Thanks theymos, Bruno has VIP status & a custom title

[eaLiTy]

Is it 100% confirmed that he died?

I feel stupid now. What is going on is a big shame and I will need to finish reading everything before having a clue. This is not real please.

Going through all the threads created around him it looked silly and in his defense he did not claim to be dead but others announced his demise  

If Bruno comes back and says these, it is a bit silly for everyone who participated in all the fund raisers.


 

Bruno I think you should see this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239632.0

That isn't real... i can assure you I'm live in the flesh

I have recovered with the help of lovely staff at my local hospital, if you care to speak on telegram i can show paper and pictures phinnaeusgage

As hilariousandco earlier mentioned i was skeptical with all these situation even though nutildah informed about his death because of the pariapan situation where the coins were moved after the claimed death and archived everything in archive.is regarding all the topics created surrounding his health and demise.

I understand the purpose why TECSHARE and OgNasty created topics in Collectibles and a signature campaign by BitcoinGirl.Club and the VIP status once he reappeared claiming he is fine and healthy everything looks silly.

I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?

There is no point in locking the account as a family member has every right to use the account after the demise but in this case Bruno came forward and said he is fine and doing well.

The situation here is everyone was gullible to believe the story he was dead.

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[NotATether]

I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?

[hilariousetc]

I'm not going to do it regularly, but I'll make an exception here and give VIP status & a custom title to Phinnaeus Gage and Gleb Gamow. However, I know that these accounts changed hands in the past, and maybe arrangements have been for this to happen again in the future; therefore, if either account ever posts in the future, I will remove this stuff from the account.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if his accounts re-activated again at some point.

hilariousandco, the prophet

I'm not a prophet. I'm an arsehole remember:

Since the funds moved on the 24th from his donation address I think it's either he never posted the donation address in the first place and it was whoever had hold of his account or his family figured out how to access his funds. I'd go with the former really.

I'm not going to do it regularly, but I'll make an exception here and give VIP status & a custom title to Phinnaeus Gage and Gleb Gamow. However, I know that these accounts changed hands in the past, and maybe arrangements have been for this to happen again in the future; therefore, if either account ever posts in the future, I will remove this stuff from the account.

It appears that the account has resurfaced and began posting. Haven't seen evidence yet that it truly is the original owner - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251074.0

Edit: His alleged proof - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251074.msg54500907#msg54500907

He posted a picture dated from 2019 as "proof".

I think someone probably has his phone. Or maybe, he had sent some pictures in his outbox.

The most likely scenario is he sold or gave his account to someone. Or it was hacked, but the timing seems a bit suspicious. The donation address thread he posted was likely done by the same person given the funds moved a couple of days ago. Seems far too much of a coincidence to me. He used the same sort of old photos before for the donation thread. Bruno probably sent a few pictures privately to people to prove he was in the hospital, maybe to solicit donations himself. One of those people could have then used the pictures for a scam. Maybe he tried to sell the account as he did before, or someone made him an offer for it. Someone finding his phone and then posting on a forum seems incredibly unlikely.

I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?

If it's 100% verified he's died then it probably should.

[nutildah]

I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?

Yes, I agree, it should be locked. Too bad the whole thing had to become such a travesty.

Everything else being speculated upon in the past 12 hours is idiotic and serves no purpose.

[xolxol]

is TMAN one of those who died? 

You tell us Sherlock - you posted this sixteen days ago:

dont worry tman is asleep forever he will never come back to this forum

That makes me a prophet amen

[LoyceV]

I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?

What if a next in kin uses the account to earn money? We may frown upon account sales, but it's not against forum rules and the account could be part of an inheritance.

[Csmiami]

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It could be locked with the custom title it had before being reactivated, and in case someone can actually prove that the account was sold to him/her or is a family member, the account would be unloccked with the custom title removed.

[nutildah]

I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?

What if a next in kin uses the account to earn money? We may frown upon account sales, but it's not against forum rules and the account could be part of an inheritance.

Definitely an impossibility at this point. Besides, would you really want that?

What we should have proposed from the beginning is that the account be locked with the VIP title. Facebook has this "In Memoriam" feature where you can have a deceased loved one's account locked with those words on the page... or else it says "Remembering Soandso...." All it requires is a submission of the obituary to Facebook. That's all take it takes to prove to normal people that someone has died.

[eaLiTy]

All it requires is a submission of the obituary to Facebook. That's all take it takes to prove to normal people that someone has died.

