Another crypto youtuber given a ban for breach of terms of service.

[Alanin]

I personally don't care about any crypto youtubers, so many of them are actually promoting scams or just giving poor advice, they are the same as those low-quality Medium bloggers or crypto news sites writers. If youtube banned Andreas Antonopoulos, then I'd be quite frustrated, but as long as it's some nonames, I'm not going to grab a pitchfork.

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

Totally agree with you.
I saw so many people trying to shill their coins, while having 0 clue of their purposes.

[maydna]

In a few days ago, I read about Tone Vays channels has been deleted by Youtube, and now, I see crypto Youtuber BTCSessions, but I glad that they can get their account back after voicing in twitter with his fans. Perhaps, there is negotiating between Youtube and them, so Youtube opens their channel again, or Youtube already fixed the problem.

I don't think that is because of their algorithm, but perhaps, there is a code that needs to review by Youtube, so this will not happen in the future.

But if you read about Youtube reaction regard of banning the account on forbes.com.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/12/26/googles-youtube-goes-to-war-with-bitcoin-and-crypto-update/#3765efee1b63

Youtube said:

[Update: 5:05am EST 12/27/2019] YouTube has said the decision to ban bitcoin and cryptocurrency videos from its site was an "error" and the removed videos would be reinstated.

"With the massive volume of videos on our site, sometimes we make the wrong call," a YouTube spokesman told crypto news site Decrypt. "When it's brought to our attention that a video has been removed mistakenly, we act quickly to reinstate it."

But we don't know if what Youtube said is true because I don't think they will tell the truth to the public. But we can hope that will not happen with other channels who provide crypto information to the public.

[gentlemand]

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

Someone should make a concerted attempt to migrate but we all know they'll fail. Centralisation = convenience. I'm not going to fire up some obscure client to watch one guy dribble on and no one else will either.

If my livelihood depended on staying in the good graces of one remote and mercurial entity I would certainly be nervous but that's how it has to be.

[oxgroth]

Youtube want to purge all crypto content

[Sendoku]

Though google is quite a tyrannical corp, it's more than likely it happened automatically, the service doesn't have enough people to manually check all the content. I wouldn't be surprised though, even if they knew they banned crypto channel, they wouldn't restore it if not for considerable fanbase

[rdbase]

Youtube want to purge all crypto content

This is the only viable option of this entire thing which is going on.
As I had mentioned on a thread I made when this all started which I will reopen since one of them on the list I made of the crypto youtubers involved, are suing youtube in a blatant disregard to following their own rules catered to their own customers.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241100.new#new

[South Park]

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

Someone should make a concerted attempt to migrate but we all know they'll fail. Centralisation = convenience. I'm not going to fire up some obscure client to watch one guy dribble on and no one else will either.

If my livelihood depended on staying in the good graces of one remote and mercurial entity I would certainly be nervous but that's how it has to be.

Agreed, while I do not really watch YouTube videos about cryptocurrencies if those content creators only wanted the truth out there then any platform regardless of the number of people using it would be good enough for their purposes, but they are trying to monetize their content and in that case there is no platform like YouTube so they do not really have any option but to try to remain in good graces with their algorithms.

However I keep thinking it is highly unlikely this is a mistake and most likely YouTube is trying to slowly but surely try to clean their platform from this type of content.

[hatshepsut93]

Youtube want to purge all crypto content

If they wanted it, then they would have done it, they could have easily banned all the big channels, the smaller ones would leave on their own due to the loss of revenue, and Youtube could even run their algorithms to automatically delete crypto videos. And nothing about it would have been illegal, because it's their platform and they can delete any content they want.

But they don't do any of that, because they are not anti-crypto.

[anoufal]

It seems to me that with such a bad attitude towards content makers we should already move to a more free platform

[rdbase]

Youtube want to purge all crypto content

If they wanted it, then they would have done it, they could have easily banned all the big channels, the smaller ones would leave on their own due to the loss of revenue, and Youtube could even run their algorithms to automatically delete crypto videos. And nothing about it would have been illegal, because it's their platform and they can delete any content they want.

But they don't do any of that, because they are not anti-crypto.

This is one thing that is proven by the most prolific crypto promoter of bitconnect who has started their own blockchain program and just started shilling it 5 minutes ago. I just happened upon it when logging into youtube to see if I had message pop up on there. And there it was with 122 views within 3 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O00ynAU9mSk

Notice the silver youtube award in the backround given to those who have over tens of thousands of subscriptions to their channel?
Now youtube should be banning these type of channels which are only used to promote projects which end up scamming their customers in the end and now promoting their own ponzi scheme. And if you say bitconnect was not a ponzi scheme and an outright scam, then I dont know what to say any further about your certain point of view on the situation youtube has put the crypto community on their platform.

[adzino]

Though google is quite a tyrannical corp, it's more than likely it happened automatically, the service doesn't have enough people to manually check all the content. I wouldn't be surprised though, even if they knew they banned crypto channel, they wouldn't restore it if not for considerable fanbase

I remember hearing like months ago that most of the channels related to crypto currencies that got banned was a mistake. Their algorithm went rouge and started to flag contents that were talking about crypto currencies since that algorithm took them for ponzie promoter.
If I recall correctly, all those accounts were unbanned and their contents were restored. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just testing something and it went wrong, or was checking how the community would react if crypto related topics were removed from youtube (which made no sense?).

