[POLL] Should I donate the Known Alts Donation funds to Bruno's plea?

[Timelord2o67]

Time for a poll:

Should I donate the BTC 0.019 Known Alts Donation funds to Bruno's plea?


Background:

I hadn't realised that Bruno was an early scam investigator.  Due to the agrivation by one or two former investigators of the Known Alts thread, I feel the best thing that can be done is to use the funds to support someone in need.

[Plead] Phinnaeus Gage's User Moniker Manifested Due to a Malignant Brain Tumor


The Poll is open to all members of the forum and will run until the first of May.

[BayAreaCoins]

Let the dead bury the dead.

He's gone and cremated.  Any further donations seem pointless. 

Sorry if that sounds cold.

[PrimeNumber7]

I would make an attempt to confirm his next of kin will actually be able to access the coin and that his next of kind would be able to use it for his wishes.

If you are unsure if they will be able to access the coin, or if you know they cannot access the coin, you might want to contact them and arrange for an alternate donation address after confirming they are agreeable to something like this.

[Timelord2o67]

Let the dead bury the dead.

He's gone and cremated.  Any further donations seem pointless. 

Sorry if that sounds cold.

I think people have misread what was written about Bruno being cremated. I'll be home in a few hours and hunt out the quote.

[TwitchySeal]

I voted 100%.
Just make sure wherever you send it, it goes to someone that will be able to access and use it.

[hd49728]

Bruno is a long time user of bitcoin so I am sure he knows what he have to do for those addresses he gave us as donation targets. I believe he did all those necessary guide steps (or at least keys to get access) to his loved ones and help they know how to get access to those addresses. Anyway, it is only my belief and could be wrong.

Donation fund has not yet been moved / touched does not mean that his loved ones don't know how to access it. Maybe they decide to keep those funds for a long time and maybe it comes from the guide of Bruno. But if you want to make sure that your donation will not go into the air, you can try to find and contact to his family members and get confirmations from them.

In my opinion, you can make donations today, or next month, it does not make difference if we know that donation balance has still been far from what Bruno asked for community help. In contrast, I admit that if someone don't do this in coming weeks, they will highly not do this months later, and it sucks. So having confirmations from his family members is a must thing for now.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Will support this definitely. Done voting, I do hope OP could somehow connect or contact any of his beloved family to confirm that they can still access the funds Bruno gave us. The money will help his loveone as this grave news surely affect them too.

For someone like a lot of contributions here in forum, should not deprived of all the help he can get from people who appreciated him. I may not known him unlike others but you can confirm how valuable he is for long time users here.

[SFR10]

Should I donate the BTC 0.019 Known Alts Donation funds to Bruno's plea?

Regardless of this only fulfilling a small portion of his final request, you should still donate it to him ^[IMO] since it's at least one positive way of spending those funds and I think he deserves it with the number of contributions he had for this community.
- I voted for yes but another good reason worth mentioning:

Do you think Bruno asked for donations, just to see them get wasted for ever?
How about the scenario where a friend or a lawyer turns up to his daughter's doorstep - in many years from now - with our donations?

I believe we should not contact the family, but respect Bruno's final wish instead.

[UserU]

I wouldn't donate it unless there is a way to confirm that any of his relatives have access to the funds. It would be a waste if you donate it while knowing that the funds will be lost.

This. What are the chances his relatives or family would bother accessing Bitcointalk, let alone a fundraiser here for him?

[Lauda]

Good attempt at pocketing some merit.

I wouldn't donate it unless there is a way to confirm that any of his relatives have access to the funds. It would be a waste if you donate it while knowing that the funds will be lost.

Answer was always obvious.

[hacker1001101001]

I wouldn't donate it unless there is a way to confirm that any of his relatives have access to the funds. It would be a waste if you donate it while knowing that the funds will be lost.

Guess it's already confirmed here that his family has access to the donation address.

[hilariousetc]

Personally I wouldn't send anything until you know that you're not just sending it directly into a black hole. Why don't you donate it in his honour to another charity? That would seem more apt in my opinion. There's millions of other charities and people around the world that could do with some help right now and a fair few accept bitcoin directly.

