Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown

[TitanGEL]

Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.

For sure that their management didn't foresee this kind of scenario, there are many people who losses their job not only physical casinos. Most of the small entrepreneurs are the one who are really affected because of the pandemic. The government should help their citizens especially those poorest lf the poor. The casinos employees should also received payments from their management in order for them to have money that they can use to spend in necessary things like food and water.

[onrise]

That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.

Smart people will understand that those who are joining now even in future they would be removed the way others have being removed before them . So either this guys will leave before it and overall when their is no stability in retention somewhere down the line it will have impact how small or big is unknown . That is why loyalty pays for people who are their from long time .

[acroman08]

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/

this kind of thing was to be expected that some employers will help their employee and some won't whether we like it or not employers are not obligated or not their responsibility to provide salary if the business is closed. but only a matter of morality if they will help their employees and those who don't help their employees will likely lose a lot of faith from their workers after this crisis over. to be honest, knowing that this is in America. their local government shouldn't have a problem providing necessities to the citizens.

[rodskee]

That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.

Though this is another story but yeah thats inhumane mate because kicking old employees with high salary and changing with another set of low paying people is against the rules of humanity.
and at any cost Employer is the one who must help their own people and not to make them suffer ,because Business is not only relying on proprietor but also with the effort and skills of employees.

[plvbob0070]

OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.

It's the free will of employers to provide help for their employees, there's no rules of laws that engaged them to comply in doing this kind works though it's a human desire to help if there's a excess from your own pockets. For now lets just believe that from this ongoing crisis more people will show interest in helping others especially those business owners who have good reserves of money to help the people who works for them.

You have a point, but they are showing no humanity towards their employees. If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.

Giving what they want is very little to the casino because they are earning a huge profit daily. But giving full salary is not good better to provide what they need . Or half of their salary daily in the casino because right now are in the situation that we need need each other.
I hope the decision of the casino owner will help their workers and help them and others too.

Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't. Though it's not necessary for them to give help, I just feel bad for the workers because unlike those rich company employers, they don't know the struggle of finding enough money to survive the whole lockdown period.

Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.

Employers are really not obliged to pay their workers when they don't work, but workers didn't even want this to happen. They can still help their employees without harming or risking the fund of the companies. Perhaps they can find other ways to help them. I think a loan would also do.

[Google+]

That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.

Though this is another story but yeah thats inhumane mate because kicking old employees with high salary and changing with another set of low paying people is against the rules of humanity.
and at any cost Employer is the one who must help their own people and not to make them suffer ,because Business is not only relying on proprietor but also with the effort and skills of employees.

indeed the skills of employees can be more value in a company but you must know that old workers who already have a lot of experience can also get out and get a lot of experience from the company and can apply anything that has been gained from the company while still working and for new people then the company will have employees who have the spirit and youth so that they can move quickly and a lot of product is created.

[kawetsriyanto]

If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.

Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't.

It depends on the financial condition of the company. For a big company that has large fund reserves, they are probably able to help their employees. While other companies may have financial problems now since there are no work activities. So, it is understandable if the companies don't give any helps to the employees.

[erep]

Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

In countries where the population is higher than the chance of getting a job, leaving work now will be unemployed. The Covid-19 has brought badness on earth that most companies decide to work unilaterally because the company does not have funds to finance employees so that some of them have experienced an economic crisis.

[ethereumhunter]

Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

In countries where the population is higher than the chance of getting a job, leaving work now will be unemployed. The Covid-19 has brought badness on earth that most companies decide to work unilaterally because the company does not have funds to finance employees so that some of them have experienced an economic crisis.

Yes, that is what happens now in many countries. But the employee can try to ask the company about the salary, and I think the company will be fair enough to their employee to give the money to them. But the employee itself cannot expect to see the company will provide another salary in the next month because how the company will pay if they don't work at all while the employee is not work in their office too.

[plvbob0070]

If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.

Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't.

It depends on the financial condition of the company. For a big company that has large fund reserves, they are probably able to help their employees. While other companies may have financial problems now since there are no work activities. So, it is understandable if the companies don't give any helps to the employees.

I'm very aware of that situation. Yes, it's hard to find a stable job but I would not endure this kind of treatment.

The casino is the heart of Las Vegas, and for sure they are earning great revenue during the whole operation they had. Helping them doesn't necessarily mean they will provide them the things they need that may put the company at the disadvantage stage. As a company, it's good to put a nice image by helping your employees, but at the same time, most businesses would not want to lose money or increase their expenses by giving it to their employees. They could have just think of other ways to help them without risking their money. I have been saying this in the thread that they can give them their bonuses (Christmas or 13th-month) in advance, or providing loans. It means during the Christmas season, employees won't be receiving any, and/or when loaning, deduct it to their monthly salary after this lockdown.

