where every move you make is seen and recorded. Yes, it's a prerequisite to a safer society, but nonetheless, it is quite bothering to know that you are being observed, even when you don't actually see anything observing you. Still, without the man himself saying anything, I doubt a good answer would be given. Plus, there may be multiple factors involved right?
there are questions that are very complicated to answer, to answer your question it would be necessary to ask satoshi nakamoto personally and we all know that satoshi nakamoto disappeared years ago. sometimes I think they should create an organization formatted by the greatest geniuses in the world to look for satoshi, if they find satoshi then many questions will be answered and we will no longer need to hear things that Faketoshi speaks every year
Bruh. I think creating an organization to look for a single person is a bit too much. Even if we do say that satoshi is a genius, he isn't one that is largely needed. Especially since his project tended more towards opposing the government.

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April 09, 2020, 03:31:41 PM
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So I do think back in 2009 or way before 2009 something like apple fell on his head like Newton happened which made him think of an online Currency years ahead of it's time .
What if the apple was the Morse Code ?
The single most basic encrypted code which was invented back in 1837 could be the inspiration.
Morse code uses bases Dots and Dash Making a normal signal encrypted , which can only be decoded by a special software or even a person who understands it .
How a very simple thing could have helped discovered the Bitcoins , what are your thoughts ? Your take on what was the inspiration behind bitcoins??
I wonder when people will stop presupposing Nakamoto's gender till we don't know who this person is. Half of the world's female, you know, and we are past the time when women could not become good at tech and other things, so it might well be a woman. In fact, this would explain why Satoshi remains anonymous since due to many people being sexist, she would not want her creation not to be taken seriously because of her sex. I'm not saying it's the case, I just don't like it when people keep writing Mr. and he when referring to Satoshi. As for the question about inspiration, there's a long pre-history of Bitcoin, and one of the good places to see it is, I think, here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.0

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April 09, 2020, 04:08:16 PM
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I don't think anybody can have an exact information about that but I guess we can all infer from his whitepaper that he envisioned a world with full financial freedom and privacy. Also, through Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies transaction fees will be reduced for all payments made with Bitcoin as compared to Fiat currencies.
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April 09, 2020, 04:31:33 PM
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I am quite sure that he would not have got this idea out of a sudden. He would have had this idea in his mind from a long time and implemented it only when after 2008. Also, it took him good amount of time to make bitcoin fully stable. If I were in his place I would have been really frustrated with how the traditional fiat system works. Banks owning our money and bullying us for our money. This must be a good reason why he must have thought of an alternative solution. He would have surely though about it long ago and when the financial crisis occured, it would have triggered him to create bitcoin.

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April 09, 2020, 05:54:37 PM
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As was stated in some posts about him, it was greatly inspired by Wei Dai and Nick Szabo's work, with some other things in-between that we now call as bitcoin. How he got the idea, that's what we won't be able to answer unless we really come close contact to Satoshi or get an interview with him. His accounts on *why* he devised bitcoin is literally in this forum, and that's mainly for political and economic reasons, especially pertaining to banks and government's continuous oppression to the unbanked majority.
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April 09, 2020, 06:10:28 PM
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I think that Satoshi got inspired by the earlier "digital money" consepts.
I'm hella sure that he read that before making his own concept since it was out long time ago even at the time he thought of it.

He might have been inspired by the Friedrich Hayek theory about "competing money"(I don't remember the correct term).Friedrich Hayek wanted money to be out of the control of central banks,because central banks monetary policies were damaging the business cycle and creating inflation.
The concept of a currency,that isn't controlled by any central bank or government in the world is the main idea of Bitcoin.That consept isn't invented by Satoshi itself.
He may be, but I'm also calling Wei Dai (which could be the real Satoshi with some old conspiracies) to be his inspiration since Wei Dai developed cryptography library and created the B-money cryptocurrency system. It was not the recession that happened in 2008, simply the dates will tell you why.

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April 09, 2020, 07:32:34 PM
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There were a number of other attempts that were not as successful as bitcoin. The most well known of these is perhaps DigiCash. DigiCash, created by David Chaum, was an important undertaking for the 1990s. Even before DigiCash, Chaum had an initiative called Ecash. Satoshi overshadowed them with a completely revolutionary blockchain invention.

Meanwhile, D. Chaum is currently working on several projects on Blockchain. You can find the details if you search.

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April 09, 2020, 08:13:49 PM
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Wasn't Bitcoin also highly influenced by hash cash? I could have sworn I have read that time and time over.

Satoshi's innovation was to combine several existing technologies and turn them into one system. As far as I know they were all around in one form or the other and had been for quite some time. And of course digital money had been around for years too, it was the centralisation they could never get past.

If I remember rightly hashcash was invented as some sort of anti spam measure. What's double weird is that its inventor didn't seem very moved by Bitcoin and only warmed up to it in 2013.
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April 09, 2020, 08:31:16 PM
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Probably a bit jealous until he realized hashcash wasn't going to catch on while Bitcoin was starting to gain real world attention by then.

Only a true computer science obsessive could come up with something like that. I've no idea whether it took off but I'd never have otherwise heard of it if not for BTC. Loads of the best stuff is identified and repurposed by someone with true vision. Satoshi made him, and vice versa of course. I hope they raise a glass to each other every now and then.
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April 09, 2020, 09:18:18 PM
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"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"

You can also see in the White Paper his references, specially Wei Dai's "b money". So we can clearly see who Satoshi's inspiration is in releasing bitcoin in 2009.

It's a bit of a misunderstanding to think that the 2008 crisis made Satoshi create Bitcoin, it is known that Satoshi was working on Bitcoin long before the crisis started. It's true that Satoshi was generally critical of the traditional financial institutions, but the exact event of the 2008 crisis wasn't the reason for creating Bitcoin.
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