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Although it has yet to be determined whether Trump alone can do that, the threat could actually result to WHO losing more than $400 million per year, and in the middle of a global war against a highly contagious virus. The US is the largest donor of the world's leading health organization which works to improve global health. The loss of such huge funding could also mean the deprivation of much needed health programs and initiatives of the world's most vulnerable community and people. Under fire from the US president, WHO is said to be a terrible failure in its advisories' timing and its early assessment of COVID-19. The organization is also accused of being China's accessory in hiding the real situation early on, which partly caused the seemingly uncontrollable spread of the virus right now. Or is this just Trump's way of finger pointing in the face of his own administration's apparent failure to contain the spread of the virus? Sources: https://www.vox.com/2020/4/15/21222756/trump-halts-who-funding-coronavirus-pandemichttps://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/explainer-what-donald-trumps-funding-cuts-to-who-mean-for-the-world/
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April 16, 2020, 09:47:25 AM Last edit: April 16, 2020, 11:16:24 AM by tvbcof |
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Would be great if true, but I can almost guarantee that it is a sham. Part of the WWF show which Trump excels at, and his hoard of dead-enders will eat it up. If Trump did cut the funding it would be on paper only, and then the paper would show the Bill Gates is the top contributor to the W.H.O.. Even being the 2nd biggest contributor was enough to get 'his man' into the top position. And Mr. (not Dr.) Tedros Adhanom has proven satisfactory in getting the scamdemic underway. Time will tell if Tedros has what it takes to get everyone on earth (except the ultra-wealthy) their gene-modifying RNA vaccines and bio-metric tagging which seems to be Bill Gates' primary interest. I do sense that the W.H.O. itself seems to be becoming damaged goods as the truth behind the balognavirus drips out. Jewtube no longer spams every vid with links to W.H.O.'s website.
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Trump certainly wants to cut the funding. Whether he'll be able to do so from a legal perspective is another question.
Of course this has nothing to do with the efficacy of the WHO. This is just the classic Trump behaviour of looking around to find a scapegoat to deflect from his own poor decisions. At first he tried to blame CV-19 on China, now it's the WHO. At least with China there was some culpability in their silencing of the initial whistleblowers, even if their response after that point was very good. With the WHO though, they haven't done anything blameworthy at all. The fact that the US is struggling to contain this thing is a consequence of the decisions of the US administration.
Harry Truman used to have a sign on his desk, saying 'the buck stops here'. Trump doesn't.
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All right! Some progress regarding the WHO Coronavirus lies.
Coronavirus outbreak: Trump cuts funding to WHO, orders investigationDuring a daily briefing with the coronavirus task force on Tuesday, U.S. President Trump announced that his administration will be cutting all funding to the World Health Organization (WHO) as the U.S. government conducts an investigation that is expected to take 60 to 90 days.
The U.S. president claimed the WHO failed to disclose or respond to what he called "credible" information in December that suggested the virus could be spread through human-to-human transmission.
Trump also blamed previous administrations, saying the funding should have been cut a long time ago and that they'll be looking at all the mistakes that have been made.
Trump also called the World Health Organization, very "China-centric." Coronavirus outbreak: Trump cuts funding to WHO, orders investigation
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April 17, 2020, 08:32:47 PM |
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this news is empty of any real threat
firstly. america donates quarterly. and already gave the first quarter amount secondly 60-90 days will be the time of the next payment so saying he wont pay anything for 60-90 days is like someone getting paid a wage every month and a boss saying after paying you for the month you wont be getting paid for a month..
its just a bit of empty chest thumping to pretend he is holding money ransom when the truth is the money isnt even due until after trumps deadline anyway.
but it does make a bit of entertainment. as for what he can do legally and easily. yea he cn stop the voluntary contributions. but yea they are voluntary. as for the key specific projects that have more legal contracts tied to them. well he cant easily stop them if he ups the drama after 90 days are up
im going to guess trump will say (in his usual style) 'i had phone call, good phone call, very good people, yep WHO are very good people and they have been very friendly, yep we best friends. very best friends, they have made me happy in the conversation. so i will fund them. very happy with the result'
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April 18, 2020, 04:51:50 PM |
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Trump just wants a scapegoat from his failure obviously, he and his experts should have foreseen this pandemic, because they are monitoring it, they could have taken action and ask the New York mayor to totally lock down the city as early as possible, now New York is one of the city with a very high casualties.
