The Turkish Complex of Some Eastern European Forum Members

[Foxpup]

Edit: My bad - looks like the guy is not Turkish... 

Don't feel bad. When I first distrusted these guys for blatant trust abuse, I didn't know what nationality they were either until they started accusing me of racism.

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[GazetaBitcoin]

Movie's, Movie's, Movie's. !  

Actually, you should have written "Movies, Movies, Movies" instead of "Movie's, Movie's, Movie's". "Movies" is the plural of "movie" and the term you were looking for. "Movie's" means "of the movie", as "'s" in English represents the genitive article indicating the possession. I'm not an English native, but I know the grammar.

Vires in numeris!

Unfortunately for you, young padawan, you never knew this! Nor you knew Latin (I suppose).

A while ago I noticed you don't know Latin. Now it turns out that you don't know English as well. One more reason to wonder who would hire an illiterate campaign manager lol.

I didn't know what nationality they were either until they started accusing me of racism.

I wonder what I'll be accused of. For being "gramar nazi"?

[JollyGood]

The race card is thrown about all too regularly by those members associated with Vispilio and his ilk as well as those floating around them to help encourage them to continue making mischief.

Somewhere near top the list of shameful members that keep the cycle of disunity going are users hacker1001101001 and an alt-account for Vispilio called DragonDance with general attention-seekers such as TECSHARE.

Edit: My bad - looks like the guy is not Turkish...  

Don't feel bad. When I first distrusted these guys for blatant trust abuse, I didn't know what nationality they were either until they started accusing me of racism.

[GazetaBitcoin]

You seem to be in reality loop. They live right here on the same earth as you do and are in same reality as you do. You should watch less fictional movies indeed.

Instead of looking for attention here, I'd suggest you to focus your efforts in a topic where your attention is really needed, such as Ree @hacker1001101001 ICO bump account. I saw you received plenty of unanswered questions there.

I have to repeat myself, although I don't like that. I observed that you are now stalking me inside the forum. I told you before to concentrate more where it really matters. Your friends JollyGood and marlboroza (among many others, as I can see) are still waiting for your presence in that very nice topic dedicated entirelly to you. You are missing from your own party! Are you so kind to honor your guests with your presence, instead of stalking me? There are many people there waiting for you, don't be impolite. We know that you don't have general culture, as you know nothing about Latin; we know that you need an English grammar book for being an illiterate, but at least don't prove yourself also for being impolite. That's the least you can do. Honor your guests!

[muslol67]

Are you guys all really OK?
Please can anyone tell me what is the relation with being Turks or any nation and "reputation" board? Please, what is the subject of nationalism and racism in this forum? Wasn't this forum created by "satoshi" on Bitcoin, Altcoin and trade?

Let historians solve the issues on history. What is your purpose here? If you still want to discuss nationalities:

Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners.

or



To date, there has been a lot of unnecessary discussion on this topic. There is no connection between nationalities and the forum. I think the department moderator should do something about this. @Cyrus

I have seen insults and humiliations about my country and our history many times. I don't think anyone has the right to do this. Freedom of expression and insult cannot coexist! I find it difficult to understand why the forum administration is silent on this issue. I'm not swearing or insulting anyone's nation here. And I feel sorry that they couldn't see that these posts damaged the forum image. I think they should not ignore that the activity on the forum is decreasing day by day.

Until a few years ago, Bitcointalk.org was where the most important discussions on Bitcoin and altcoins were held. Currently everyone here is discussing these issues on Twitter or Telegram. Because they can always encounter insults, humiliation and defamation here. Racism is on a completely different level. While the whole world has stood up on racism, it is unacceptable that someone who has a bad reputation in this forum still exists! (Everyone knows who this person is!)

While supporting the freedom of expression in the forum, I think that a fairer mechanism should be operated in terms of racism, profanity, insult and defamation as required by the society. For example, the ban mechanism can be operated by a common group of common sense. (just a suggestion, better be found)

[LoyceV]

Freedom of expression and insult cannot coexist!

You couldn't be more wrong! You can't have freedom of expression while at the same time oppressing "insults". What's insulting is subjective, and if you start censoring that, there is no freedom of expression left.

