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May 12, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
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For me it is clear cheating, because first - in such way they will cut the number of rewards, second - they will collect your data. If they are acting in such way, they easily can continue their cheating. Or for example - sell their database. Anyway i am trying to stay away from such bad players.
Yes, it does look like a very obvious cheating, and everyone does try to stay away from bad players, but we also often get stuck into their strategies, because basically they have a very sweet strategy so that everyone can easily be attracted to them.
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May 12, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
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For me it is clear cheating, because first - in such way they will cut the number of rewards, second - they will collect your data. If they are acting in such way, they easily can continue their cheating. Or for example - sell their database. Anyway i am trying to stay away from such bad players.
How come that it becomes cheating?

As I understood, the bounty that he participated was not requiring them to undergo KYC, the one that requires them is the exchange where they will be eligible to sell their token. This KYC is not part of the scope of the project because the exchange was not developed together with the project.


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May 12, 2020, 10:13:47 PM
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For me it is clear cheating, because first - in such way they will cut the number of rewards, second - they will collect your data. If they are acting in such way, they easily can continue their cheating. Or for example - sell their database. Anyway i am trying to stay away from such bad players.

It doesn't cheating! How can you say it cheating ?
As well as i know,Whenever you follow a bounty program it means you agree there will be a rule that will change sometime.
Maybe they change the rules and make decision about kyc is to avoid cheaters from bounty campaign.
I think is okay to do KYC if the exchange site or bounty program is legit

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May 13, 2020, 01:16:14 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


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May 13, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
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Have you ever read any bounty thread carefully??  I'm sure, you didn't. They always mention that "team reserves the right to make any changes of this content anytime" or  "No Need KYC but can be required by team if need". That means they have right if they think they want to kyc But i think they should ask kyc after confirming once "no need kyc".

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May 13, 2020, 12:43:33 PM
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Every project has rules that apply and must be followed by participants, related to the changes in regulations that are in progress or completion, their management team may have sat down together regarding changes and policies. All decisions in their hands.
Agree, All decisions depend on them. And we won't be able to change anything, if we don't accept their rules, we can leave and take part in other campaigns.

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May 14, 2020, 01:03:22 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
We should know that the dev team and the bounty manager have the right to change the rules. We must accept all the risks even though at the beginning they did not require KYC. If the reward is not much, it's better to ignore KYC, your personal identity is more important.

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May 14, 2020, 01:07:29 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



It is an unfair situation that is done towards bounty hunters, and this is also a reason why i stayed back alittle from bounties and focused on gold project for awhile.
Let us continue to find worthy projects to promote, and hope we do not get to a cheating project that will refuse to pay bounty rewards.
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May 14, 2020, 02:55:48 AM
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For me it is clear cheating, because first - in such way they will cut the number of rewards, second - they will collect your data. If they are acting in such way, they easily can continue their cheating. Or for example - sell their database. Anyway i am trying to stay away from such bad players.
Some projects abuse the process and we cant do something about it. But legit projects just making sure that the rewards will be received properly by the users. Normally KYC is not supposedly impose but some hunters are busy with cheating the campaign, team feels the needs to do the process to avoid such giving rewards to those who are not really work hard for the promotion and only just taking advantage the real hunters.

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May 14, 2020, 03:06:20 AM
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For me it is clear cheating, because first - in such way they will cut the number of rewards, second - they will collect your data. If they are acting in such way, they easily can continue their cheating. Or for example - sell their database. Anyway i am trying to stay away from such bad players.
Some projects abuse the process and we cant do something about it. But legit projects just making sure that the rewards will be received properly by the users. Normally KYC is not supposedly impose but some hunters are busy with cheating the campaign, team feels the needs to do the process to avoid such giving rewards to those who are not really work hard for the promotion and only just taking advantage the real hunters.
That's right, sometimes a lot of people cheat on bounties and create multiple accounts to follow bounties, maybe with the KYC they will know and reduce cheating. but if you want to keep your documents better off not taking part in projects that require KYC, there are plenty of projects out there that don't require sending personal data
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May 14, 2020, 03:28:04 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


bounty managers are sometimes cursed by bounty hunters because they change the original plan. but they are also required by project owners to implement KYC, which is a must. Therefore, we need to be mentally prepared to perform KYC at any time. because between the project and we have no commitments, they can change the conditions at any time. This is the risky nature of this job.