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Trump just wants a scapegoat from his failure obviously, he and his experts should have foreseen this pandemic, because they are monitoring it, they could have taken action and ask the New York mayor to totally lock down the city as early as possible, now New York is one of the city with a very high casualties. locking down an entire city (the biggest in your country) basically trashes your currency american left is full of retards who want to bankrupt and destroy america. and i am saying that as someone living in germany/europe, we all can see the stupidity of the left in the usa.
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April 19, 2020, 09:14:14 PM |
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Trump just wants a scapegoat from his failure obviously, he and his experts should have foreseen this pandemic, because they are monitoring it, they could have taken action and ask the New York mayor to totally lock down the city as early as possible, now New York is one of the city with a very high casualties. locking down an entire city (the biggest in your country) basically trashes your currency american left is full of retards who want to bankrupt and destroy america. and i am saying that as someone living in germany/europe, we all can see the stupidity of the left in the usa. When the currency situation gets bad enough, people will start using Bitcoin and the altcoins. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 19, 2020, 09:40:29 PM |
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I do understand a large amount of the backlash against the WHO. We send large amounts of money to the WHO and in all honesty they probably should've reacted a bit faster to the Coronavirus outbreak in China and shouldn't have relied on Chinese authorities to ensure that they were being legitimate. You can' trust China when it comes to stuff like this, and I think the WHO was relying heavily on Chinese information which made their response slow.
Why send money to a global health organization that didn't really do much here? I know that they're probably handling many other things, and the Coronavirus wasn't their only medical issue to be handling -- but still.
If Trump was smart he'd start his own health organization that is run by US health officials and is properly funded for future pandemics.
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April 19, 2020, 09:55:22 PM |
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I do understand a large amount of the backlash against the WHO. We send large amounts of money to the WHO and in all honesty they probably should've reacted a bit faster to the Coronavirus outbreak in China and shouldn't have relied on Chinese authorities to ensure that they were being legitimate. You can' trust China when it comes to stuff like this, and I think the WHO was relying heavily on Chinese information which made their response slow.
Why send money to a global health organization that didn't really do much here? I know that they're probably handling many other things, and the Coronavirus wasn't their only medical issue to be handling -- but still.
If Trump was smart he'd start his own health organization that is run by US health officials and is properly funded for future pandemics.
you can't trust anyone, stuff like this happens anyway.
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April 19, 2020, 11:27:06 PM |
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Good. Don't become a propaganda arm for the Communist government of China if you want to be taken seriously on an international level. WHO's done China's bidding for them in suppressing the virus so cut off their funds. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the second highest funder of WHO and they should reduce funding themselves, but I doubt they will.
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April 20, 2020, 01:24:01 AM Last edit: April 20, 2020, 01:35:39 AM by Spendulus |
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Good. Don't become a propaganda arm for the Communist government of China if you want to be taken seriously on an international level. WHO's done China's bidding for them in suppressing the virus so cut off their funds. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the second highest funder of WHO and they should reduce funding themselves, but I doubt they will.
International organizations are always problematic, are always a cluster****, and are always politicized. More evidence seems to be coming out that China was slow in informing other nations of the problem and the likely spread of the problem. This resulted in something of world chaos. WHO certainly shouldn't be aligned with actions or advocacy that make the health of the world worse. EDIT TO ADD: I don't think this should be reduced to "China evil punish Evil China." "Evil WHO TOO!!" I can see easily, US working with China on policy and science, planning how to deal with future events such as this, and more good come from that than demonizing nations.