You can't expect everyone on the internet to be nice to you. That's okay. Grow a thicker skin, ignore them, tell them you don't like them, but no matter what you say, they should be able to express what they want.

You don't need freedom of expression to say kittens are cute. You need that freedom to say controversial things. But you also have the freedom not to agree with it. That's okay too.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Are you guys all really OK?

Yes, thank you for asking.

Please can anyone tell me what is the relation with being Turks or any nation and "reputation" board?

You should ask your countryman DragonDance, as he started this topic, remember? If you don't,  let me help you out:

It s no secret that for the biggest part of their modern history the entirety of what is today known as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, all the formerly Yugoslavian nation fragments, sizable parts of Poland, Austria, Czechia and Slovakia, in summary the whole of Balkans and considerable parts of Eastern Europe were under Turkish rule.

If the Ottoman Sultans did not sabotage their own dynasty through extensive fratricide and the later adapted practice of keeping the heir apparent locked in a cage till coronation, chances are pretty high all these lands would still be under Turkish banners today, we know for a fact that genetically they are more Turkish now than any of the nominal nationalities mentioned above...

Please, what is the subject of nationalism and racism in this forum?

Again, talk to OP, but also with other Turks here sharing the same mindset: wolwoo, Blacknavy, Vispilio, mhanbostanci, cean. Alternatively, you can also talk to hacker, peloso and a few others which seem to be close to the Otomans.

Wasn't this forum created by "satoshi" on Bitcoin, Altcoin and trade?

Actually no. It was created only on Bitcoin. Altcoins did not exist in 2009.

Let historians solve the issues on history.

I would agree, but your countrymen disagree. They want to rewrite the history.

While the whole world has stood up on racism, it is unacceptable that someone who has a bad reputation in this forum still exists! (Everyone knows who this person is!)

Actually, I don't. Who is this person?

While supporting the freedom of expression in the forum, I think that a fairer mechanism should be operated in terms of racism, profanity, insult and defamation as required by the society. For example, the ban mechanism can be operated by a common group of common sense.

We already have this group: the mods.

[muslol67]

Freedom of expression and insult cannot coexist!

You couldn't be more wrong! You can't have freedom of expression while at the same time oppressing "insults". What's insulting is subjective, and if you start censoring that, there is no freedom of expression left.

You can't expect everyone on the internet to be nice to you. That's okay. Grow a thicker skin, ignore them, tell them you don't like them, but no matter what you say, they should be able to express what they want.

You don't need freedom of expression to say kittens are cute. You need that freedom to say controversial things. But you also have the freedom not to agree with it. That's okay too.

I can't agree with you. You can also gently criticize a person. To insult is only to insult, nothing more. And it is not right to talk about freedom of expression while insulting a person.

For example, I insulted you and you did it to me. What's the matter here? What did the forum gain from this? When viewed from the outside, the forum is seen as a place where racism, neopotism and swearing are falling. Don't you really see these kinds of statements make the forum look bad?

Are you guys all really OK?

Yes, thank you for asking.

Please can anyone tell me what is the relation with being Turks or any nation and "reputation" board?

You should ask your countryman DragonDance, as he started this topic, remember? If you don't  let me help you out:

It s no secret that for the biggest part of their modern history the entirety of what is today known as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, all the formerly Yugoslavian nation fragments, sizable parts of Poland, Austria, Czechia and Slovakia, in summary the whole of Balkans and considerable parts of Eastern Europe were under Turkish rule.

If the Ottoman Sultans did not sabotage their own dynasty through extensive fratricide and the later adapted practice of keeping the heir apparent locked in a cage till coronation, chances are pretty high all these lands would still be under Turkish banners today, we know for a fact that genetically they are more Turkish now than any of the nominal nationalities mentioned above...

Please, what is the subject of nationalism and racism in this forum?

Again, talk to OP, but also with other Turks here sharing the same mindset: wolwoo, Blacknavy, Vispilio, mhanbostanci, cean. Alternatively, you can also talk to hacker, peloso and a few others which seem to be close to the Otomans.

Wasn't this forum created by "satoshi" on Bitcoin, Altcoin and trade?

