Alternatives to lockdown in India?

[iamsheikhadil]

So we have been already in a lockdown of almost a month now and still around 10 days are left for the lockdown.

I see nothing but stupidity of government and the so called experts recommending the government.

At first they said to extend the 21 day lockdown to 49 and guaranteed that graph will be stabled. But almost 30 days into it, the graph is rising at an accelerated rate.

What's next? More lockdown? For months and years?

This is nothing but the results of mob ignorance.

Can a young country like us really afford to go for indefinite lockdown for a single reason like virus? We have more problems to solve than just this.

Regions where there have been 0 or simply less cases can be opened up. Entire country can be divided into zones where virus is spreading like green, red etc. And obviously, more testing. Aggressively so.

Am pretty sure the government and the politicians are loving this lockdown by making the public scared as they can just do some freebies and buy political advantage. And the lockdown isn't even yielding any positive results either. What's yoir opinion...

[akram143]

Already Narendra Modi is talking with all state's chief ministers about extending the lockdown.

I don't think we have any alternatives to tackle the corona spread...

But what other country governments are doing is great but in India they just offered fake economic packages which will not give any benefit to the current situation issue. So we elected leaders who is looting money from people even when the whole country is drowning.

[akram143]

Exactly, lockdown isn't even a good way to control this thing because as a young country, we have too many problems than to focus on a single virus and lockdown indefinitely.

I think we should formulate ways to build the immune system, segragate the youth from the old and open up the markets and make sure the youth don't come in contact with the old since mostly people who are dying are above 70. This way we can make sure we control the disease. A complete shut down is just fraud and no help.

No you are wrong.India is not a poor country even after politicians looted everything we still have enough resources to tackle the situation because we are not making money by selling oils or weapons, remember India is an agricultural country.Food products still got the demand because every human need it to live.But what governments are doing at this time is a wrong thing, they are not helping the people who are in need they just helping the big companies and who can afford the income taxes.But they never told anything about daily wagers.

[Indymoney]

Exactly, lockdown isn't even a good way to control this thing because as a young country, we have too many problems than to focus on a single virus and lockdown indefinitely.

I think we should formulate ways to build the immune system, segragate the youth from the old and open up the markets and make sure the youth don't come in contact with the old since mostly people who are dying are above 70. This way we can make sure we control the disease. A complete shut down is just fraud and no help.

No you are wrong.India is not a poor country even after politicians looted everything we still have enough resources to tackle the situation because we are not making money by selling oils or weapons, remember India is an agricultural country.Food products still got the demand because every human need it to live.But what governments are doing at this time is a wrong thing, they are not helping the people who are in need they just helping the big companies and who can afford the income taxes.But they never told anything about daily wagers.

This is really serious problem in Sub-Continent as governments never give any solid and positive package to poor and needy peoples most of time they give good benefits to big companies and their own supporters which never help right now lockdown is need of time but sadly no one have some good plan for this as how lower class peoples will surivive if this will go some more long.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

This is really serious problem in Sub-Continent as governments never give any solid and positive package to poor and needy peoples most of time they give good benefits to big companies and their own supporters which never help right now lockdown is need of time but sadly no one have some good plan for this as how lower class peoples will surivive if this will go some more long.

This is the real problem if you are not having the vision and the sudden announcement of lock down without any information is the first step that caused all the problem, many would plan on reaching their home town before the country wide lockdown, i am stuck in a harbor and i cannot sign off as i am not able to reach home, things are really bad and there is no way we will be seeing any changes in the situation either and it is really frustrating.

Can a young country like us really afford to go for indefinite lockdown for a single reason like virus? We have more problems to solve than just this.

As long as there is no vaccine or a better medical facility available if more people gets infected what can be done other than locking down the nation, its over a month the entire country is lockdown and after that the number of patients are increasing, just imagine what would happen if there was no lockdown, millions will be infected and till now we have no concrete number on the number of infected.

[kabit9]

IMO this whole lockdown was very badly mismanaged by the Indian government. It was announced all of a sudden without any preparation.

In a country as populated as India, the lockdown is likely to kill more people due to hunger, unemployment and logistical issues than COVID-19 could ever hope to.

[akram143]

Can a young country like us really afford to go for indefinite lockdown for a single reason like virus? We have more problems to solve than just this.

As long as there is no vaccine or a better medical facility available if more people gets infected what can be done other than locking down the nation, its over a month the entire country is lockdown and after that the number of patients are increasing, just imagine what would happen if there was no lockdown, millions will be infected and till now we have no concrete number on the number of infected.

