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April 11, 2020, 08:28:38 AM
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This only concludes how important to have a savings so we can prepare to this kind of scenario and for the workers, I cannot blame them if they are asking their employers for a salary because they need money right now in order to buy food and etc. just to survive in this type of situation.

In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.
Yes but not everyone could do it since there are some people who only have enough salary to sustain their livings to pay their bills and to put food on their table.
But there are some who couldn't do it even save a small amount from their salary for emergency purpose or for times like this.
We couldn't blame them just think about what they have done in order to survive before the crisis occur there are some who are already having a hard time managing their income or only make enough to live their life.

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April 11, 2020, 08:30:50 AM
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It is certainly not the fault of the workers in the sector if the casinos have had to close given the current situation, in my opinion all the casinos should support their employees economically in these times of crisis I do not think given their usual high earnings that would lose much and then when they reopen it is better to have the same experienced employees who know how it works...
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April 11, 2020, 09:24:04 AM
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"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.

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April 11, 2020, 09:24:13 AM
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They need to be helping now but we cannot force them.

i believe that US government is helping also right?so lets stay safe and let us not blame anyone about this because this is a Virus and no one knows what will happen next time.









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April 11, 2020, 09:38:34 AM
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Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.
If the casino is able to provide the salary then it is well and good asking them to take care of their financial struggles is a tough ask, the lock down and the virus spread will lead to a financial crisis and that will affect their business and these casino owners have to be prepared for those situation too.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.
 
No one expected a complete lock down in the wildest dreams to be prepared for a situation like this and hence you cannot blame anyone for this situation. The government will come up with a resolution by extending their loan and providing essential products.
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April 11, 2020, 09:45:14 AM
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I won't actually blame the casinos even if they were unable to pay the workers that are currently asking for assistance. It isn't like the casino business is the only one having difficulties and tbh, this requires proper fund management from the person themselves. If the casino helps them, then everyone's happy tbh. But if the casino doesn't, I doubt they have the right to actually complain about it. After all, business is business. You work for me and I pay for you, and I believe most contracts uphold this basic concept. It isn't their responsibility, but, it can be their right to freely give them. It isn't like how rich people are required to help poor people, but rather the government is required to prevent people from being poor right? And it's also up to the government to prevent the rich from taking advantage of their riches. Though sadly, responsibility is a difficult thing to uphold, especially when in the government.

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April 11, 2020, 09:55:50 AM
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This problem is a major problem worldwide. It is a big problem for the people who cannot work at the moment, especially in countries with an underdeveloped economy. While countries with developing economies constantly announce aid packages for people with this situation; those with a poor economy are experiencing difficulties in this regard.

In every country, regardless of the field in which it works, all the basic needs of everyone whose workplaces have been closed must be met. Otherwise, huge problems can be seen. Many workplaces have been closed in my country as well, and no significant assistance has been made to date.

As our friend in this topic mentioned, workers working at casinos need to be paid as much as they can meet their basic needs. I think the UN should make a statement on this issue.

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April 11, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
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I think this is possible because in our country all of the workers has been given an assitance by the Department of Labor and Employment and some company requires to give assistance to their workers as well, it is the right thing to do because they are all deserve that help with all their hardworks and efforts for the company. A simple help with their boss with this current situation where crisis is still affecting so many lives is very appreciative, this would make them more loyal working on your company.

Humanity restored, this is essential most especially to those workers who have family to feed for. It is not easy to earn money, plus this lockdown prohibit workers to do their and have nothing but no salary. The company should owe some money to their workers to increase their loyalty to the company and safety inside their house. That's right, a simple help will make them fight and survive this quarantine, most especially, we have no idea when this crisis will end. The company should also worry about its worker's health and state that's why it is very essential to do your work passionately.

Casino gambling is very profitable so the assistance that they are going to give to ther employee is just a simple thing for them. They earn so much money in casino so I think they will help their workers.

I'm pretty sure that if the company is big enough, it will not have a hard time to give money to its workers. They will not have a second thought if they will do that with their own humility to give people what they need in this kind of crisis. Helping other people is essential as they will appreciate it after they reflect on the help that they have received.
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April 11, 2020, 10:19:37 AM
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But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.

Yes, that's a fact, it is the responsibility of the government to give the community the necessities they should've in order to survive the quarantine. Most especially, that the cure or vaccine is not that easy to discover, so we have no idea when this pandemic will end. There are a lot of families that are starving because of the virus, they can't go to work and earn their salary. Luckily, there are some big companies who help its workers to have some funds that is enough for a short period of time. Although it is not enough, we should be grateful that there are some companies who are doing their best just to help its workers to have something to feed for their family. The crucial thing here is that the government should allocate some funds for its people so that it lessen the suffering of those who really need some assistance and support.

