Another crypto youtuber given a ban for breach of terms of service.

[rdbase]

The well known crypto information channel had been taken down at around the same time as tone vays youtube channel was over the weekend.
He was one of two who received the notice from the video streaming platform but have since had their channel reinstated by going through the same process tone vays did by going to twitter for voicing to their fan base in support of their favorite crypto youtuber Ben from btc sessions.
He posted a video right after his appeal was heard and retracted almost immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGHojpGofBI

I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos.

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251067820852428800
He had stated in the above video he had helped retrieve money from a scammer and gave it charity but this was over a year ago.
So I dont know why their algorithm is reaching so far back in their investigation process.

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251185902275031040

So ben did do a test stream the next day. Here is how that went after the ban was lifted.
https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251352982886600705

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[eaLiTy]

The well known crypto information channel had been taken down at around the same time as tone vays youtube channel was over the weekend.
He was one of two who received the notice from the video streaming platform but have since had their channel reinstated by going through the same process tone vays did by going to twitter for voicing to their fan base in support of their favorite crypto youtuber Ben from btc sessions.
He posted a video right after his appeal was heard and retracted almost immediately.


I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos.

Looking at the sequence of events i do not think that their algorithm is targeting these accounts, even i was seeing many complaints regarding crypto channels getting their account suspended and then getting reinstated, there is another possibility for the bans, if some group is targeting these channels and if youtube get mass reports regarding a certain channel then they will suspend the channel default and unless we hear a clear response for the termination from them we can only speculate. I do not think that they retracted because of the fans protesting because they know clearly that if a channel who has a decent following is taken down, they will protest.

[Utoy101]

It's really sad seeing giant social medias such as YouTube ban crypto related channel, it's sending out a bad message to the outside world about how not to trust this space cause most people already have doubts about cryptocurrency so when they see giants companies banning crypto related contents, it's solidify their mindset about not trusting this space. I think the crypto world needs to empower one of our own contents platform so that we won't get shut out completely from posting crypto related contents across these platforms one day

[rdbase]

^^
I dont know really but this tweet from a fan put it quite on the spot of what everybody who has a channel discussing crypto thinks of how youtube handles their streamers.

[hatshepsut93]

I personally don't care about any crypto youtubers, so many of them are actually promoting scams or just giving poor advice, they are the same as those low-quality Medium bloggers or crypto news sites writers. If youtube banned Andreas Antonopoulos, then I'd be quite frustrated, but as long as it's some nonames, I'm not going to grab a pitchfork.

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

[pooya87]

I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos.

i think it is initially done based on the reports these videos receive then based on their subject. and considering the fact that all the youtube videos i have seen removed or the accounts that i have seen suspended were either promoting some sort of scam or have been misleading people with their "market analysis" which was basically drawing random lines on charts, i  say the removal is well deserved unless proven otherwise.

[Paycoinzzz]

The algorithm is never wrong and it only follows what the creator has programmed. This YouTube channel has been reported by many haters for the same reason and more specifically this is a channel talking about cryptocurrency. Although I don't work much on youtube, I know that YouTube doesn't support media channels like this. maybe that's the main reason for banning his channel this time.
but anyway I support this action of youtube, there have been too many scam ICO projects and too many people have lost money. YouTube just wants people to have a safe, entertaining environment to enjoy it.

[cheezcarls]

I personally don't care about any crypto youtubers, so many of them are actually promoting scams or just giving poor advice, they are the same as those low-quality Medium bloggers or crypto news sites writers. If youtube banned Andreas Antonopoulos, then I'd be quite frustrated, but as long as it's some nonames, I'm not going to grab a pitchfork.

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

I was thinking about moving from Youtube to LBRY because the revenue is much better. DTube is another option. I'm a crypto Youtuber myself and I don't make money in any of my videos because of my ineligibility to be a Youtube partner, but I got deeply concerned on how they handled accounts like this. I still don't forget about the first series of Youtube incidents that a lot of crypto Youtubers having their channels banned (but was reinstated afterwards). Youtube is a centralised video sharing platform, so we don't have some sort of freedom here.

I'm surprised that a lot of people are not yet taking LBRY or DTube seriously. However, they do have limits like we cannot upload videos more than 1 GB. I've uploaded a video on Youtube recently about my webinar replay that is over 2 hours of interview and almost 8 GB. This is the only downside of decentralized video platforms for now if uploading to their server directly than syncing Youtube videos.

[joniboini]

Migrating to another platform is not as easy as it sounds. You need audience to make money, Youtube has the biggest audience, the rest of them, probably not that many. On top of that, saying most of them are scammers doesn't give you the right to randomly issue a ban just because they post a vid talking about crypto or scam.

Defining a problem exist when it affects your favorites while ignoring it if it happens to 'nobody' is just weird imo.

The algorithm is never wrong and it only follows what the creator has programmed.

If that were true, why they remove the ban? Don't think Youtube is a god. They make mistakes here and there. This is not the first case, and probably there will be more. I don't know this guy but some of my favorites channels got the same troubles, from their copyright systems that is so fucked up.

