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May 07, 2020, 10:56:27 PM
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i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!

Why would they pay employees that are not working?

Do you think jobs are a one way relationship? Contracts are formed based on the understanding that an employee will perform a set amount of work in return for their salary.

I can understand paying them salary in advance, but they certainly shouldn't be paid for work they'll never complete. That's just crazy.

How would you feel if you were a business being forced to pay your employees to sit around and do nothing?
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May 08, 2020, 07:51:51 AM
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In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Unfortunately, the principle "this is a business - nothing personal" most often applies.
The casino is aimed at increasing their profits, they do not create any product, so it is not so important for them to have super loyal employees.
Of course, any enterprise wants employees to want to work on it even for free and love it as their parents, but as a rule, such things happen in companies that produce products that help people.
The casino, on the contrary, can get rid of all the workers, and then hire new ones without losing much.

I think even in a service type of business, the trust and loyalty of the workers are still needed to ensure that the business is running smoothly. Because they are the one accommodating the customers.
Although you have a point that it's easier to fire the workers especially when they are at the lower position, that just does not feel right ethically. It shows how the management poorly handles this kind of situation towards their workers.

i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!

Why would they pay employees that are not working?

Do you think jobs are a one way relationship? Contracts are formed based on the understanding that an employee will perform a set amount of work in return for their salary.

I can understand paying them salary in advance, but they certainly shouldn't be paid for work they'll never complete. That's just crazy.

How would you feel if you were a business being forced to pay your employees to sit around and do nothing?
When we say paying salaries, it does not mean that they should pay their workers even without doing any labor. Of course, it is not fair to the employer as well.  So to make it kind of fair, advances or bonuses are really the best things they can do to help their workers without putting the company at the edge. They can find ways to make things work out well for the two sides.

It's just my opinion though.
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May 08, 2020, 07:58:33 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

The situation is so difficult that on one hand if certain sectors are opened than they would also have to ensure that all the rules are being obeyed and followed so that in future there is no mess created due to opening of such sectors or industries and create further more cases. Some countries where the cases are drastically reduced can think or also doing it. But still the many countries are facing the issue and daily the cases are on rising mode itself. Also, some says that in coming time the cases may even rise much more than what exists in some countries.

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May 08, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
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Also, some says that in coming time the cases may even rise much more than what exists in some countries.
In the case of the USA, that's what we are seeing now, there is an increase in a daily basis and in fact they are the number 1 with 1.2 million total infected now, it's no joke considering the increase was fast and they left other countries in terms of number of cases.

This is alarming, and they need to fully lock down if possible as it could in fact all the people as it stays longer.
I don't know, maybe they have underestimated the covid-19, because they think China were able to beat the virus, so they think they could also do the same.
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May 08, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
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In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.
Well, I know the desire that you want that casinos must pay their employees as they helped them in making their business a successful one. However, some of the casino owners are just selfish enough that they don't want to help them.

There are some casinos who are giving some assistance to their employees and that is a good move for them. Yes we need cooperation right now but the casinos doesn't have the power to sustain the lives of their employees for a long time. The employees must help themselves too.

The problem with some employees is that, they are just hoping that the company where they are working will give them some food supplies or cash assistance. They don't have any savings to be used for this crisis. One problem is that, most of the employees doesn't saving a portion of their salary but they are spending all of it and the worse is that they are spending in things that they don't need. Now they are the ones who are suffering right now.

I just wish that this will be a lesson for them that whatever happens, keep a portion of your monthly salary in a bank so that you can use it when things like this will happen. It will serve as your emergency funds.

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May 09, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
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many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.
Still, when the vaccine has been discovered and mass produced, this will improve their recovery because many people now want to end this pandemic as soon as a few months have lost a lot, including industry and jobs for the little people.
But with its return to normal, economic recovery will return to normal where many people will be rehired and people will shop again with what they want.
In my opinion you are being too optimistic, the economy is not going back to normal anytime soon, there are many businesses that have already closed their doors and their owners do not have the money to reopen their business or to create a new one so all of those jobs are lost, and even if it is obvious that things are going to improve once this healthcare crisis is resolved I'm pretty sure that many businesses are not going to hire as many people as before because they are going to want to recover the money they lost during the months they were closed.
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May 10, 2020, 03:03:56 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

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May 10, 2020, 08:51:48 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Yeah the same is happening in my country too. Slowly businesses are opening up. You cannot keep the lockdown for ever. People will have live with this virus eventually. Lockdown is causing more problem than the virus.

The poor need money to feed themselves and their families. It will be only possible if the lockdown is removed gradually so that people can work.

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May 10, 2020, 09:10:09 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.
With this movement of the government, I believe that the economy is slowly recovering and some of the employees will be back to business again although there are some places in our country that will still be on enhanced community quarantine because of the huge number of cases in their place.

With this, I just hope that those who are heavily affected right now will learn their lesson that they must keep a portion of their salary for emergencies like this Smiley.

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May 10, 2020, 09:12:41 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.
With this movement of the government, I believe that the economy is slowly recovering and some of the employees will be back to business again although there are some places in our country that will still be on enhanced community quarantine because of the huge number of cases in their place.

With this, I just hope that those who are heavily affected right now will learn their lesson that they must keep a portion of their salary for emergencies like this Smiley.

