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April 19, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
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Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies. Smiley

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

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April 19, 2020, 05:37:35 PM
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I don't think it makes sense to try hard when posting - the more natural you are, the more the community appreciates you. Of course, there are highly reputable members out here who try their best on improving the forum or Bitcoin itself, but if you're going to post just for the post count increase, posting a line or bulshitting in 10 is literally the same thing.

I guess the mistake most make is that they rush in to get to higher ranks in order to earn BTC on a weekly basis, but that can be seen from a mile and affects your account on the longer term. If you feel like writing a wall of text, do it. If you feel like writing just a line, again - do it. But don't shitpost and don't spam and it won't be long before someone will start appreciating your posts.
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April 19, 2020, 05:53:36 PM
Last edit: April 19, 2020, 06:11:18 PM by Charles-Tim
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Merit is everything on Bitcointalk, having merit means you are a good poster, everybody will like to read your posts and topics you created, and if you are established member, other members will respect you even Theymos and other staffs will like you and even give you merit when they see seriousness in you by the useful post you have.

If you check BPIP, you will see that only recognized members are there in which 100 people with highest merits are there, having merit is a good thing, it means you are contributing to the progress of the forum and through that you are respected and you deserve it.

But to ask questions, you are welcome, but if you contribute will be better because those that ask the questions are helped by these members. These established members learn a lot from here, and here makes them read more online before they gain more knowledge.

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April 19, 2020, 07:01:16 PM
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If you feel like writing a wall of text, do it. If you feel like writing just a line, again - do it. But don't shitpost and don't spam and it won't be long before someone will start appreciating your posts.
Exactly, be yourself while posting just don't try to copy others to earn merits which I am insisting members from a long-ago but people think if we are not making any changes in our posting style how can we get merits but the real thing is you can get merits only if you post good quality contents not just the high number of characters.

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April 19, 2020, 07:07:04 PM
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Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies. Smiley

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

Great topic. Though, I'm relatively new but I do have a suggestion to make.
If you focus on merit you may give up when its not coming in the short run.
If you focus on value and knowledge, then the merit these two will produce merits both in the short run and in the long run.

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April 19, 2020, 08:33:24 PM
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This is so true, merit system is far from perfect, for example I see many posts that I think deserve at least some merit, but I'm always out of smerit, and I know that I have no chance of becoming a merit source, because that position is for very established forum users only.

Plus, the whole goal of this forum is to learn about Bitcoin, not earning merit or money. You can do this even without creating an account here.
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April 20, 2020, 01:26:56 AM
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If someone join this forum only for enriching knowledge about Bitcoin, Bitcoin transaction, Bitcoin mining, Atlcoin etc then I will say merit is nothing for him. But if someone join this forum for earning money then I will say merit is everything for him. You can see this in Signature campaign.

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April 20, 2020, 05:38:21 AM
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Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.
Merit sources can miss good posts but if one user is a good poster and keep up his good works and efforts from day to day, someday his posts will be caught by merit sources and others. Hence, some of his good posts will receive merits. There is a topic to help good posters earning merits: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

 
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April 20, 2020, 05:49:34 AM
Last edit: April 20, 2020, 06:01:11 AM by Daniel91
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This is so true, merit system is far from perfect, for example I see many posts that I think deserve at least some merit, but I'm always out of smerit, and I know that I have no chance of becoming a merit source, because that position is for very established forum users only.

Plus, the whole goal of this forum is to learn about Bitcoin, not earning merit or money. You can do this even without creating an account here.

I often see merit giveaway topics for newbies,  some even I started in this section,  so I think newbies also have chance to earn merits but I agree it's not easy for them to get merits if they don't have enough knowledge and experience in btc.
Before we didn't have merit system and it was more easy to rank up in the forum.
Now new users should make more effort in quality of their posts what is not bad in my opinion.
Some local sections probably needs more merit sources because some local users usually don't write posts in English part of the forum and have less chance to get merits.
Of course merits are not important for all members here.

