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While watching a streamer of their gambling bets they showed a site where they had lines for something to do with it. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) I was appalled when I saw one of these sportsbetting sites were having odds on the covid19 virus. I didnt see the details of the bet but it couldnt have been good. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) They should lose their license if they are putting lines up for this as it not a joke or something to bet on.
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I am not sure about if they would lose their license unless they makes some serious violations. Does offering a line on the virus is considered as violation? I find it hard to see.
But I think people will really won't like like this. They will really lose their players who find this something going far from a line. They will be forced to remove that line soon.
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April 11, 2020, 04:09:57 PM |
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I am not sure about if they would lose their license unless they makes some serious violations. Does offering a line on the virus is considered as violation? I find it hard to see.
But I think people will really won't like like this. They will really lose their players who find this something going far from a line. They will be forced to remove that line soon.
If it were to do with the number of amount of lives lost by the end of it then you wouldnt consider this a violation of being a decent human being atleast? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) That should be a red flag for betting on such a site as it is. Because this alone bases your credibility to the human race right now. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Just disgusting with the number of lives lost and are still losing at this very time.
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If it were to do with the number of amount of lives lost by the end of it then you wouldnt consider this a violation of being a decent human being atleast? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I would but would the license provider? We don't know yet. I wonder which site you are talking about? Is it crypto accepting sportsbook. That should be a red flag for betting on such a site as it is. Only thing you can do is openly discuss on platform say Twitter where you can have viewers for your concern and gain support to force them to remove such disgusting betting lines. Because this alone bases your credibility to the human race right now. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Just disgusting with the number of lives lost and are still losing at this very time. ^^agree
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April 11, 2020, 04:24:47 PM |
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I don't think any bookmaker will open unethical Covid-19 markets. There is just so much more to lose than to win for them. But for example parimatch has a lot of bets regarding the virus and I think those are fine (sometimes even pretty funny ones, like Ibra joining the Belarus league etc.): https://www.parimatch.com/en/sport/raznoe/mir-karantin-2020German Bundesliga starting before June is very good value imo @1.65.
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April 11, 2020, 04:25:15 PM |
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Should we say having fun is against the ethics of gambling? Coronavirus has been used by comedians around the world likewise our musicians, even some film industries have began their stories about the said pandemic, this is just a way to Cushing the negative effects of this ravaging deadly virus. Although, this is personal opinion and shouldn't be use for crucification of my view. They're just getting their gamblers inline to having fun with the covid-19.
Well, I understand your take; joking with the coronavirus should be seen as normal thing and not that; they're saying it doesn't exist among us or is a fiction. This is just a means of relaxation for these gamblers to have fun with the covid-19.
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April 11, 2020, 04:37:28 PM |
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^^ Having covid-19 for gambling is not fun. The bookmaker might have been having their lines for when those who want to place wagers on for how many days they think it would take to have a solution such as a vaccine made. But that would be about it as to having so called fun with this situation were all in. If you could call it that. While people and their loved ones are suffering trying to bring in a couple of coins. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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I was thinking about this the other day when I remember someone creating a token about Corona Virus. It's a freaking joke to have that kind of shit being made as a project. And now people are betting on how long it would last? Or something in that sense? That's fucked up, and we know it. Don't participate in that kind of shit, it's not right, especially to the ones who are affected.
People have died because of COVID-19, don't make it worse by participating in it.
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April 11, 2020, 04:46:32 PM |
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Yeah crwth, but as you know those betting sites who offer these as prop bets have just about anything on them to wager on. But this is just going beyond the line with having this as a prop bet just so to be the first site to offer it. Only their credibility as a sportsbook is now in question here. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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April 11, 2020, 04:52:51 PM |
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^^ Having covid-19 for gambling is not fun. The bookmaker might have been having their lines for when those who want to place wagers on for how many days they think it would take to have a solution such as a vaccine made. But that would be about it as to having so called fun with this situation were all in. If you could call it that. While people and their loved ones are suffering trying to bring in a couple of coins. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) With due respect Sir, how about the said TV stations and Radios stations who announce and predict how many individuals are likely to go down six feet bellow? What about the WHO that always predict deaths on countries and continents?. We shouldn't be personal in this rather presenting facts about the Covid-19. Deaths are everywhere which is true and these are love ones and families, but, for TV stations predicting more deaths is a reality base on the high spread of this covid-19. I see no reason why gambling platforms shouldn't allow their gamblers to equally predict the deaths and survivals of this covid-19 IMO.
