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October 06, 2020, 09:27:36 AM
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In my opinion this is not cheating, because there are so many projects like that, at the beginning of the regulation they didn't have to use KYC to get it, but after that they have the right to change the rules they had before, maybe you didn't read all the rules they gave in the project thread. That's why before you join a project, you have to read all the rules they set there so as not to misunderstand the project rules.
sometimes the hunters do not read in detail the terms and conditions that apply before joining...
It's not unusual anymore when project developers change their rules, it's all back to us participants whether we want to follow the change in campaign rules or not.



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October 06, 2020, 12:41:41 PM
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Despite the terms and conditions, which might or might not have been read minutely, i dont think one can pull them or even call it cheating, because i think what you are mainly concerned with here is if something can be done about it. Right now crypto comes with such a broad spectrum of possibilities and risks, that one just needs to take a situational call, with sudden changes being a given.
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October 14, 2020, 09:43:24 AM
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KYC requirement is totally bullshit in my opinion. Crypto market is considered to be an anonymous ecosystem. Sharing personal data is ridiculous. Especially when we have to share them on internet with the crew that we do not even know.

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October 14, 2020, 09:54:33 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


It is not new to me specially that in our industry, cheating always occur.
Actually, it is the problem that we deal always in projects even before. They just let us to create and pass KYC so that there are delays in the distribution of tokens in our wallet. But at the end of this, we will not receive any amount to them because they deceived us. Unfortunately, there is no consequences for these projects rather than to make scam accusation to them.

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October 14, 2020, 10:56:09 AM
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In my opinion this is not cheating, because there are so many projects like that, at the beginning of the regulation they didn't have to use KYC to get it, but after that they have the right to change the rules they had before, maybe you didn't read all the rules they gave in the project thread. That's why before you join a project, you have to read all the rules they set there so as not to misunderstand the project rules.
I thought so too.
this can't be said to be cheating, sometimes they also write in their thread that they can change their rules.
so I thought what they did was okay.

if we follow their bounty, we only need to be actively following their progress via their telegram or thread. so, if anything like a change to the rules happens we will know.
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October 14, 2020, 11:06:43 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


Make sure you read all the rules of the project. Most of the time they include rules saying they can change the rules of project. Maybe they to adjust something to improve the project or there is really a need for it to be done. So you have to follow it. Besides, it is stated on the rules though it seems to be conflicting, but what important is they will compensate you after your work and compliance to them.

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October 14, 2020, 11:19:57 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


Make sure you read all the rules of the project. Most of the time they include rules saying they can change the rules of project. Maybe they to adjust something to improve the project or there is really a need for it to be done. So you have to follow it. Besides, it is stated on the rules though it seems to be conflicting, but what important is they will compensate you after your work and compliance to them.

The thing here is that theres nothing you can do if the team decides to alter out rules in the end of the campaign.Sounds shady right? but you wont have any choice or options but to deal with it.

Basing of into the problem about having no KYC but the tokens ends up on an exchange that requires KYC? I cant say its cheating on some sort because exchange rules about KYC is different and the
team itself isnt responsible for such rule or terms on said platform this is why we cant point out fingers that theyre cheating.

As long you do get paid or do make up some search too if that platform is owned or connected to them then thats a clear sign that they are just trying to fool people and since people
do hate KYC then they would just simply ignore and dont mind about their rewards.

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October 14, 2020, 11:20:29 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


This isn't cheating friend, No KYC doesn't mean they can't ask bounty hunters for KYC, sometimes to avoid cheaters few bounties ask for KYC and also every bounty rules can you changed, if you read carefully you will see this rules on every bounty campaigns, rules can be changed at any time.

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October 14, 2020, 11:45:11 AM
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Every forums has is own rules and once you disobey the rules,they put on ground it seem as if they are cheating you not knowing you disobey one of the rules in the platform. In every forum in altcoinstalk there's some one who is monitoring the forum to check as a manager or adm if any one disobey the rules of the forum and to know the penalty he or she will face.
I guess is not cheating if you disobey the rules that guide the forum. Many sure before you join any bounty campaign forum ensure you follow their rules to the end of the campaign.