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April 20, 2020, 03:43:06 AM |
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Would be great if true, but I can almost guarantee that it is a sham. Part of the WWF show which Trump excels at, and his hoard of dead-enders will eat it up. If Trump did cut the funding it would be on paper only, and then the paper would show the Bill Gates is the top contributor to the W.H.O.. Even being the 2nd biggest contributor was enough to get 'his man' into the top position. And Mr. (not Dr.) Tedros Adhanom has proven satisfactory in getting the scamdemic underway. Time will tell if Tedros has what it takes to get everyone on earth (except the ultra-wealthy) their gene-modifying RNA vaccines and bio-metric tagging which seems to be Bill Gates' primary interest. I do sense that the W.H.O. itself seems to be becoming damaged goods as the truth behind the balognavirus drips out. Jewtube no longer spams every vid with links to W.H.O.'s website. Does POTUS have the authority to cut Bill Gates' contribution to WHO?
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ok can all the conspiracy guys get your stories straight there are two different finger points you conspiracy guys are trying to push. can you atleast try to pick one and stick with it. then it becomes much easier to laugh at you only once instead of twice
the two conspiracies are 1. WHO is a propaganda arm of china that is promoting that there is a pandemic to scare people 2. WHO is a coverup agent of china hiding information to pretend there is nothing to be scared about
now im just going to debunk both stories in one go. rather then wait for whatever conspiracy you pick to then debunk you individually
all the information from patient zero until public announcement is public information. the reason for the 3 weeks from patient zero admission to hospital until public release. is because it took that long for symptoms to manifest into more severe symptoms than usual and for other patients to be admitted and to find a commonality . as well as getting their blood and mucus samples tested thoroughly. these samples are valid because other countries have now also done their independant tests and seen how the RNA is as china said it was. the stats of hospital admissions away from china in other countries also validate the severity before isolations
WHO is not an authority with power to slap a country into action/inaction. it is only an advisory service if america/uk didnt want to take the advice until march. thats americas/uk's fault/choice.
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April 20, 2020, 07:26:28 AM |
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WHO is not an authority with power to slap a country into action/inaction. it is only an advisory service if america/uk didnt want to take the advice until march. thats americas/uk's fault/choice.
Exactly. I've been agreeing with you a lot recently! Trump is pathologically unable to accept any responsibility for anything. You'd think, as president, he might feel like taking responsibility is actually a part of his job. Apparently not. Compare and contrast with previous incumbents. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FC37zHIeUEAM8deq.jpg&t=665&c=ED6nabKeTZ77FA)
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Would be great if true, but I can almost guarantee that it is a sham. Part of the WWF show which Trump excels at, and his hoard of dead-enders will eat it up. If Trump did cut the funding it would be on paper only, and then the paper would show the Bill Gates is the top contributor to the W.H.O.. Even being the 2nd biggest contributor was enough to get 'his man' into the top position. And Mr. (not Dr.) Tedros Adhanom has proven satisfactory in getting the scamdemic underway. Time will tell if Tedros has what it takes to get everyone on earth (except the ultra-wealthy) their gene-modifying RNA vaccines and bio-metric tagging which seems to be Bill Gates' primary interest. I do sense that the W.H.O. itself seems to be becoming damaged goods as the truth behind the balognavirus drips out. Jewtube no longer spams every vid with links to W.H.O.'s website. Does POTUS have the authority to cut Bill Gates' contribution to WHO? I don't know how to answer that question because it isn't really based on a coherent concept of reality. The U.S. could in theory I suppose arrest Bill Gates for crimes against humanity, but don't hold your breath for such a thing. The U.S. wields considerable influence at the United Nations. The goal now is to collapse the United Nations because the Zionists wish to take on the role of 'light unto the nations' from the seat of power in Jerusalem. As Zionist are in complete control of the apparatus of the United States I expect that we'll see the U.N. be vilified (deservedly so) and the scammery associated with the 'balognavirus plandemic' will figure prominently in their campaign. The currently prominent program among the Zionists seems to be to try to get a hot war going between China and the United States. Bannon, Trump, etc are good examples of this. Proxies for Sheldon Adelson and tools his money bought. As I've suggested before, I think China would win easily with the help of the Zionists and the Chinese would end up being the debt collectors on the collateral that the U.S. Govt pledged to the Federal Reserve in exchange for producing USD. Most of the financial entities have set up shop in China by now, and China (unlike the U.S.) is important to the 'belt-n-road' program where Jerusalem is the center. Some say that the Chinese 'ghost cities' were built for a select number of 'chosen people' to inhabit when the United States is imploded. It will be interesting to see if things play out that way.