If the relatives of Bruno or anyone close to him could provide the death certificate and wanted to lock his account then why not lock the account. Who ever is accessing the account does know how the forum works as they edited out his threads and locked it and as far as i know his death is confirmed by some websites and i know there are users here in the forum who met him personally and i have not read anyone confirming that Bruno was really posting from his account and he died on the specific date as mentioned in the websites.

[PrimeNumber7]

I'm not going to do it regularly, but I'll make an exception here and give VIP status & a custom title to Phinnaeus Gage and Gleb Gamow. However, I know that these accounts changed hands in the past, and maybe arrangements have been for this to happen again in the future; therefore, if either account ever posts in the future, I will remove this stuff from the account.

It appears that the account has resurfaced and began posting. Haven't seen evidence yet that it truly is the original owner - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251074.0

Edit: His alleged proof - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251074.msg54500907#msg54500907

He posted a picture dated from 2019 as "proof".

I think someone probably has his phone. Or maybe, he had sent some pictures in his outbox.

The most likely scenario is he sold or gave his account to someone. Or it was hacked, but the timing seems a bit suspicious. The donation address thread he posted was likely done by the same person given the funds moved a couple of days ago. Seems far too much of a coincidence to me. He used the same sort of old photos before for the donation thread. Bruno probably sent a few pictures privately to people to prove he was in the hospital, maybe to solicit donations himself. One of those people could have then used the pictures for a scam. Maybe he tried to sell the account as he did before, or someone made him an offer for it. Someone finding his phone and then posting on a forum seems incredibly unlikely.

I don't think selling his account is consistent with the strong evidence that he died a couple of weeks after he posted asking for donations.

I see threads in the dev and tech sub all the time that are consistent with people being in possession of wallets that don't belong to them, trying to find the passphrase to steal the coin. I also see threads in the services marketplace sub of people offing huge bounties for cracking wallet passwords. My presumption has always been that these are people that purchased old hard drives/computers with encrypted wallet files and they are trying to steal the coin in the wallet files. If people do this with old computers, I don't see any reason why people wouldn't do this with found phones.

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin. If you google Bruno's name, you will find his forum handles, which might lead someone to access bitcointalk on his phone.

[Timelord2067]

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin. If you google Bruno's name, you will find his forum handles, which might lead someone to access bitcointalk on his phone.

Unless of course Bruno (on his death bed) never logged out of anything/apps emails, the phone itself... as he had lost movement in his right arm.  By not logging out the next person to handle the phone could have innocuously browsed the phone's contents (perhaps looking for porn??  Ya never know) and stumbled upon the various browsers, wallet apps/email apps even text files labelled "stuff for my relatives after I die" and passed the phone on to a friend with some tec savy who dug down and found a 2011/12 charity that Bruno tried to get going (ironically, via an account that was banned in 2018 about six weeks before Bruno then sold the Gleb Gamow UID to Suchmoon) and then concocted what we saw transpire over the last 36 hours.

[hilariousetc]

I don't think selling his account is consistent with the strong evidence that he died a couple of weeks after he posted asking for donations.

I'd think it's more likely that the person asking for donations wasn't actually Bruno, but the same scammer.

I see threads in the dev and tech sub all the time that are consistent with people being in possession of wallets that don't belong to them, trying to find the passphrase to steal the coin. I also see threads in the services marketplace sub of people offing huge bounties for cracking wallet passwords. My presumption has always been that these are people that purchased old hard drives/computers with encrypted wallet files and they are trying to steal the coin in the wallet files. If people do this with old computers, I don't see any reason why people wouldn't do this with found phones.

I haven't followed these sorts of threads closely but they're probably scammers or people who have bought a wallet from another scammer thinking there's riches to be found inside.

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin.

They probably just kept the money there for as long as possible or until the attention died down on him a bit. Seems a mighty coincidence that the funds move then his account here reactivates. Looks to me like it was just his last ditch attempt to solicit more donations.

[Timelord2067]

I'd think it's more likely that the person asking for donations wasn't actually Bruno, but the same scammer.

If you look at the stilted text of Bruno's Plead it does look as though someone else is typing (not just a "google did it for me")

Perhaps Bruno's phone was taken a while ago, and, being in hospital, never needed it.  A scammer set the "Plead" up, waited a while then came back and said he was cured.


Is anyone following the money?

[nutildah]

Perhaps he was diagnosed with an aggressive form of a brain cancer, started a fundraiser to raise money so his body could be buried near his original home, and died before he had the chance to finalize his plans.
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[snipie]

Spam about the same subject in many topics and subs...