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I think there has been news before about the use of this pandemic, before there was one restaurant in Italy that named the cake they made with the name coronavirus but I forgot the details, even it got a lot of criticism and it is inconceivable also criticism that will get when there are gambling sites that make this pandemic a part or material for a bet or gambling. There are still sports bets that you can do right now normally and this pandemic is not very appropriate as a part of betting because indeed, this pandemic cannot be used as a means for anyone to have fun.
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Well, that was similar to what I have read in an online article that someone who had bet on the number of lives lost in America due to the COVID-19 disease. [ https://www.econlib.org/my-bet-on-covid-19-and-why-i-might-lose/ ]
Well, for me this is not a joke, we are talking about human lives and not making an odds to them. They make a count on how many lives will be lost. Indeed, wrong. We should think positively that the number of counts will less. Perhaps OP that is good if you name it here the bookies that you are talking about.
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While watching a streamer of their gambling bets they showed a site where they had lines for something to do with it. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) I was appalled when I saw one of these sportsbetting sites were having odds on the covid19 virus. I didnt see the details of the bet but it couldnt have been good. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) They should lose their license if they are putting lines up for this as it not a joke or something to bet on. got curious and search for a little bit and this is what a found https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/11964-russian-bookies-open-bets-on-covid-19-issues. apparently Russian bookies thought that amid this crisis. earning money through betting on COVID-19 issues can still be made since a lot of sporting event has been cancelled. I'm appalled at how insensitive these people are using the suffering of people to earn money. as much as I want their licence to be revoked but there are not enough legal grounds for their licence to be cancelled(but if there is that would be great).
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April 11, 2020, 08:00:22 PM |
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I don't think any bookmaker will open unethical Covid-19 markets. There is just so much more to lose than to win for them. But for example parimatch has a lot of bets regarding the virus and I think those are fine (sometimes even pretty funny ones, like Ibra joining the Belarus league etc.): https://www.parimatch.com/en/sport/raznoe/mir-karantin-2020German Bundesliga starting before June is very good value imo @1.65. I so much agree with you on the fact that there wouldn't be unethical Covid-19 markets, at least not from reputable bookies, even though there might not be legal consequences if they make them available. I checked parimatch.com and I'd agree that some of the lines are fine by me, like the possibility of WHO announcing a vaccine for the virus before the end of the year offered @ 1.75 But I'm somewhat tempted with betting that there wouldn't be US Election in 2020 @ 5.50
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Well, that was similar to what I have read in an online article that someone who had bet on the number of lives lost in America due to the COVID-19 disease. [ https://www.econlib.org/my-bet-on-covid-19-and-why-i-might-lose/ ]
Well, for me this is not a joke, we are talking about human lives and not making an odds to them. They make a count on how many lives will be lost. Indeed, wrong. We should think positively that the number of counts will less. Perhaps OP that is good if you name it here the bookies that you are talking about. Its unethical! We are talking or make a bet on how many lives would lost due to Covid.I dont know whats up to their minds on why they do make use and making it as a line for people to bet on.I understand about on betting on Vaccine availability just mentioned above^ which is considerable but betting on how many lives would cost? Its crazy...
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There is a big difference between having an ethical problem with a company and having a illegal problem with a company. I think this goes for the first one and not the second one. If you are allowing people to bet on the numbers of corona (like deaths or infected etc etc) you wouldn't really be doing something illegal as far as I know, maybe if the governments really want to they can still charge you with something, they kinda have that power unfortunately (well fortunately for this instance) but normally there is no law that I know that says you can't bet on number of deaths from a virus.
However is it ethical? Definitely not, we are talking about humanities biggest crisis in the recent years and nothing really killed people as much as this virus as far as I can remember in the past 20-30 years and this is not local neither, it is global and people are dying in almost every single country so we are talking about a problem of global magnitude. With that in mind allowing bets on number of people who will die is as low as it gets yet it is probably there because some people do bet on it, which means you can hate the book as much as you want but they are offering people what they want as well, so we should also hate the people who bet on it too.
