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April 10, 2020, 09:51:02 PM
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But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.
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April 10, 2020, 10:06:24 PM
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It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This is wrong. The salary should just be compensated based on working days. Owners can make an advanced payment but not for every month. That's already a good move. But if ever the company didn't pay from the start, that's another story.

It's not a simple sacrifice. It's easy to say they are rich but that is just numbers. If they will sustain all worker's salaries while no business until everything back on track, that will be destruction and the end of Vegas business. If the business will end, no more employment needed, no jobs, no works once the situation back to normal. Imagine the number of workers that needed to be paid. Vegas has thousands of workers.

This kind of problem should be addressed to the government.

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April 10, 2020, 10:07:02 PM
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Absolutely, not only the casinos workers deserve this type if assistance as the lockdown is generally affecting the entire world and not selecting some career than others. We all known what the take a home of the gambling house is and they can afford the assistance of helping  their workers. Although, many of these gambling platforms or companies are only after their own gains than to help their workers, if they grant or give their staff a helping hand, this will be the best for anyone in the community to read about. Hope they equally remember we the gamblers who ensure they never run out of their businesses  Tongue

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April 10, 2020, 10:19:41 PM
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It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This crisis have hit hard not only those people working in the casinos but i think in every sector of the society. If we all rely on the government i think i will fail, employers should play a big role here in helping their employees to ease the load of the government. After all, those individuals that received help from their employers were also responsible for their success, just a small payback for them.

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April 10, 2020, 10:32:09 PM
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Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.
From the business ethics perspective, it is not acceptable to just getting rid of the loyal employees during the long lockdown. The unemployment rate climbed to the high levels since the 2008 worldwide financial crisis and everyone knows what kind of consequences will be actual in the near future. I don't know how big portion of the tax is fulfilled with the paid taxes of casinos but turnover of the casino has to be enough for giving bonuses as a part of salary to loyal employees.

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April 10, 2020, 10:44:13 PM
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It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This crisis have hit hard not only those people working in the casinos but i think in every sector of the society. If we all rely on the government i think i will fail, employers should play a big role here in helping their employees to ease the load of the government. After all, those individuals that received help from their employers were also responsible for their success, just a small payback for them.
Its not mandatory but just to think on humanitarian act then as a casino owner you would surely do such thing.You know that these people are part of your success and it isnt really that bad to think of them or giving out some help in times of crisis but well this would vary or depend on what kind of person for those people who do own those casinos.Not all would have the same mindset and feelings into other people.
If they would help they would help if  not then they would just dont care on whats happening around as long they do have their own money for themselves.

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April 10, 2020, 11:19:23 PM
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But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.

Not a lifetime of course. At least maybe couple of months so as to keep them afloat for the moment while waiting for other's assistance like from the government. They should look into the real conditions of their employees. Not only in casinos but same with other businesses as well. They are also losing, but their employees are more vulnerable as they will have nowhere to turn to just to buy food on their table. I know someone here in my country, he has a resto business but what he did, whatever was left (stocks) in his resto, cooked it all and gave to all those that really needed it. And bought groceries for his employees during lockdown. I know this kind of person is rare, but considering that he is not really rich made me think that even in his own ways, he finds ways to help and that is if you really want to.
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April 10, 2020, 11:20:59 PM
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It's really up to the employers to take responsibility and pay their employees in this lockdown, but they can only help as much as they can. So yes, a 2 week or month salary is good in my opinion. They are also losing big money when the closure of their casinos. So this whole Covid-19 has really fuck up everyone around us and it is going to be survival for everyone. Even governments are doing their best to help their people around the world but they can't go on giving money to everyone. This situation really a eye opener for us, better save for rainy days.

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April 10, 2020, 11:38:35 PM
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I guess the government should help the people more as they never lose money, they just collect tax from the people and they don't invest on it.

The company invest a lot, so if employees loss their job it's expected that the company is struggling that's why they can't blame each other.
If the casinos here enough buffer for this kind of situation, they can give but it is their own will, they will not be force here as they are not breaking any law, demanding is quite harsh of what employees should do, they just have to request on it, now, it could be granted or not by their employers.
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April 10, 2020, 11:47:00 PM
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This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
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April 11, 2020, 12:04:36 AM
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Many employers are not paying their employees not just the casino. They have this rule for not paying because their company/business were close and I think its their right to refuse. However during this time we can see the employers who have real concern to its people by continue giving salary despite of stop production, especially everyone is affected of the lockdown. In our company no work, no pay as well and we cant do anything about it. We are just counting in our savings and the relief goods from the government.