Actually no. It was created only on Bitcoin. Altcoins did not exist in 2009.

Let historians solve the issues on history.

I would agree, but your countrymen disagree. They want to rewrite the history.

While the whole world has stood up on racism, it is unacceptable that someone who has a bad reputation in this forum still exists! (Everyone knows who this person is!)

Actually, I don't. Who is this person?

While supporting the freedom of expression in the forum, I think that a fairer mechanism should be operated in terms of racism, profanity, insult and defamation as required by the society. For example, the ban mechanism can be operated by a common group of common sense.

We already have this group: the mods.

You're funny.

I don't even know DragonDance! So I have nothing to ask him. All of what I wrote here already includes what he wrote. What is wrong is wrong! No matter who says this or his nationality!

I think you should learn who I did mention there easily if you really don't have any idea!

Ok then. If we have already mod's group. What are they doing recently? What are they expecting? I am asking again;
Don't you really see these kinds of statements make the forum look bad? You shouldn't be surprised if you find that fewer people are online and poor quality posts are coming soon.

[suchmoon]

And it is not right to talk about freedom of expression while insulting a person.

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Don't you really see these kinds of statements make the forum look bad?

Totally agree. These kinds of statements make us look like illiterate baboons who don't understand that freedoms come with stuff we might not like. We might even look too dumb to use "Ignore".

[LoyceV]

I can't agree with you. You can also gently criticize a person. To insult is only to insult, nothing more. And it is not right to talk about freedom of expression while insulting a person.

I am insulted by the very fact that you think you can have freedom of speech without being allowed to insult someone. So by your own definition you're not allowed to say that!
Luckily for you, you actually have the right to say pretty much anything you want on this forum. And as a Thick-Skinned Gang Leader, I can handle anything you throw at me.

For example, I insulted you and you did it to me. What's the matter here? What did the forum gain from this? When viewed from the outside, the forum is seen as a place where racism, neopotism and swearing are falling.

It's the internet, I couldn't care less about your race. You can claim to be a Smurf if you want too. It can't be checked anyway, so why do you even care?
I think I'm usually pretty friendly, and I usually don't try very hard to insult people. But I can understand why others do that, and I highly value their right to do so. If someone, especially in an anonymous environment, treats others badly, it tells you a lot about them. But how you handle it says a lot about you.

Don't you really see these kinds of statements make the forum look bad?

No. It's what makes this forum great and unique! If you don't like it, you may want to go to a heavily censored SJW forum where your fragile feelings are protected. Bitcoin is about freedom, and you can't have freedom to say what you want without other people having the same freedom to say what they want. Grow a thicker skin or choose to have a fragile ego hurt.
I'm pretty sure there are already texts that you don't like embedded in the Bitcoin blockchain. It's okay. You don't have to read it. Why would you even bother to read things on a website if it insults you?

[JollyGood]

You summed it up fairly directly. If freedom of speech is not absolute then it cannot be called freedom of speech and as such any suppression of expression (no matter how distasteful) means curbs on those freedoms.

I would go as far as to say with freedom of speech and expression should also come responsibility too but sadly that is not always the case as allowing freedom of speech should be absolute otherwise it defeats the object of expression.

Freedom of expression and insult cannot coexist!

You couldn't be more wrong! You can't have freedom of expression while at the same time oppressing "insults". What's insulting is subjective, and if you start censoring that, there is no freedom of expression left.

You can't expect everyone on the internet to be nice to you. That's okay. Grow a thicker skin, ignore them, tell them you don't like them, but no matter what you say, they should be able to express what they want.

You don't need freedom of expression to say kittens are cute. You need that freedom to say controversial things. But you also have the freedom not to agree with it. That's okay too.

[Stedsm]

Why is there even some need felt by these Turkish users to show up with themselves being called as Turkish rather than Bitcoin enthusiasts? What makes them so different while being Turkish? Do they know much better about anything in this world rather than others who are called the experts of this forum? Is this jealousy just because their local (language) board is not being given any existence nor importance in any major signature campaigns?