I wouldn't donate it unless there is a way to confirm that any of his relatives have access to the funds. It would be a waste if you donate it while knowing that the funds will be lost.

Guess it's already confirmed here that his family has access to the donation address.

Confirmed by who? Some random no-name account? I wouldn't believe anything that accounts says without some evidence. People have questioned his legitmacy:

I've contacted the family and did one more donation. They have access to the crypto addresses.

Many of you told me that we shouldn't do it, but I had to know if they have all they need. ATM costs are mostly covered, I can't give more details as it won't be fair.

I never met him or cared about him or his work, but only the fact that a dying person asks for the money to get his body to his homeplace made me sad. I had the same story with my father.

I hope this is helpful for some.

Pardon my curiosity,
would you be able to tell us more about you being able to contact the family?
Or at least to prove your sayings by providing us the TX of your donation, and if possible sign a message from the same btc address your "donation" came from.

I really want to believe you, I do, I've been wearing his signature since day one.
Should you be able to prove what you say, we may see more donations being sent to Bruno's family.

Thanks

No, not at all. I actually don't want and I don't care you are wearing it. I also had a text created by a member for some days but I realised it is useless as the signature is not noticable for my rank.

And regarding my donation, neah. I don't want to, not right now at least nor have the interest. It is a good ammount from my point of view and I have no interest in making it public.

If you have the interest contact the family and they will probably let you know if you say my name M.

Probably if you look at the first post I did in this topic, you can find my first donation and my address

Just can't believe you guys, shilling with RIP for days and what you get now is this.. lame

[nutildah]

Personally I wouldn't send anything until you know that you're not just sending it directly into a black hole. Why don't you donate it in his honour to another charity? That would seem more apt in my opinion. There's millions of other charities and people around the world that could do with some help right now and a fair few accept bitcoin directly.

I wouldn't donate it unless there is a way to confirm that any of his relatives have access to the funds. It would be a waste if you donate it while knowing that the funds will be lost.

Guess it's already confirmed here that his family has access to the donation address.

Confirmed by who? Some random no-name account? I wouldn't believe anything that accounts says without some evidence.

What, you don't believe the same account who just wrote this in a thread titled "Paying whatever you can salvage to blow my head off cause life's a bitch"?

Send me a pm on telegram: @vmatasari.

Maybe I can help you somehow.

Or who just applied for a BTC loan after saying he donated to Bruno twice?

/s, if it needs to be said.

I tried alluding to the fact that his family was aware of the donations that had been made in his name. I also recommend that no more donations be made to his addresses. I knew Bruno personally and have been in contact with a family member. That's about all I can say. If you need specifics for whatever reason then you can PM me.

[tranthidung]

I tried alluding to the fact that his family was aware of the donations that had been made in his name. I also recommend that no more donations be made to his addresses. I knew Bruno personally and have been in contact with a family member. That's about all I can say. If you need specifics for whatever reason then you can PM me.

For a legendary bitcoiner like Bruno, I expected he left all details that needed to access wallet with the donation address he gave us and I am glad to know that is exactly what he did. Thank you for your reveal, nutildah.

As being said, I don't know him, on the forum and personally but I am glad that he has gotten big support from the community. Maybe he is smiling.

[hilariousetc]

I tried alluding to the fact that his family was aware of the donations that had been made in his name. I also recommend that no more donations be made to his addresses. I knew Bruno personally and have been in contact with a family member. That's about all I can say. If you need specifics for whatever reason then you can PM me.

Do you know whether they do or don't have access to that wallet? It sounds like they might not or haven't figured out how to gain access yet from what you said.

I tried alluding to the fact that his family was aware of the donations that had been made in his name. I also recommend that no more donations be made to his addresses. I knew Bruno personally and have been in contact with a family member. That's about all I can say. If you need specifics for whatever reason then you can PM me.

For a legendary bitcoiner like Bruno, I expected he left all details that needed to access wallet with the donation address he gave us and I am glad to know that is exactly what he did. Thank you for your reveal, nutildah.