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On one hand, I like the fact that OP didn't post a link to the bookie, no need to give them any publicity...But on the other hand i would've liked to see people calling them out for that shitty behaviour. I don't think any bookmaker will open unethical Covid-19 markets. There is just so much more to lose than to win for them. But for example parimatch has a lot of bets regarding the virus and I think those are fine (sometimes even pretty funny ones, like Ibra joining the Belarus league etc.): https://www.parimatch.com/en/sport/raznoe/mir-karantin-2020German Bundesliga starting before June is very good value imo @1.65. You weren't joking when you said "funny ones", I mean: " In April 2020, live Godzilla be spotted in China @250 odds" good value there lol ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And yeah, Bundesliga @1.65 is a no brainer, tbh. With due respect Sir, how about the said TV stations and Radios stations who announce and predict how many individuals are likely to go down six feet bellow? What about the WHO that always predict deaths on countries and continents?. We shouldn't be personal in this rather presenting facts about the Covid-19. Deaths are everywhere which is true and these are love ones and families, but, for TV stations predicting more deaths is a reality base on the high spread of this covid-19. I see no reason why gambling platforms shouldn't allow their gamblers to equally predict the deaths and survivals of this covid-19 IMO.
Bro, it's literally their job (health institutions and other experts like the ones at the JHU) to monitor the data of the curve of infections and update + predict the death toll (by making mathematical models) just so that everyone can have a better picture of the potential impact of the outbreak and the impact of the measures enforced by the govt to try to stop the spread of the virus. TV news outlets, by moral obligation, need to keep the public informed with the info the health institutions and other organizations provide about this pandemic. You think trying to guess the number of deaths is a game? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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April 11, 2020, 09:54:08 PM |
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On one hand, I like the fact that OP didn't post a link to the bookie, no need to give them any publicity...But on the other hand i would've liked to see people calling them out for that shitty behaviour.
Op should at least tell the name of said bookie who do offer such line and this is indeed a shitty behavior and they do just simply harming out their reputation not on legal aspect but towards peoples impressions. You think trying to guess the number of deaths is a game? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) No, it cant be considered to be a game yet playing or guessing out on how many peoples lives would be lost is not something we should enjoyed of. They do simply cross the border line.. For some unusual or unique line, it might be considerable but not for this one.
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April 11, 2020, 10:13:15 PM |
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I've seen similar markets(death predictions) offered in fairlay. I agree it's a bad move to put these types of markets up on their exchange since this is a very serious issue and a lot of people are struggling every day. But they probably don't care on what markets could be put up as long as they're making money on it. On the other hand I don't think there's anything we could do about it since they're inactive here.
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April 11, 2020, 11:20:28 PM |
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On one hand, I like the fact that OP didn't post a link to the bookie, no need to give them any publicity...But on the other hand i would've liked to see people calling them out for that shitty behaviour. I don't think any bookmaker will open unethical Covid-19 markets. There is just so much more to lose than to win for them. But for example parimatch has a lot of bets regarding the virus and I think those are fine (sometimes even pretty funny ones, like Ibra joining the Belarus league etc.): https://www.parimatch.com/en/sport/raznoe/mir-karantin-2020German Bundesliga starting before June is very good value imo @1.65. You weren't joking when you said "funny ones", I mean: " In April 2020, live Godzilla be spotted in China @250 odds" good value there lol ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And yeah, Bundesliga @1.65 is a no brainer, tbh. With due respect Sir, how about the said TV stations and Radios stations who announce and predict how many individuals are likely to go down six feet bellow? What about the WHO that always predict deaths on countries and continents?. We shouldn't be personal in this rather presenting facts about the Covid-19. Deaths are everywhere which is true and these are love ones and families, but, for TV stations predicting more deaths is a reality base on the high spread of this covid-19. I see no reason why gambling platforms shouldn't allow their gamblers to equally predict the deaths and survivals of this covid-19 IMO.
Bro, it's literally their job (health institutions and other experts like the ones at the JHU) to monitor the data of the curve of infections and update + predict the death toll (by making mathematical models) just so that everyone can have a better picture of the potential impact of the outbreak and the impact of the measures enforced by the govt to try to stop the spread of the virus. TV news outlets, by moral obligation, need to keep the public informed with the info the health institutions and other organizations provide about this pandemic. You think trying to guess the number of deaths is a game? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) That is exactly why I did not put the sites name as I didnt want them to get any traffic and that is why I didnt even go there either after seeing the page being streamed earlier today by someone who was using them for their sports bets. They were disgusted by those lines offered on this site as well which I will not be mentioning from having so much things going on with this virus worldwide right now. I would in a month if there is a glimmering light of hope we are getting better as a society and not tolerate such nonsense as this and having people defending them for putting up whatever they want to bet on.
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