[Vlad2Vlad]

Why is there even some need felt by these Turkish users to show up with themselves being called as Turkish rather than Bitcoin enthusiasts? What makes them so different while being Turkish? Do they know much better about anything in this world rather than others who are called the experts of this forum? Is this jealousy just because their local (language) board is not being given any existence nor importance in any major signature campaigns?

Stop with the logic, it’s rude.  😬 

[DragonDance]

Why is there even some need felt by these Turkish users to show up with themselves being called as Turkish rather than Bitcoin enthusiasts?

There is no such need, it's diversionary black propaganda.

What makes them so different while being Turkish? Do they know much better about anything in this world rather than others who are called the experts of this forum?

Loaded bullshit questions, every individual is judged by his own merits, where are you from ?

Is this jealousy just because their local (language) board is not being given any existence nor importance in any major signature campaigns?

yeah, they are jealous because some under-qualified fake "experts" like you managed to deceive the Chipmixer organization into paying them fat salaries, luckily you were promptly kicked out, so you personally have fuck 0 to do with any of those debates going on, good luck.

[AlexSimion]

This is already going on for way too long , can we start a new country complex pls ? Feel like the romanians could use a little bit of attention . So can someone just write something completely casual so I can get butthurt over it and react and throw nationality for no apparent reason in the conversation ?

[Vlad2Vlad]

This is already going on for way too long , can we start a new country complex pls ? Feel like the romanians could use a little bit of attention . So can someone just write something completely casual so I can get butthurt over it and react and throw nationality for no apparent reason in the conversation ?

Ok.  Romanians will be on the G8 soon unless I decide to kick out the Canada clowns which will then still be called the G7. 

Why?  Cause we belonged in the G7 a long time ago if it weren’t for communists and sabotage. 

Plus. Every Latin based euro language, including Latin, needs To bow down to romanian since that’s their mother language. 

Thank you for playing! 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Speaking of crazy romos, where’s mircea Popescu.  I need to talk to him one on uno.

OMG, are you talking about MPOE-PR?  I remember that member from my early days of lurking on the forum, and I found his posts to be some of the most biting and entertaining ones I've read thus far. 

I don't think this thread needed a bump, since there hasn't been much drama surrounding the Turkish community for at least a week that I'm aware of.  And as far as I know all of it revolves around members not getting into the Chipmixer campaign, but it's been explained a number of times how competitive that campaign is and that members from all over the world have been rejected.  I don't think most people have a problem with the Turkish community in general, just some of their more vocal, more arrogant members who stick out like a priapismic dickeroony, if you know what I mean.

[JollyGood]

"priapismic" 

You are right obviously, a few members from the Turkish language board tried to create a divisive atmosphere between them and the global board users but they failed.

Speaking of crazy romos, where’s mircea Popescu.  I need to talk to him one on uno.

OMG, are you talking about MPOE-PR?  I remember that member from my early days of lurking on the forum, and I found his posts to be some of the most biting and entertaining ones I've read thus far. 

I don't think this thread needed a bump, since there hasn't been much drama surrounding the Turkish community for at least a week that I'm aware of.  And as far as I know all of it revolves around members not getting into the Chipmixer campaign, but it's been explained a number of times how competitive that campaign is and that members from all over the world have been rejected.  I don't think most people have a problem with the Turkish community in general, just some of their more vocal, more arrogant members who stick out like a priapismic dickeroony, if you know what I mean.

[gentlemand]

OMG, are you talking about MPOE-PR?  I remember that member from my early days of lurking on the forum, and I found his posts to be some of the most biting and entertaining ones I've read thus far.  

He sticks to his blog where he does unpleasant things to naked women with large moustaches. I think the latest post was about strangling them.

And as far as I know all of it revolves around members not getting into the Chipmixer campaign, but it's been explained a number of times how competitive that campaign is and that members from all over the world have been rejected.

There's a large dose of mindlessness on display here. You basically have to be Miss World to get into the Chipmixer campaign now. I doubt I'd get in. Just being outraged and entitled isn't quite enough.

And I've seen it before with other creeds. One fella seemed to be threatening to go to some sort of Better Business Bureau because he wasn't taken on. I'm sure they would've been genuinely fascinated, and totally mystified, to hear from him.