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April 20, 2020, 09:42:03 AM
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Well said mate, it is not all about merit, there are some factors that may affect why some posts don't have merit.
1. It is not that useful post.
2. It is not updated news.
3. Plagiarism.
4. Posted in a wrong board.
5. Already posted before.

Those are the only things I know why some posts are not getting merit, so always keep creating useful and help posts to help everyone in this forum.

There is no board that has the highest chance to be given by merit as long as you have created a useful posts it will be given a merit.

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2. It is not updated news.

Wrong !, not all news is always get merit... are you think history can be update? Even satoshi not update his post, he still get merit from other user Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!

3. Plagiarism.

Wrong again !, Are you know why people is copy-paste from other post/content? Because he is lazy to thinks and other people/websites have better answer than him. It's why he plagiarism high quality content to get merit

Plagiarism

User : HardFacts

Post Archived: Is Bitcoin not supposed to be about FREEDOM

Some guidelines:

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.
2. No zero value posts or threads, like "SELL SELL SELL"
3. No pointless or uninteresting threads.
4. No referral code spam
5. No NSFW content

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Some guidelines:

1. Free speech – you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.
2. No zero value posts or threads, like “SELL SELL SELL”
3. No pointless or uninteresting threads.
4. No referral code spam
5. No NSFW content


You can see HardFacts get 3 merit by plagiarism

4. Posted in a wrong board.

This is nonsense reasons, if you post in wrong board, your post can be moved by moderator easily. As we know people in this forum is often using "report to moderator" if they see a thread in wrong board.

5. Already posted before.

Again and again, wrong again !, have you thinks before give answers?

First [SCAM] CryBet Plagiarized Whitepaper

Second [SCAM] Crybet Casino/Sports Betting- Plagiarized content

You can see first this accusations is created by Jawhead999 on March 09, 2020, 03:05:16 AM. Then, Rikafip make same accusations on March 24, 2020, 06:33:15 AM and he still get merit

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April 20, 2020, 10:59:15 AM
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There is no perfect system, and merit system certainly confirms that rule. New members who are not familiar with how this system works are often confused when they see one line or few words post merited, because they think merits are only for quality posts. While this is one of the important criteria, it is not crucial for most members when they merit some post.

What one should never do is beg for merits or post something that is against his beliefs just to please others and get some merits. It is true that merits are not everything, but on the other hand they show how low or high you are ranked in this community. Not only in terms of how good or bad is your posting, but also in your character, what you have in your signature or even in your name or avatar.

The world is a cruel place, the forum is no exception, the sooner you understand it, the better it will be for you.

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April 20, 2020, 11:00:58 AM
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Great job mate, always remind all the beginners out there about this thing, I have seen so many posts by beginners about getting merit, actually it is not bad at all because you are a beginner and you have so many questions on your mind and to solve all those questions you have to ask about it by creating thread about the things you want to ask.

But do not mind that because merit will be given to you if you will focus on how are you going to participate well in this forum because once you have created a useful and helpful posts, someone will give you merit by doing that.

Merit is everything on Bitcointalk, having merit means you are a good poster, everybody will like to read your posts and topics you created, and if you are established member, other members will respect you even Theymos and other staffs will like you and even give you merit when they see seriousness in you by the useful post you have.
Well said mate, merit is everything, it will determine how good are you in this forum, the higher the merit you are, the better, but if you have not much merit, it doesn't mean that you are not good, knowledge and experience are the most important thing to have before being a better person in this forum.
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April 20, 2020, 11:05:07 AM
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I don't think it makes sense to try hard when posting - the more natural you are, the more the community appreciates you. Of course, there are highly reputable members out here who try their best on improving the forum or Bitcoin itself, but if you're going to post just for the post count increase, posting a line or bulshitting in 10 is literally the same thing.

Couldn't agree more. They might now know it, but it's easy to differentiate just casually helpful posts from those posts that are obviously just purposely made longer just to make the post more "constructive" and to potentially attract merit-givers.