[hatshepsut93]

Someone should make a concerted attempt to migrate but we all know they'll fail. Centralisation = convenience. I'm not going to fire up some obscure client to watch one guy dribble on and no one else will either.

If my livelihood depended on staying in the good graces of one remote and mercurial entity I would certainly be nervous but that's how it has to be.

How do you even start it? If creators move first, they will have to endure huge loses until their audience comes, many of whom might never follows, and also creators' subscriber growth will be greatly reduced, because a decentralized platform will have a fraction of Youtube's users, and there won't be any sort of advanced algorithm that matches viewers with new creators.

And if the users move first, then again why would creators move to a minority platform if they can stay on Youtube and keep making more money.

Right now Youtube is an undisputed monopolist of mainstream video hosting, even centralized competitors are miles behind it, so what chance do the decentralized ones really have? I think they will keep being a small niche tool for people who need their exact properties like censorship resistance.

[Sadlife]

The scary part is that it doesn't give warning strikes like it usually does when you violate rules and regulations in Youtube.
Im worried that my favourite crypto youtubers gets ban because that's where i get some info about the Bitcoin price and also cryptocurrency news.

[TheDigitalMan]

This is why I think someone needs to create a "Decentralized" video channel.  Wasn't THETA supposed to be working on something like that?

[imstillthebest]

I think Google is purposefully fighting with crypto channels on YouTube. What do you think this is related to?

i almost forgot that youtube was also owned by the google company so youtube bans crypto accounts or vids then yeah but why on other google service such as playstore and chrome browser i can still see crypto apps and crypto ads    . 

i think maybe because people paid for it but not all   because its also possible to advertise for free and also possible to upload a game for free but infact the ad poster or game uploader are the ones that are getting paid for views  and downloads   .

[rdbase]

Though google is quite a tyrannical corp, it's more than likely it happened automatically, the service doesn't have enough people to manually check all the content. I wouldn't be surprised though, even if they knew they banned crypto channel, they wouldn't restore it if not for considerable fanbase

I remember hearing like months ago that most of the channels related to crypto currencies that got banned was a mistake. Their algorithm went rouge and started to flag contents that were talking about crypto currencies since that algorithm took them for ponzie promoter.
If I recall correctly, all those accounts were unbanned and their contents were restored. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just testing something and it went wrong, or was checking how the community would react if crypto related topics were removed from youtube (which made no sense?).

It is because of channels which I have posted above your reply which blatantly promote and advertise known ponzi schemes which have given anything crypto related on youtube a bad name.
You know who that is right?
Because obviously hatshepsut93 does not. They did not reply when I quoted their post about the smaller channels getting waved by to continue on with their habits of spreading crypto malware to the masses on their platform and actually thriving.

[gentlemand]

How do you even start it? If creators move first, they will have to endure huge loses until their audience comes, many of whom might never follows, and also creators' subscriber growth will be greatly reduced, because a decentralized platform will have a fraction of Youtube's users, and there won't be any sort of advanced algorithm that matches viewers with new creators.

And if the users move first, then again why would creators move to a minority platform if they can stay on Youtube and keep making more money.

Right now Youtube is an undisputed monopolist of mainstream video hosting, even centralized competitors are miles behind it, so what chance do the decentralized ones really have? I think they will keep being a small niche tool for people who need their exact properties like censorship resistance.

The same way people migrate their stores off Ebay or Amazon into something under their own control. Build a following and then point them to the new location. You're guaranteed to lose 80-99% of people who can't be bothered but you might hang on to enough.

It beats being rubbed out by an algorithm.

How much money do crypto youtubers make through it? It's something I've never bothered to investigate.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

Funny how none of the BSV channels are being removed....

Just a side note most or all of the above have been a target by a well known figure openly speaking about bout Tone on a number of occasions from the BSV side.

I wonder if they have anything to do with the removals I highly doubt youtube algo's just go bonkers and start removing channels that have for a long period of time been on the right side of youtube's rules.

What is more possible is someone creating a tool that auto flag's specific users content as soon as it's live then continues  to report older videos as harmful.

Something to think about anyway.

I hope the above channels can have manual reviews as many of them have been very helpful and give good advice to there viewers all apart from the above one in connection to the bitconnect he should be banned for life.

[gentlemand]

Funny how none of the BSV channels are being removed....

It could be related to the lawsuit Ripple have launched against Youtube for hosting videos using their name and the likeness of their chief penis to do giveaway cons. Since 'Ripple' and 'scam' fit together rather nicely in the mouth from whatever angle you take perhaps they have a bot that's gone mad.

[Krislaw]

YouTube is known for deleting/banning crypto videos and I think this happened based on reports and feedback from users that hates the channel.

The algorithm doesn't care about who you're, once you have a lot of negative feedbacks and reports. You get banned and appeal is very hard on YouTube, they don't respond except from the automated Q&A