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April 11, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
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It's not just casino, almost all of the businesses are hurt from this unexpected crisis. And every of them are demanding some sort of stimulus package and most of nations have provided some form of stimulus according to their capacity. Demanding a separate pay for work they have not done would bring more problems than solutions. The first priority at the moment is to live. Money can be earned at a later date if you survive.


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Governments have bailout plans and other related economic packets for helping the threatened sectors of the economy. The latest global lockdown has affected the casino workers too and the situation becomes worse every day of the quarantine. Gamblers have alternative choices such as playing online games but the conditions are not fair for casino employees.

We are worried about how can we gamble in times like this. We have our alternatives like online gambling, but casino workers don't. For sure the government is doing its part, but companies also have their parts. It's to help their workers.

Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be loyal to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.


I'm not saying that they should pay them every month. But a simple consideration for their workers. There are paid leaves, and they can deduct their leaves so that workers can still have their salary in the meantime. The government should be taking action to help their people, but companies also have their roles for their workers.
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April 11, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
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Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be local to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.

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not worry about paycheck and their jobs, when they start working again owners expect all of them to come back
and work! That is fair! Now in time of crisis is not very nice when owners show irresponsibility towards their workers.
If someone throw me on the street now, I wouldn't go back there! People would find better job they can have respect, in good and bad times.



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April 11, 2020, 12:08:33 PM
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Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be local to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.

   Plvbob0070 I totally agree with you!!! My younger sister works in casino, she is on holiday more than a month,
casino where she works is closed when pandemic started. Owner of casino is still pays them, and told them to
not worry about paycheck and their jobs, when they start working again owners expect all of them to come back
and work! That is fair! Now in time of crisis is not very nice when owners show irresponsibility towards their workers.
If someone throw me on the street now, I wouldn't go back there! People would find better job they can have respect, in good and bad times.

It's fair in the time of crisis but although employers is not oblige to pay their employers since on the other hand they are affected to but in the name of humanity for sure they can cover since they are rich and can able to support the one who make them rich in time of crisis and luckily your sister got a good employer since the other are struggling since they didn't get any support just what plvbob given on his thread.


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April 11, 2020, 12:22:17 PM
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Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.

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April 11, 2020, 12:26:49 PM
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Just like what is happening the whole world?every cities now has their own employees asking for help this becomes sensational because they are from Biggest casinos in the world so attention has been there.
But what are the difference between those casino employees and others?there is none lol and this is the reality now.
here in my City there are also many people crying for Help but no one is listening.
but i am still hoping that casino owners will Hear their sentiments .

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April 11, 2020, 12:58:15 PM
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Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This is really sad.

In our country, the president is wanting their employers to pay their employees despite them not working for weeks because of the ECQ. I think it is also a consideration in this quarantine for these people that are providing to their families. I agree that it is their responsibility as their employers and they are not doing that responsibility.
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April 11, 2020, 03:28:16 PM
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Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

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“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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I think they can pay casino workers in advance because casino workers doesn't have any income aside frok casino and they have no income totally since all of the casinos are offline and closed. I hope their government can help them because they need really need it. Maybe they can work from their home by servicing online gambling and they can also play. I hope they can get a way to survive the shutdown.
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April 11, 2020, 05:20:27 PM
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"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.
I agree with you that the gambling business is a high-income business, but one's wealth has its limits, especially the owner of the gambling business.. just imagine if a casino owner who has one hundred employees with an average salary of $ 1000 / month then the casino owner must spend is $ 100,000/ month during this "PANDEMIC", researchers have confirmed that they cannot be sure when this PANDEMIC ends..

IMO.. reducing employee salaries from 50% - 70% is the best decision that should be made by all business people (not just gambling entrepreneurs) during this "PANDEMIC" period..

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April 11, 2020, 05:34:16 PM
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A terrible situation (as in many other industries). I am happy for those whom the state helps with money - for example, this is not the case in my country, so my situation is more complicated  Undecided
Interestingly, in connection with the closure of offline casinos, has the number of online players increased? Or did people’s lack of income play a role here?

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April 11, 2020, 05:36:06 PM
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Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.
They need comassions from their respective employers, this people serve the company they are not aware and unprepared with how things turned
with this pandemic virus, they will appreciate all the help that their companies will provide to them. Casino owners have reserve money surely they
can afford to release such amount to help their employees to survive from this crisis.
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