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April 11, 2020, 12:31:31 AM
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This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.
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April 11, 2020, 01:07:13 AM
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There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.

As I said above, that's not a mandatory thing to do by a company. If they paid their workers right during the covered days, the follow-up salary during the lockdown is not mandatory to give. It's on a company's own will to provide more and based on the article shared by OP, I think they already paid for it but the workers demanding that the salary should continue even lockdown which is not easy even you say they are rich. There are thousands of workers, we are not talking about less than 100 workers here.

I think companies already lend a hand and extended it to their workers but to the point, they will support all workers until the lockdown end, that's a no brainer since as I point also above, this will lead into the business crash which is far worst as it will decrease employment once the situation back to normal.

These workers, instead of requesting a hard demand for the company should knock the doors of the government. The government is the key body to help people. Also try to save money as much as possible. We have to expect that in this crisis, we should help ourselves and our usual lifestyle back then will not be the same including what food we eat.

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April 11, 2020, 02:15:48 AM
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Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

If we are to be practical about it, the casinos don't have to pay their workers, not only because they are not working but also, and more importantly, because the business has no revenue to support that. They have the option to pay them even if they are not working, but if that would spell bankruptcy to their business, that would be much worse. Their workers will have nothing to go back to after this pandemic.

The government's timely intervention is what is necessary during this time. Pending such assistance, the workers will have to start spending what they have kept for the rainy days. 

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April 11, 2020, 02:17:11 AM
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This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.

not all casino are earning good and also offline casinos and gambling places are the one that is totally affected with it . so dont put all the blame on them guys  . only online casinos are now earning good so far so obviously these are the ones that provide donations for thier workers  but i forgot that its online anyway , so workers can still safely work from thier own home except to those who need to report for the casinos actual offices to do paper works and stuff like that that isnt possible to do online
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April 11, 2020, 02:30:57 AM
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This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.

not all casino are earning good and also offline casinos and gambling places are the one that is totally affected with it . so dont put all the blame on them guys  . only online casinos are now earning good so far so obviously these are the ones that provide donations for thier workers  but i forgot that its online anyway , so workers can still safely work from thier own home except to those who need to report for the casinos actual offices to do paper works and stuff like that that isnt possible to do online
But even if you say that gambling houses are totally affected by this lockdown, they should still extend their hands to their employees. It is their responsibility as employers to show their concern and willingness to help their employees that is working hard everyday for their business.
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April 11, 2020, 05:47:08 AM
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Probably, the casino can pay the salary for 50% for their employee every month. But, I think that it will be difficult for the casino itself because all businesses and workers cannot work as usual, and the casino cannot getting revenue. The casino depends on how many gamblers spend their money in their places. So if their place shut down, they will not get any money at all. It's dilemmatic here, the casino wants to pay their workers, but they don't have revenue, the employee cannot buy their daily needs for living. I think that will depend on the casino policy if they really concern with their employee, they should take care of them, at least, they can support the daily needs to their employee.

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April 11, 2020, 06:07:13 AM
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I think that will depend on the casino policy if they really concern with their employee, they should take care of them, at least, they can support the daily needs to their employee.
Definitely it depends on the policy, but if the casinos can't provide what the employees need, maybe they can extend some help through loan, that way it will be able to help their employees at this situation and they'll get back that loan once the business resume its operation.

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April 11, 2020, 06:37:44 AM
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I think that will depend on the casino policy if they really concern with their employee, they should take care of them, at least, they can support the daily needs to their employee.
Definitely it depends on the policy, but if the casinos can't provide what the employees need, maybe they can extend some help through loan, that way it will be able to help their employees at this situation and they'll get back that loan once the business resume its operation.

I don't think to give them loan will help and solve the problem because they don't know when the pandemic will over so they can come back to work again if this pandemic stays for a long time, how they can pay the debt while they cannot go out to search for a new job. Giving a loan can be an alternative solution, but that doesn't solve the problem in the long term. As I said before, these situations are difficult for both the casino and the employee, but we can hope that there will be a win-win solution for both. The employee cannot expect the casino to guarantee or support for their lives if the casino doesn't have money to give to them.

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April 11, 2020, 06:48:46 AM
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This is what i Hate to this situation that These gambling owners are becomes more richer because of their employee brings success to their business but when people needs them most?denial is what they got.

Yeah businesses are not oblige to help their employee because they should have responsible for their own lives but having this pandemic?consideration must be in place .

or else these casinos must not be followed and use by people because of their Bad attitude towards their people.









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