As being said, I don't know him, on the forum and personally but I am glad that he has gotten big support from the community. Maybe he is smiling.

Well you would hope so but I think you're making some big assumptions and there's probably lots of things that could go wrong with transferring ownership of someones coins when they're deceased. For people not familiar with bitcoin it can seem like an alien technology sometimes. I know most of my family would probably struggle even if I left everything written down to the T on how to recover them. All it takes is one wrong character written down wrong either from your password or mnemonic and they're going to be locked out. As for Bruno hopefully he did leave them with everything they need but in his last thread he did mention he had trouble using his hands and I'm surprised he left creating that thread so late if he knew he didn't have much time left. We also don't know for certain if that was him making the posts. The images he posted are from December last year. Multiple people have had access to that account over the years and someone could have easily made that post with or without his consent or involvement.

I have lost use of my right hand. It took me two days to pen this PO.

[iHodler]

This will be a really nice thing to do.

If you are 100% sure that the money will go to the user in need, then go for it.

Also congrats for the initiative of donating!

[Timelord2o67]

Irony:

I knew Bruno personally and have been in contact with a family member.

You want us to take your word that you've spoken to Bruno's family, but tell us not to believe another user who makes the same claim.  

This will be a really nice thing to do.

If you are 100% sure that the money will go to the user in need, then go for it.

Also congrats for the initiative of donating!

Thanks for your good wishes, I have no doubt Bruno had a plan in place prior to penning his plea, one component of that plan would be the recovery of the funds (at the right time) by the person it was intended for.

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Assuming of course it's not a "brain" wallet...

[examplens]

Personally I wouldn't send anything until you know that you're not just sending it directly into a black hole. Why don't you donate it in his honour to another charity? That would seem more apt in my opinion. There's millions of other charities and people around the world that could do with some help right now and a fair few accept bitcoin directly.

I wouldn't donate it unless there is a way to confirm that any of his relatives have access to the funds. It would be a waste if you donate it while knowing that the funds will be lost.

Guess it's already confirmed here that his family has access to the donation address.

Confirmed by who? Some random no-name account? I wouldn't believe anything that accounts says without some evidence. People have questioned his legitmacy:

I do not think there is a possibility to be 100% sure that all funds from the donation will finish in the right place. Bruno did not leave here such a possibility, considering that he was prepared for this outcome. He was an experienced person and I personally believe he provided a way for someone from his family to have access to these funds. Likewise with his Bitcointalk accounts.
one of the best scam buster, would not leave it unsafe where they need to write a few words on paper.

Unfortunately, we can't change anything here, we can no longer help him if it was once possible, I'd rather divert money to save someone's life. I saw a few charity initiatives here.
Whatever. OP, I believe in your best intentions but I think this must be your decision or wait for some time, maybe we will hear something from Bruno's account successor.

[TECSHARE]

We also don't know for certain if that was him making the posts. The images he posted are from December last year. Multiple people have had access to that account over the years and someone could have easily made that post with or without his consent or involvement.

This is certainly a possibility, but the odds of some one else timing this so closely with his death seem pretty slim. Con artists also have some very distinct tells as well when they are running a con, and I didn't see any serious red flags in any of his postings. I do agree though it is probably a good idea to stop sending coins to his addresses though until it is absolutely verified his family has access.

[hacker1001101001]

I tried alluding to the fact that his family was aware of the donations that had been made in his name. I also recommend that no more donations be made to his addresses. I knew Bruno personally and have been in contact with a family member. That's about all I can say. If you need specifics for whatever reason then you can PM me.

Do you know whether they do or don't have access to that wallet? It sounds like they might not or haven't figured out how to gain access yet from what you said.

I see your argument about his family members being not able to handle or use those crypto funds properly or take advantage of it as intended. I could imagine many people's around the world thinking it as an alien tech.

Yes, from nutildah's statements about the funds it seem that there is something worng regarding the access of donation funds to his family as he recommends not donating further, but it even indicates that they are aware of it.

I don't see why it is so hard or not ethical for users to just give an clear statement about "if his family can use those crypto funds or not as intended by him". I can't see any potential harm in confirming it publicly.