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October 14, 2020, 11:45:32 AM
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I think it will not be seen as cheating if the person who manages the campaign has rules that would say that they have the right to change the project details anytime, I think due to the uncertainty of the bounty and the volatility of cryptocurrencies in general. The bounty participant should be aware of the possibility of changes happening within the rules of the bounty project and is ready and should be ready to make the necessary adjustments if changes do happen. If the changes happen at the end of the campaign or during the distribution of bounties to the participants, then the odds of them making a run for it would now be obvious. But also the eventuality of a failed project is also inevitable for some and many bounty hunters would resort to selling their bounties as soon as they can for a quick buck.

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October 14, 2020, 11:56:07 AM
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Maybe a little discouragement on the part of bounty hunters but we should know that the team and staffs has the right to change their bounty rules in the end of the bounty campaign. It's not cheating i think but it is discouraging because some bounty hunters tend to join because of no kyc but in the end it requires and it can be difficult to some participants to make kyc maybe because of lack of identification and etc.
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October 14, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
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KYC requirement is totally bullshit in my opinion. Crypto market is considered to be an anonymous ecosystem. Sharing personal data is ridiculous. Especially when we have to share them on internet with the crew that we do not even know.
that's why we have to be more careful with personal data. because personal data is important and very dangerous if fell to the bad guy.

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October 14, 2020, 12:33:47 PM
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I have also joined bounty campaigns before with promises like that. I did a lot of effort performing tasks but eventually the manager, change the rules and KYC is required to received the stakes. For projects that I felt have great potential I was forced to submit KYC. Others I just ignored and moved on. I have accepted that joining bounty has risks involved.

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October 14, 2020, 03:24:35 PM
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Some yes actually make last minute changes to the rules and some even make worst even than that like what clipx did. After bounty ended the team asked bounty hunters to go through kyc but right after all kyc had been done, they announced that they would not list or push through project leaving a the hunters in disgust because for robbing their identity. Get used to it, you'll see more of that coming.
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October 14, 2020, 03:28:51 PM
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It's so funny, I see projects like that very often. they were really cheating at the beginning, they didn't say they had to be kyc in order to increase the community and promotion they got, after the end they changed the rules arbitrarily as required by Kyc with long-winded reasons.
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October 14, 2020, 03:56:21 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



Such project giving tokens after bounty ends and no passing kyc except for those projects are not willing to do kyc. But if you send it to exchanger that available that is available for kyc and not for the project.

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October 14, 2020, 05:15:11 PM
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I dont know i think it dependa on the rules project it self. If they stated from beginning that they can change rules so they do nothing wrong. It is really important to make a decision before participate on any project. Read rules carefully & if something going wrong you can quit anytime.

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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Such project giving tokens after bounty ends and no passing kyc except for those projects are not willing to do kyc. But if you send it to exchanger that available that is available for kyc and not for the project.
Maybe you didn't face a later KYC problem. OP is asking for a later KYC announcement after the successful project. Recently take as an example of "Clipx" campaign. If your country doesn't support KYC, how will you receive your rewards? Some of us don't support sending their KYC. I don't like to send my information to any kind of scam projects. Overall, I think this is cheating on bounty hunters.
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October 14, 2020, 05:47:27 PM
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sometimes some managers have clear written rules. you can read it more carefully first. because the bounty manager also has the will to reduce and add regulations to the projects they manage. the consequence is only the trust of the community in the project and the market. because indeed the ability of the bounty participants will not be too big and also have a big impact on the project because they have stronger investor and market confidence when they are already traded.









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October 14, 2020, 08:21:31 PM
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I think it is their right as the owner of the company because there might be an appearance in the project they are building, I think to avoid it all
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