It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

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May 10, 2020, 10:28:55 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Actually government can lax their community quarantine so that the business can resume not just in Las Vegas. But there need to be restrictions and it's hard to implement restrictions based on what I've seen in our country. People still continue as if there was no virus to protect themselves. I agree with the "earn a living" argument and "bring food to the table". But this virus knows nothing about it, no colour or race, those casino workers will really risk if they are allowed to go back to work. Really hard decision for the government to make at this point.
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May 10, 2020, 10:50:05 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Yeah the same is happening in my country too. Slowly businesses are opening up. You cannot keep the lockdown for ever. People will have live with this virus eventually. Lockdown is causing more problem than the virus.

The poor need money to feed themselves and their families. It will be only possible if the lockdown is removed gradually so that people can work.
The case of lacking of money to buy food for their families, the lockdown needs to lift or to change and place it to a much lighter conditions
as there's business and employment that needs to reopen, employees needs to go back to work in order to survive.
The plan to reopen might work just to put more safety measures to ensure that the virus will not go further and to spread more.

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May 10, 2020, 11:57:56 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Yeah the same is happening in my country too. Slowly businesses are opening up. You cannot keep the lockdown for ever. People will have live with this virus eventually. Lockdown is causing more problem than the virus.

The poor need money to feed themselves and their families. It will be only possible if the lockdown is removed gradually so that people can work.
The case of lacking of money to buy food for their families, the lockdown needs to lift or to change and place it to a much lighter conditions
as there's business and employment that needs to reopen, employees needs to go back to work in order to survive.
The plan to reopen might work just to put more safety measures to ensure that the virus will not go further and to spread more.

Yes they need to go back but do you know how big the risk if they will force to go back to work and go home after the shift? They are not only risking their life but as well the life of their family to their salary for one month is not enough if all of them will get sick. But if really needed the company should impose the rule of stay in workers maybe by this they can lessen the contacts on other humans and make sure their workers are safe and can provide the needs of their families.

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May 10, 2020, 05:12:33 PM
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It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

Maybe in sports games, they will use a distance for the audience so people can still watch the sports directly. But yeah, they need to have high security to scan every people who want to watch the event.

But the problem now is how to solve the workers during this pandemic because they need to survive while they run out their money to buy their daily needs. That is what needs to be a concern for the government, and help them by giving the food for them to eat.

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May 10, 2020, 05:36:05 PM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
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May 10, 2020, 11:37:24 PM
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Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
Let's expect that we will be back to normal by next year, at least that's being realistic because as of now, there has been no news about the vaccine that it will be release to continue the business operation on its normal way.

we will have to wait, but slowly casino will return with strict measures being impose so they will survive and they can still make profit at the moment.
Casinos are one of the biggest contributor of our taxes, this industry can't die.

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May 11, 2020, 02:52:17 AM
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Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
Let's expect that we will be back to normal by next year, at least that's being realistic because as of now, there has been no news about the vaccine that it will be release to continue the business operation on its normal way.

we will have to wait, but slowly casino will return with strict measures being impose so they will survive and they can still make profit at the moment.
Casinos are one of the biggest contributor of our taxes, this industry can't die.
It plays a role when it comes to economic aspect so its impossible to think for them to die but actually on the current condition it did really being affected that much
thats why some of the casinos still opens.
This article would really be a good read up: https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/as-nevada-slowly-reopens-gaming-comeback-could-be-a-long-road

I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
They would really consider that out if this pandemic would last long.Every business do needs revenue and they would normally jump of
into things which they can able to see that they would able to profit out.This isnt only concern with gambling industry but also
into other industries as well.

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May 11, 2020, 07:27:15 AM
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Entertainment business could possibly belong to the less priority to be allowed with the situation we have. We can't really force the Government to allow it as the main priorities are the necessities, to produce goods and to make the economy stable again. As far as I know, every country has different status of COVID infections, but I also believe that every country has its own strategic plan on how to cope up with this to revive their economy. It is just that, unless the main source of income for the country is gambling, that country could possibly pursue casinos back to business such as Vegas.
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May 11, 2020, 09:16:28 AM
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It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

Maybe in sports games, they will use a distance for the audience so people can still watch the sports directly. But yeah, they need to have high security to scan every people who want to watch the event.

But the problem now is how to solve the workers during this pandemic because they need to survive while they run out their money to buy their daily needs. That is what needs to be a concern for the government, and help them by giving the food for them to eat.

That's the option propose by some sports, they like to resume with no fans or the fans just watching them on TV.

With that kind of proposal if it will be implemented, it will prevent people from getting infected as they are literally watching at home, but it will not be as profitable as the usual, but then, if they like to be back in business, they have no choice but to impose the strict measures and follow the social distancing policy, let's see if some countries will be successful in launching their sports in this kind of format.

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May 11, 2020, 11:47:54 AM
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It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

Maybe in sports games, they will use a distance for the audience so people can still watch the sports directly. But yeah, they need to have high security to scan every people who want to watch the event.

But the problem now is how to solve the workers during this pandemic because they need to survive while they run out their money to buy their daily needs. That is what needs to be a concern for the government, and help them by giving the food for them to eat.

That's the option propose by some sports, they like to resume with no fans or the fans just watching them on TV.

With that kind of proposal if it will be implemented, it will prevent people from getting infected as they are literally watching at home, but it will not be as profitable as the usual, but then, if they like to be back in business, they have no choice but to impose the strict measures and follow the social distancing policy, let's see if some countries will be successful in launching their sports in this kind of format.

Maybe that is not profitable, but at least, their audience has other entertainment that they can watch in their home. I am sure some countries will be successful in relaunching their sports to the public, and they will take care of everything to save people who want to watch the game directly. They will use a social distancing policy regarding their country law, so their people will know that they are serious about relaunching that sports.

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