Cheating or Not?

[Towerbreeze]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

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[khiholangkang]

It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

[Mpamaegbu]

We have experienced a dozen and one of such altitude here too. Sadly, there aren't any repercussions or punishment for such an act yet here. I guess it's because promoters (like you called them) are always left to themselves without any control from admins here to escrow tokens from the start of any bounty. It is most rampant with bounties managed by newbie accounts and untrusted managers.

[zero714309]

Its not talking about cheating but you should always remember they can change rules anytime (this also written in almost all bounty). This one sometimes make us desperate but we cant do anything,just follow them if the reward is worth it enough

[xSkylarx]

This not new in campaigns and sometimes it is stipulated on the rules that "rules are subject to changes." There is nothing people can do, but believe me, this will reflect on the project itself just in case they cheat on the bounty payments

[zero714309]

It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

You right. But sometimes some bounty hunter dont even care about this rules. If we join campaign we should all the rules so we can anticipate for bad possibility.

[batang_bitcoin]

Its not talking about cheating but you should always remember they can change rules anytime (this also written in almost all bounty). This one sometimes make us desperate but we cant do anything,just follow them if the reward is worth it enough

He's right. If the thread indicates that they all have the right to replace any of the rules, they can do it freely. And upon joining, you have agreed to that term and aware that anytime they can replace that rule. So, if the bounty says that they don't have KYC then think that anytime they will implement it because of the one rule that they have said. They didn't guarantee about the no kyc and it's also part of the stunt so that many will be attracted to help them advertise their project.

[Jocuserious]

Do you have check bounty rules before joining any bounty? Actually if team do it mention before'' we can change bounty rules'' then they can do at anytime. So we can't do anything right now, even when you want participate a bounty then try to read bounty rules. (It's better)
Therefore, some unless project have games rules because after long time later they making announcement'' Every bounty Hunter need pass kyc''
Actually they do not paid bounty amount then their published announcement about kyc after many days later.

[XCANA]

That's not a cheat from the bounty campaign manager neither from the project team. Issue of such can be avoided by the bounty hunters when they enforce their bounty right on this forum by compelling their bounty campaign manager either escrow their tokens or sign undertaken to pay when rules of the Bounty change. Its time to take the bull by it horn this time because we have experienced this several times on the forum.

Though, for those who can't do KYC when require by the project should quit doing bounties to save their time and resources.

[bitkanu]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

You should read the rules that already made by team carefully and when it was saying when the team can perform a change to the rules based on their situation and that will not be considered as a cheat caused by they have made it based on their situation. I think that you must try to read the rules again.

[Ucy]

It's probably not cheating if the kyc was impose on them unexpectedly. But they shouldn't have gone to exchange that requires kyc for the sake of hunters who expect "no kyc" they were promised.
By the way, did you fully understand what the project owners said concerning kyc before you started working for them? If they said with certainty that kyc will not be allowed and later required it then you know they are wrong. There probably should be some consequences.

[Kezacky]

in essence all of that has become a decision of the project itself. I mean the team or manager of gifts has the right to change project rules at any time.
and this is the reason why you should always monitor the project that you are taking part in, both in the forum and the telegram channel so that you do not miss the latest information from the project.

[Question123]

I think the team is their fault and not the particioants because first of all you said that they join because they did not required KYC in the first place but after that they need to pass KYC a particpants need to ask them why they now requiring it is totally unfair.

Maybe the participants are scared to pass the identity they have because there is a lot of people who use the information of others to do a scamming.

[irixo10]

Well, I understand your point, but what can one do than to comply; this is now a trending event and when you ask to know why there is a change in rules you will be remained that "the bounty manager and team can change the rules". So I think, one should be prepared for anything both from the bounty manager and the team in order not to be at the receiving end or miss out after a long period of time.

[btcltcdigger]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

While yes, I agree, some projects have used KYC as a means to cheat participants, you have to look at the other side as well.
Around 30% of bounty participants are fake/alt accounts, and by using KYC, the projects hope to filter them out.

Also, in some campaigns, alot of bots join some easy campaigns like telegram or twitter, so kyc is the only way to remove them

[Eclipse26]

It is not cheating. They are making adjustments more likely for the betterment of the project and for the bounty participants themselves. I think, adjustments of as such is to avoid multiple accounts. KYC requires information that would more likely assure that a single account is just linked to an invidual . Those who would be complaining with the rules are more likely the ones who are not following the rules, as simple as that. Sending of KYC won't cost you much of your time so things should be fine. I did find it hard before but when I realized that some participants are abusing signature campaigns or bounty projects , I do now agree to such adjustments.


Also, bounty managers are capable of making adjustments and changes in which for them would make the projects their handle, better, which makes this valid.

[YOSHIE]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Can you provide the project link,
What project is that...!
Are you talking about the main rules not KYC, after the project is completed plus KYC is applied...! That means...instead they send tokens with the Kyc process.

If so what is the name of the project,,,and who manages the project, can you give ANN here.
I often see projects like that, at the end of the scam.

If, proven they are cheating or cheating, the place deserves reputation.

[Impacto]

Hunters are not insured. So they are liable to face any changes in rules in any campaign. Every campaign do have a special note on their thread that they have the right to change terms anytime they like. Although such things are not good, but there is nothing hunters can do.

[Towerbreeze]

I think the team is their fault and not the particioants because first of all you said that they join because they did not required KYC in the first place but after that they need to pass KYC a particpants need to ask them why they now requiring it is totally unfair.

Maybe the participants are scared to pass the identity they have because there is a lot of people who use the information of others to do a scamming.

Thanks, I believe changing NO to YES is cheating, once a bounty campaign said there is no need for KYC they shouldn't try changing that again, many bounty hunters promote projects because they have no KYC requirements, ultimately you waste their time for nothing

[Farma]

You have to familiarize yourself with that friend. a few years after ICO, quite a lot of devs really liked to change the rules they made, and I felt that it was a bad decision, because it was not professional. but, you must still follow their conditions. cheating or not, only you can decide.