[mindrust]

Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.

I used to be ready for events like these. I had all of my money&gold out of the banking system and crypto exchanges. They used toe be all physical until last year or so. Then for some weird reason I started to take risks. Did some trades on exchanges, put the cash in a bank etc.

Hopefully this pandemic event will be an eye opener and a warning for everybody.

We should be ready for any bad event no matter how low the odds are.

The banking system can go down too and I am getting ready for that one no matter how ridiculous it seems right now.

[Quidat]

Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

In countries where the population is higher than the chance of getting a job, leaving work now will be unemployed. The Covid-19 has brought badness on earth that most companies decide to work unilaterally because the company does not have funds to finance employees so that some of them have experienced an economic crisis.

Its just normal to think that economic state of affected countries can gradually be seen and take note that we do still in few months of such lockdown or
quarantine but everything starts to mess up.Of course when theres no work then there would be no salary and come to think that government funds
arent unlimited which even if they do help out their citizens it wont really be sustainable of this one would go longer.

Help would be there but we know the reality that not all people would be catered or be given.It all varies or depend on a certain place governance.

[smyslov]

$1200 amount is not enough for everyone but it is normal for daily food and needs. Maybe governments will restrict the companies to fire the employees due to the recent lockdown but the support should be kept for covering the needs of people. For keeping the minimum impact of the global recession, the workers should look for passive income, unfortunately.

Many businesses can't really keep up with the present situation, they can do it for one or two months but three months is just too much, especially for small gambling casinos but they must get help from the national government too, some countries are giving help to companies to help their employers since these companies are also taxpayers.

[LogitechMouse]

That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

Recommending a sideline for these employees isn't a good idea. There are some problems with this though.
1. They don't have enough time and energy to do it since they are working 8 hours a day. They feel stressed when they get home so even though they have enough time but they don't have the energy then it will be useless. Probably there are some who are doing this. Working for 8 hours a day and when they get home they will work again thru online.
2. Some of these employees doesn't have the time to do it because they are only one in their home. They have to do the things in their home that can eat their time most probably. This is somewhat related to the 1st one .
For me it would be better if you have skills that you can be use to work at home so that even though times like this will happen, you will not be affected that much as you can still work even you are at home as long as you have the internet and a computer to use. These pandemic didn't affect the casino workers only but all the employees who are working under different companies but the most affected here are the ones who doesn't have any savings to use in times like this .

[carlisle1]

$1200 amount is not enough for everyone but it is normal for daily food and needs. Maybe governments will restrict the companies to fire the employees due to the recent lockdown but the support should be kept for covering the needs of people. For keeping the minimum impact of the global recession, the workers should look for passive income, unfortunately.

Many businesses can't really keep up with the present situation, they can do it for one or two months but three months is just too much, especially for small gambling casinos but they must get help from the national government too, some countries are giving help to companies to help their employers since these companies are also taxpayers.

But we are talking about Casinos in "Las Vegas" mate and not small time casino but those best in the world so for sure they can sustain even the whole year of their employees but the problem is if the employer are ready to Help them out.

and also we know how much income these casino Gets daily and how Millions coming their accounts from weekly or monthly basis so how hard to help the people in just  2 months or more?
Gambling business is the most profitable among any business specially if the company is stable and popular.

[sunsilk]

You'll actually see a company if they truly care for their employees. If they don't care at all, they only see their employees as a money-making machine and not part of the business. A caring employer treats their employees as part of the business and they are genuinely part of it.

I think it's Richard Branson's quote that I've seen who sees his employees as assets. Knowing that it's Vegas, they should help their people that's working hard for them. This is the reality, I also have a friend that works for a different industry and until now, no aid or even a "hey, how are you?" word from their recent employer.

[pakhitheboss]

This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.

[angrybirdy]

This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

[Leviathan.007]

I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.

[LogitechMouse]

I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.

I understand that the casinos have their own problems too as they are experiencing the same problem with their employees. Their business has closed therefore, they don't have any revenue for almost a month already.

I'm not expecting too for the casinos to give assistance to their employees but if they have the empathy then at least they can give some help to them even just some relief goods and a small amount of cash. I believe that casinos can get what they spent with that aspect but it will take time as the environment will not become normal yet when the virus has a cure already.

Well as for the employees, what is happening right now can be an eye opener for them to keep some of their salary as savings so that they have something to use in times like this.