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May 14, 2020, 05:06:29 AM
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It's not cheating, but it is misleading! Adding new rules by the team often happens, sometimes not because of the team, it's because they were not ready and prepared, so they stumbled upon some new regulations in the country where they are operating, and they had to add KYC, or they would be forced to pay fines or even close the project! Changes can be regulatory, when they add new rules, but changes can also be technical, anyway the team can be forced to adopt new rules or to end the project! If you choose between these two it's better to add some new rules and continue with project than to abandon the project.

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May 14, 2020, 05:58:22 AM
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This is not new in campaigns and it depends on the rules that have been implemented from the beginning. It is neither a scam from the bonus campaign manager nor the project team. You should carefully read the rules that the team has implemented carefully, and when saying that the group can make rule changes based on their situation.

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May 14, 2020, 06:22:47 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


Passing KYC is not the worst thing that might happen while investing in a project. Getting useless tokens worth nothing after investing is much worse tbh.
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May 14, 2020, 07:27:34 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



Cheating it is in my opinion because already it was stated that there won't be any kyc but at the end of the campaign they now request kyc just to spite hunters, if you look at it, many hunters only join campaigns that don't require kyc (maybe because they don't have the required kyc document) and they can receive their reward without any problem,
But when you decide to introduce kyc after saying there is no kyc is clear cheating hunters of their reward which is bad.

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May 14, 2020, 12:04:26 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



Cheating it is in my opinion because already it was stated that there won't be any kyc but at the end of the campaign they now request kyc just to spite hunters, if you look at it, many hunters only join campaigns that don't require kyc (maybe because they don't have the required kyc document) and they can receive their reward without any problem,
But when you decide to introduce kyc after saying there is no kyc is clear cheating hunters of their reward which is bad.
I think there's alot if bounty campaigns with terms of condition that can be changed anytime, i already experienced this before, people should read the terms of condition first before joining the campaign, developers exploit this condition just to fuck with bounty hunters and bounty hunters can't even do anything about it.
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May 14, 2020, 11:18:28 PM
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it does not violate the rules if they can change the rules based on their needs. Well, I know that many people don't like changing policies, even I don't like it when things change at the end of a sale. however, if it has a clear reason, I think it's only natural. as long as they still maintain the quality of the token, and paying it is enough. cheating is when they always postpone the time of payment and make it difficult for those who will be paid.
Changing the rules is annoying, especially with KYC. I am reluctant to do it if the rewards are not comparable. The classic reason for the dev team and the bounty manager is to eliminate cheaters or multi-accounts, every time that reason is given, I always wonder: why haven't they implemented it since the beginning of the bounty period?

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May 14, 2020, 11:29:27 PM
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It must be admitted that some projects campaigns are cheating, which is sad at least there are about 70% based on the results of my research
do positive projects cheating. In a number of ways they are developer projects cheating on bounty hunters. And unfortunately there are no
consequences for projects that do so.

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May 14, 2020, 11:42:58 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


In as much as it seems like teams are going against their set out rules when they comes up with new set of rules at the end of the campaign, i think they do cover some extra rights to make rules and amendments through the discretion they do put up in the bounty rules that the teams holds the right to change or amend the rules that will protect the interest of their project. However, bounty managers and team members have come to discover that hunters do avoid bounties with kyc so they tends to apply it at the end of the rules now
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May 15, 2020, 03:28:11 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



It will not be considered as cheating as long as the project details posted by the campaign manager stated that "we have the rights to change the project details anytime" because sudden changes do really happen within the span of project promotion due to some reasons that is discussed between the project team and the campaign manager. You should always be aware that changes can do happen so always check up the project details every time. Reading all the project details must be done so that you are aware of whatever will happen. But it might come to think that somehow it can be considered cheating once changes happen without prior notice and at the very end of the campaign but the rules are being set by the team and the manager so they do have the rights to create sudden changes. We must just be keep in touch so that we can be updated in any unexpected changes.
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