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April 14, 2020, 11:21:14 PM
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This action should be happening in all businesses, those who truly care for their employees.
Give them a bit of assistance while government's aid is out of reach.
Unfortunately not all business are good with this, some keeps their profit and only give to their employees what is due to them.
Business is business for them, they don't use a heart here.

In times likes this, you will know how far an employer can go beyond on their responsibilities.
Not many businesses can afford, but you will see what kind of support they can give to their employees.
Exactly, but casino business is a big business especially in vegas, so I think they are making enough profit which they can still spare a little amount to their employees who are asking for support, but then again, it's the employees decision.

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April 14, 2020, 11:37:35 PM
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This action should be happening in all businesses, those who truly care for their employees.
Give them a bit of assistance while government's aid is out of reach.
Unfortunately not all business are good with this, some keeps their profit and only give to their employees what is due to them.
Business is business for them, they don't use a heart here.

In times likes this, you will know how far an employer can go beyond on their responsibilities.
Not many businesses can afford, but you will see what kind of support they can give to their employees.
Exactly, but casino business is a big business especially in vegas, so I think they are making enough profit which they can still spare a little amount to their employees who are asking for support, but then again, it's the employees decision.

I just hope so that, here in our local place casino would do the same as Western country did. Here in asia, I guess casino proprietor is the wealthiest business establishment and believed to be capable of taking care the needs of their employees. That only depends on the gambling casino owners to provide their employees all of those benefits.
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April 14, 2020, 11:53:14 PM
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So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

 
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April 15, 2020, 12:23:46 AM
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So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

Easier said than done. I believed casino operators already gave support to their employees for let's say 1-2 months (just figures). If these employees are demanding more, I doubt it will be granted. But I do hope they will still continue to lend a hand at their own will like for say, once or a couple of times per month.

The problem now is if the lockdown continues and if these employees demand continuous support until everything is back to normal and let's say it was granted, operators will lose more money since there is no revenue coming and that is chaos for their workers. They are earning millions but spending also millions in operations aside from the funds allocated to donations. Casinos might only allow a few employees to come back for work or maybe will not open for service yet and that's a disaster to become unemployed after the situation got back to normal.

Their employees should use all their sources wisely because, in a time like this, we can't just demand continuous support from our companies or even to the government itself. Somehow they are still fortunate as there are people who didn't receive any support from their company. We should accept that our usual life standards will now be different.


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April 15, 2020, 04:05:41 AM
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So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

I hope the casino can give the money as that will be like a gift to their employee in these hard situations. They will be grateful and thank you to the owner if they can do that. But the casino cannot give the money every month because they now cannot running their business so perhaps, they will give the money for some month. We cannot blame the casino if they do that because they also need that money for another thing, and of course, they also have family that will need that money.

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April 15, 2020, 04:49:12 AM
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So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

I see the problem here is simple, government want a lock down to ensure that the virus will not spread further but the people think that government should also be the one providing most of their necessities which is in fact for me isn't actually just. Why? Because it is for their safety that government is taking into consideration yet they condemn the government because of it. What I can say, yes, government should provide the salary but other than that, it is only a good will for the government to provide additional support, what I mean is that, people should not just rely on the government but act and be prepared on their own as well. What if the government lose their funds right?
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April 15, 2020, 06:47:29 AM
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It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

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April 15, 2020, 09:38:44 AM
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That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.

In our country the government had ordered company to release a portion of the 13th month pay in advance, along with a certain amount of help for those worker who have suffered from the lockdown. There are comapnies who had given their employees' a month worth of salary even the company is not operational. It all depends on the company on how will they extend their help to their employees during this hardship.
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April 15, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
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I can't blame the casino owners if they aren't giving financial assistance to their employees now that the crisis has struck us.

The owners must have the responsibility to give some assistance to their employees if they know how they'd helped them to make the business a success but some are just... I don't know what term will I use but they don't want to give some assistance to them.

As for the employees, whatever happens they must have always a savings account while the are working so that if times like this will happen then they have the funds to use in the middle of the crisis. This is the problem for most of the employees. They don't know how to save. They are using their money into different expenses and some are just wasting their salary.

Either way, I'm still happy that some of the employers not only in the gambling industry but in the different companies are helping their employees. They know how to help those people who helped them in their business.

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April 15, 2020, 10:26:07 AM
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Not all businesses can afford to make zero in revenue and still afford to pay their employees when the business isn't operation. That's when the federal government comes in and offers unemployment to laid off workers. Private entities shouldn't be held liable to pay workers that were laid off for reasons outside of the business's control. On another note, running casinos isn't cheap. The amount of overhead they need to pay off is highly dependent on revenue that comes in each quarter. Many Vegas casinos can't afford to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in monthly salaries without have any source of revenue.
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April 15, 2020, 10:30:30 AM
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That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.

In our country the government had ordered company to release a portion of the 13th month pay in advance, along with a certain amount of help for those worker who have suffered from the lockdown. There are comapnies who had given their employees' a month worth of salary even the company is not operational. It all depends on the company on how will they extend their help to their employees during this hardship.
Lucky for those people who had been working into those companies but we do know that not all of them did the same thing when it comes on helping their own employees.
So this is an another story for those people who havent given yet and still struggling on finding ways on how to live or survive.For government employees, they do somehow still have salaries regularly even
they dont have any duties due to local or enhanced quarantine.Different sectors do have its own system and i consider lucky for those who have been supported or do still have income.
Its really sad to think on seeing people suffering around.