Take a look at the Trading Discussions section. Every few days you're going to see the very redundant sort of "how to trade properly". And the content is mostly just various spin-offs of "do your research first", "deposit only small amounts", "don't go all in", "control your emotions", and such LOL.

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April 20, 2020, 11:13:16 AM
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We should not really focus on earning merits because if you do, you will just get discouraged and will compare your posts with other members who have a lot of merits. For me, merit is just a bonus because of your worthy post. Most users here are generous with merits, you just have to show that you deserve getting one.

Merits will come to us, sometimes even without expecting it, you will receive merit. It means someone appreciates or agreed to your posts. Everyone is welcome here especially if you really wanted to learn more about cryptocurrency.

If someone join this forum only for enriching knowledge about Bitcoin, Bitcoin transaction, Bitcoin mining, Atlcoin etc then I will say merit is nothing for him. But if someone join this forum for earning money then I will say merit is everything for him. You can see this in Signature campaign.
I agree with this one. How we see the importance of merit, depends on our purpose here in the forum.
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April 20, 2020, 11:19:03 AM
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Good point but merit is just a huge thing in this forum. I do get the point, low number of merits does not mean that you are not promoting "quality" in this forum in terms of your posts. But unlike before, this is the main thing in order to make profit in this forum, sad to say, unless you are in this forum to just learn and intereact which is the main purpose of forums. Without enough merit you won't be able to join campaigns which is the main source of profit in this forum. Although there are airdrops which do not require merits as well as campaigns, we cannot deny the fact how important merit is.
Well said mate, it is not all about merit, there are some factors that may affect why some posts don't have merit.
1. It is not that useful post.
2. It is not updated news.
3. Plagiarism.
4. Posted in a wrong board.
5. Already posted before.

Those are the only things I know why some posts are not getting merit, so always keep creating useful and help posts to help everyone in this forum.

There is no board that has the highest chance to be given by merit as long as you have created a useful posts it will be given a merit.
Some posts are not getting merits simply because other users chose not to give one for their own reasons such that they are not that familiar with the creator of the post (some are onky giving merits to other users they know), some thinks that it is a common topic and the concern is already answered in other posts or the idea was discussed already, and other reasons but the bottomline is that, we should respect still their decision of not giving so. Just continue your "thing" because we are having a wide community if users that can give you one or more someday.

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April 20, 2020, 11:35:32 AM
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Indeed, beginners should not mind first on how they will be going to get some merits in this forum, the thing that they should prioritize is "how they are going to learn from this forum", that should be the thing on their mind because knowledge is really important in every aspect of our life especially in this forum to be familiar about cryptocurrency.

If you have knowledge about cryptocurrency, if you keep reading and understanding some posts in this forum it will benefit you in the future because you will use all of that to gain money and to help some other beginners.

If someone join this forum only for enriching knowledge about Bitcoin, Bitcoin transaction, Bitcoin mining, Atlcoin etc then I will say merit is nothing for him. But if someone join this forum for earning money then I will say merit is everything for him. You can see this in Signature campaign.
Nice, very accurate, merit will only be important for a person in this forum if they want to make more money because as far as I know, the higher the merit the higher the rank and if you have higher rank you can make more money, but for me we should always mind the ways we're going to learn from this.
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April 20, 2020, 11:40:01 AM
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Merit is the one source that upgrades your account. The higher rank members are getting more merit as they have more knowledge about Trading as well as the technical things related to it. For example, if one newbie is posting daily some good content and some knowledge what he has learned then that constantly they are learning. There is no end of knowledge.

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April 20, 2020, 01:49:10 PM
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Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies. Smiley

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.
as for other members merit is one of the key factors here in the forum, if you have great amount of merit that you get from posting good topics and helping the forum and other members it will be easy for someone to rank up.

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April 20, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
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Yes, it is right that there are many experienced people here who don't care about merit. And they also don't make pressure to earn some merits. Again it also right that most of the most merited peoples are all experienced and knowledgeable.   

Actually the main motive of merit system is reducing spams in this forum. 

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