I believe after TECSHARE intervention there is no need for more discussion:

I called the Boersma Funeral Home, and the person who answered confirmed that he knew Bruno, and he had passed. I just thought people would like to know so we can end the speculation about Bruno himself.

There is enough evidence that the account is controlled by another person claiming to be Bruno ("dead") and until proven otherwise, i call for a permaban or a lock for all Bruno's accounts (except maybe Gleb which is controlled by suchmoon normally).
Can we lock the topic?

Can we stop the useless speculation? If someone has a new evidence then he has to post it [dot]

[PrimeNumber7]

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin.

They probably just kept the money there for as long as possible or until the attention died down on him a bit. Seems a mighty coincidence that the funds move then his account here reactivates. Looks to me like it was just his last ditch attempt to solicit more donations.

I don’t see any reason why they would need to move the coin in the first place.

The rest of your post appears to be speculation and I am unaware of any factual basis to support any of it.

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin. If you google Bruno's name, you will find his forum handles, which might lead someone to access bitcointalk on his phone.

Unless of course Bruno (on his death bed) never logged out of anything/apps emails, the phone itself... as he had lost movement in his right arm.

Yes that is what I am saying I believe happened. Or he could have logged out and had his password saved in his phone to auto populate.

[DireWolfM14]

I'd think it's more likely that the person asking for donations wasn't actually Bruno, but the same scammer.

Although it's more probable than a Bruno Zombie, I still think that's quite unlikely.  The address to which Bruno requested donations be sent (1FkHCFv8PN1kerJct3RsQQpMcRoTnx2vWe) was an old address.  I checked it before sending my donation to make sure the account wasn't hacked.  I recall getting lots of google results with Phinnaeus Gage and was able to confirm that the address had been posted by Bruno as early as 2012.  Doing a search for the address now seems return all the same results, but the address is missing from the messages posted.  I think it must have been in Phinnaeus Gage's signature or personal text.
 

They probably just kept the money there for as long as possible or until the attention died down on him a bit. Seems a mighty coincidence that the funds move then his account here reactivates. Looks to me like it was just his last ditch attempt to solicit more donations.

The timing is suspicious, but there may be a reasonable explanation.  Bruno's personal effects were probably given to his relatives only recently, either after his will was read to all his relatives or the trust was disbursed.  It's normal for the state to delay probate to ensure there aren't any outstanding debts.   If that's the case then it would make perfect sense that the funds were moved at or near the same time someone got a hold of the device he used to access the forum.  

I suspect it was one of his relatives that made the recent posts after getting access to his laptop or whatever device Bruno use.  This relative saw that Bruno was respected here and was able to convince the community to contribute to his last request.  Then the greed set in, and the relative decided to take advantage of the situation.    

[suchmoon]

Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

I'm not a particularly mannerly person but this never-ending digging into dead person's matters is making even me queasy. Not that he probably cares much now but can't we just pretend to have some decorum, lock all these threads, and go back to bickering with living people who can at least bicker back at us.

[LoyceV]

Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

I'm not a particularly mannerly person but this never-ending digging into dead person's matters is making even me queasy. Not that he probably cares much now but can't we just pretend to have some decorum, lock all these threads, and go back to bickering with living people who can at least bicker back at us.

Agreed. I felt that calling the funeral home was taking it a step too far. Even though I like this forum a lot, don't forget it's just an internet forum.

Phinnaeus Gage even called it his exit scam. He either has a great sense of humor, or he didn't lie and really planned this. For what it's worth, I'm going with the great sense of humor, let him rest.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

Well, I'm still wondering personally--I don't know what to think at this point.  

TECSHARE said he called the funeral home and verified that Bruno had died.  Regardless of your opinions about TECSHARE, I believe he did as he said and unless there was a lie embedded on the funeral home's part, I have no reason to doubt Bruno is really dead.

What a strange situation.  I thought asking for burial donations was kind of weird when Bruno did that, but I wasn't thinking that there was a scam or any kind of shenanigans in his mind.  Most people have family to take care of that sort of thing, and if they don't then they probably wouldn't care what became of their remains anyway.  Then again, I've always had a strange view of what should be done with human remains after death.  Cremation seems like the most efficient way to go, or donation to a medical school.  Anyway.

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I felt that calling the funeral home was taking it a step too far.

Ah, sorry I missed your post before I made mine, because I linked to the same post.  I didn't think it was going too far.  Who really got hurt by TECSHARE calling the funeral home to verify that it was Bruno?  There was a legitimate reason to do it, and it isn't as though it was done as a prank.