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I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not supporting some weird conspiracy regarding the coronavirus. I don't think that the WHO is in bed with the Chinese, nor do I think that the WHO made up the coronavirus.
When I made my claim before I was talking about how I believe that the WHO was just slow to get the jump on the Coronavirus. I fully understand that they're just an advisory group to countries, but I think that with the amount of funding they receive to be the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, they should've been a bit more in front of this issue and been able to call China out on their BS. Just an explanation on why this didn't happen would be nice. Because I highly doubt the WHO and everyone running it wanted to just ignore this or did this on purpose -- that'd be career ending and would probably lead to some horrible events happening to the leaders of the WHO.
So yeah, that's my little explanation regarding the matter.
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this is the big hit. i completely agree with Trump WHO said officially corona not spread human to human
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WHO, no one needs that corrupt institution. Besides Trump has bigger ally, look at the guy on front of engine and the others in front of the engine https://ibb.co/g6nR6vv![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FXVwCVyy%2FUntitled.jpg&t=665&c=cM-ipiN8PlKczA)
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I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not supporting some weird conspiracy regarding the coronavirus. I don't think that the WHO is in bed with the Chinese. [...]
Let me give you some evidences that WHO is in bed with China: - First and foremost, WHO ‘refused to act’ on Taiwan’s virus alert (https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/who-refused-to-act-on-taiwans-virus-alert/). FYI, Taiwan is one of the most sucessful countries/areas in controling/blocking the spread of Covid-19 (422 infected, 6 dead, recovered 203 over a population of 23,78 miliilion at the time of writing, source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/).
The Taiwanese government has said it sounded the alarm at the end of last year about possible human-to-human transmission of a new coronavirus when it first started to strike people down in the central Chinese city of Wuhan. Yet its warning went unheeded by the World Health Organization (WHO), of which the island is not a member due to disputes over its statehood.[/url] Imagine if WHO, at its position, had taken the warning into serious consideration and carried out some investigation, then announced it publicly, how many lives could have been saved. The reason behind WHO's ignorance is really political based: Taiwan is not a member of WHO. The only country in the world does not want Taiwan to be a part of WHO is China. Being a neutral organization, why would WHO do that? The story did not end there, WHO's CEO then denied ignoring Taiwan's warning but then immediately Taiwan revealed its warning email to WHO ( https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202004110004) and from then, WHO has been keeping silent. - Motivations behind Covid-19 name. The pandemic started from Wuhan. The name "Wuhan virus" or "Wuhan flu" is the most appropriate name for to remember it. In the past, there were a lot of similar disaster/ deseases named by locations they happened: Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), apanese encephalitis, Spanish flu or Ebola virus disease. I see no reason why WHO irrelevantly named it "Covid-19" aside from ingratiating China.
This picture tells a lot: https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106381570-1581299770111gettyimages-1196987003.jpeg
I do not like conspiracy theories either and I am even against Trump's decision in cutting WHO's aid. It would be much more better if he did it after the pademic has gone. WHO still maintains an important role in fighting Covid-19 at the moment. Doing so only results in its internal chaos.
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