[davis196]

I don't think that the Youtube algorithm has something to do with this.
I guess that this guy has some competitors or enemies that are mass reporting his videos(maybe the scammer that he retrieved the money from wants vengeance).
It's good to know that he had his Youtube channel back after going thru the process.
If Youtube recovers crypto related channels,this means that they have nothing against crypto content and they aren't mass banning cryptocurrency related channels and videos.

[thirdkiller]

Why does Youtube do this? After all, it is obvious that this will only lead to dissatisfaction with the crypto community

[yazher]

I think I know this guy here, He is banned? I wonder what's going on with youtube nowadays. He can be not teaching unnecessary things or something that will break the youtube's rules and regulations cause he was doing this for years now. His channel is one of the channel that I recommended in my thread. This will affect the crypto community on youtube, they need to be careful now cause they are being hunted one by one.

[rdbase]

^^
Well the same happened to a bigger and more well known youtuber whose account was similarity flagged at the start of this purging of the cryptoinfluencers as I like to put it.

[boltinblue]

We can all rant and rave at YouTube's policies, but the truth is we need YouTube more than they need us. Losing a few crypto-influencers means nothing in the grand scheme of things. YouTube have your habits, watch history, search history, basically your life. They know what to push infront of your eyes as alternative media. There's no stopping the Google/YouTube juggernaut.

[rdbase]

We can all rant and rave at YouTube's policies, but the truth is we need YouTube more than they need us. Losing a few crypto-influencers means nothing in the grand scheme of things. YouTube have your habits, watch history, search history, basically your life. They know what to push infront of your eyes as alternative media. There's no stopping the Google/YouTube juggernaut.

Oh but there is.
When somebody calls out their ceo on their misuse of their own policies to pick and choose who uses their platform. Which is against the law in the land of the free and home of the brave.

This might fly in communist countries such as north korea with their own karen but with a company running in the united states under their corporate acts.
I highly doubt that.

[kryptqnick]

There are many things to consider in this difficult matter. For one, I agree that it seems unclear whether it's actually faulty algorithms or Youtube Policy at this moment because there've been too many incidents like this one lately. On the other hand, many crypto YouTubers are in the gray area. It seems to me that nobody actually got banned with a channel consisting of purely educational videos on Bitcoin, blockchain and stuff like that. Many crypto channels do reviews of quite shady projects or give advice (even though they say they don't) on trading and stuff. It's not an outright scam, but it's also not neutral. At the same time, however, there are always a ton of clearly scamming videos on Youtube but the algorithms are not dealing with them efficiently. Just type 'crypto giveaway' at any moment and see what you get on the first page...

[Casdinyard]

Why does Youtube do this? After all, it is obvious that this will only lead to dissatisfaction with the crypto community

I still don't know how youtube is handling this kind of stuff, I mean I don't know how they are probing with these channels and they find out that their contents are commercially deceptive or scamming in a way when these content creators are only saying what they have in their mind ,more likely their opinion and views towards the market. And yes, with this kind of news it will impact the market and the image of crypto will be at large. We'll be having a huge problem if this continue or if youtube really finds out that there is something wrong, at least with submission to legal terms, then it would be a huge blast for crypto.

[khaled0111]

Usually Youtube just warn the youtuber or remove the video that violates their guidelines. They rarely suspend accounts. It seems they have zero tolerance with crypto related content.
I agree with joniboini that migrating to other platforms will be very costly especially in terms of revenues and the number of subscribers. But is there any better alternative!

[coupable]

We can all rant and rave at YouTube's policies, but the truth is we need YouTube more than they need us. Losing a few crypto-influencers means nothing in the grand scheme of things. YouTube have your habits, watch history, search history, basically your life. They know what to push infront of your eyes as alternative media. There's no stopping the Google/YouTube juggernaut.

I don't agree with your statement that we need youtube more than he needs us. Youtube itself has been working on crypto ads for long times before decide to ban crypto channels.
The policy of youtube has been changed simultaniously with facebook banning crypto. It's clear that giants of ads [youtube/facebook] either want to curb the spreadness of cryptocurrencies as both of them has an alternative,Libra for facebook and google cards. Or they obey the policies applied by legal authorities which is still trying to maximum limit the existence/use of crypto.

[hatshepsut93]

i think it is initially done based on the reports these videos receive then based on their subject. and considering the fact that all the youtube videos i have seen removed or the accounts that i have seen suspended were either promoting some sort of scam or have been misleading people with their "market analysis" which was basically drawing random lines on charts, i  say the removal is well deserved unless proven otherwise.

Youtube has capabilities to automatically take actions against videos and channels by analyzing their content, for example it quickly demonetizes videos that feature swastikas or other nazi symbolic, just because in the past there were incidents when advertisers had their ads placed on some neonazi propaganda videos. So, technically Youtube can run something similar against crypto channels, but I doubt that they are doing that right now. Maybe they will do it in the future though, but it won't necessary mean that they will try to censor all of crypto.