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April 15, 2020, 10:50:03 AM
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It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck,
Actually it is their obligation to 'Pay" because they have been paid for their works,in OP this is asking about support since the pandemic occurs and they have no work to do so literally this is not their obligation but being a Human and employer they must support those workers in this kind of situation.
these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.
like what i said it is  not their obligation but you are correct that Help must be for the employee since they have nothing to go now so even small help counts .
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April 15, 2020, 11:11:36 AM
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I just hope so that, here in our local place casino would do the same as Western country did. Here in asia, I guess casino proprietor is the wealthiest business establishment and believed to be capable of taking care the needs of their employees.
I think casino business if they are profitable, they are making a lot of money, whether they are located in big country or small countries.
so if they choose to give their employees some aid, they can do so.

That only depends on the gambling casino owners to provide their employees all of those benefits.
If its mandated by the law, they will sure provide it, but these employees are asking salary although they don't work, that's a different story.

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April 15, 2020, 11:18:14 AM
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That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.

In our country the government had ordered company to release a portion of the 13th month pay in advance, along with a certain amount of help for those worker who have suffered from the lockdown. There are comapnies who had given their employees' a month worth of salary even the company is not operational. It all depends on the company on how will they extend their help to their employees during this hardship.
Lucky for those people who had been working into those companies but we do know that not all of them did the same thing when it comes on helping their own employees.
So this is an another story for those people who havent given yet and still struggling on finding ways on how to live or survive.For government employees, they do somehow still have salaries regularly even
they dont have any duties due to local or enhanced quarantine.Different sectors do have its own system and i consider lucky for those who have been supported or do still have income.
Its really sad to think on seeing people suffering around.

thier only luck is when if there are concerned citizens that will help them some  . on our place many people here dont work on government and not being supported by the no work /w pay policy but people here are so good because they help each other  .

if you are working on a casinos  , that is not right if you dont get help from your company because casino is not a poor business but they make millions a day  or higher than that  . so our question is what are they going to do with those money  ?
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thier only luck is when if there are concerned citizens that will help them some  . on our place many people here dont work on government and not being supported by the no work /w pay policy but people here are so good because they help each other  .

if you are working on a casinos  , that is not right if you dont get help from your company because casino is not a poor business but they make millions a day  or higher than that  . so our question is what are they going to do with those money  ?

What theyre going to do with those money? Its none of our business and we dont have right to lecture them on what they should gonna do because even how hard you do force to tell them that they should donate nor support their employees its either they would listen or just simply ignore.In general, they dont really have that obligation because they had been paid out when they are still working but now all is suspended or stopped then its just normal for them not to pay up. Unless if the said owner is kind-hearted then they might able to get some help but if not then its unfortunate.

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April 15, 2020, 11:50:25 AM
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That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.
I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
It's easy to say the government should be covering their problems but in some third world countries, it's hard to only depend on the government knowing that the economy is not that capable of covering every need of their people. But America is a developed country, though the number of cases is rapidly increasing. Every employee still has their parts and responsibilities for their workers.

Not all businesses can afford to make zero in revenue and still afford to pay their employees when the business isn't operation. That's when the federal government comes in and offers unemployment to laid off workers. Private entities shouldn't be held liable to pay workers that were laid off for reasons outside of the business's control. On another note, running casinos isn't cheap. The amount of overhead they need to pay off is highly dependent on revenue that comes in each quarter. Many Vegas casinos can't afford to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in monthly salaries without have any source of revenue.
But knowing that casinos are very popular in Las Vegas, and is often visited by tourists and other rich people, means they are earning a lot every year. Can't they just give their bonuses like Christmas and 13th-month pay in advance because obviously, they need money right now. If they can't give them salaries for a month without work, advancing their bonuses would do.

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April 15, 2020, 02:14:53 PM
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The casino workers, same as many many of others, have only one option, to wait until the lockdown is lifted. Today, it may seem like we all are going to die of hunger, but in reality no one will let that happen. To avoid an even worse situation than COVID-19 can cause, governments will start lifting the quarantine, one by one, regardless of the epidemiological situation. Maybe 6% of the infected people will die, and that's a huge and very disturbing number, but no one can live without food, and this, of course, will be taken into account.

But that's how it can unfold in the worst case scenario. What is more likely is that the whole thing will be over in a month or two, and people, including casino workers, will return to their normal lives.

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April 15, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
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OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.
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April 15, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
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Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.


The agency that looks for the welfare of the workers should look on this matter, these casinos operators have the security of tenure and perks, they should advance their perks and benefits and only deduct it when things get better, they are not giving their employers a large amount of money, they will not go bankrupt for doing so, if they fail to support their workers government should prosecute them.

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April 15, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
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OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.
It's the free will of employers to provide help for their employees, there's no rules of laws that engaged them to comply in doing this kind works though it's a human desire to help if there's a excess from your own pockets. For now lets just believe that from this ongoing crisis more people will show interest in helping others especially those business owners who have good reserves of money to help the people who works for them.

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