Exactly, we have only solution for now is lockdown but what people will do without any money. US is giving $1200 stimulus checks to every citizen but India gave 500 and 1000 INR for few people and announced moratorium on EMIs but after a month, no transportation available for essential things so demand gets increases along with prices for food items so what people will do?

[pawanjain]

Am pretty sure the government and the politicians are loving this lockdown by making the public scared as they can just do some freebies and buy political advantage. And the lockdown isn't even yielding any positive results either. What's yoir opinion...

Why do you think that the government and politicians would be loving this lockdown because I think that it would be hurting them the most since they won't be getting any opportunities now to earn from corruption. In my opinion they would want this lockdown to get over ASAP so that they can start earning from their corrupt activities.

The lockdown is not bringing out positive results because there are foolish people out there who are not taking proper precautions and some even more foolish to spread the Covid-19 wantedly by spitting on various places. Not to mention about the Jamat case and the people who are attacking doctors and police.
It's because of such people that the cases are increasing and the lockdown is extending. There is no other option than to extend the lockdown because only social distancing can stop the virus from spreading.

Exactly, lockdown isn't even a good way to control this thing because as a young country, we have too many problems than to focus on a single virus and lockdown indefinitely.

I think we should formulate ways to build the immune system, segragate the youth from the old and open up the markets and make sure the youth don't come in contact with the old since mostly people who are dying are above 70. This way we can make sure we control the disease. A complete shut down is just fraud and no help.

So now you want to separate the elder ones from the young. Imagine you are going out to have a family dinner and they separate you from your parents because they are old and you are young. How will that be ?
Wouldn't it be better not to open such places at all ? Wouldn't it be good to only open up the essential services prior to the non-essential ones and see if that is in our favor or not.

Believe it or not, Modi is taking the right steps which are necessary for our country. It is our duty as the citizens of India to stand together and follow our leader. Only Unity can save us from this pandemic.

[akram143]

Am pretty sure the government and the politicians are loving this lockdown by making the public scared as they can just do some freebies and buy political advantage. And the lockdown isn't even yielding any positive results either. What's yoir opinion...

Why do you think that the government and politicians would be loving this lockdown because I think that it would be hurting them the most since they won't be getting any opportunities now to earn from corruption. In my opinion they would want this lockdown to get over ASAP so that they can start earning from their corrupt activities.

The lockdown is not bringing out positive results because there are foolish people out there who are not taking proper precautions and some even more foolish to spread the Covid-19 wantedly by spitting on various places. Not to mention about the Jamat case and the people who are attacking doctors and police.
It's because of such people that the cases are increasing and the lockdown is extending. There is no other option than to extend the lockdown because only social distancing can stop the virus from spreading.

Exactly, lockdown isn't even a good way to control this thing because as a young country, we have too many problems than to focus on a single virus and lockdown indefinitely.

I think we should formulate ways to build the immune system, segragate the youth from the old and open up the markets and make sure the youth don't come in contact with the old since mostly people who are dying are above 70. This way we can make sure we control the disease. A complete shut down is just fraud and no help.

So now you want to separate the elder ones from the young. Imagine you are going out to have a family dinner and they separate you from your parents because they are old and you are young. How will that be ?
Wouldn't it be better not to open such places at all ? Wouldn't it be good to only open up the essential services prior to the non-essential ones and see if that is in our favor or not.

Believe it or not, Modi is taking the right steps which are necessary for our country. It is our duty as the citizens of India to stand together and follow our leader. Only Unity can save us from this pandemic.

I am disagreeing with most of your statement here, You are right that politicians can earn money if there is no lockdown but if they let the people without lockdown the virus may spread more if that happens then India don't have enough doctors and medical equipments to take care of affected ones that is why they wanted to skip their earning opportunities a bit but still corruption is happening like corruption in buying rapid tast kits, masks,etc...

Indian government is doing great job over controlling the virus but they don't care about the people who need money to pass this lockdown season, if they give sufficient money for everyone then no one will ever go out from their home but why they didn't spend money for helping lower and poor people.

[iamsheikhadil]

Can a young country like us really afford to go for indefinite lockdown for a single reason like virus? We have more problems to solve than just this.

As long as there is no vaccine or a better medical facility available if more people gets infected what can be done other than locking down the nation, its over a month the entire country is lockdown and after that the number of patients are increasing, just imagine what would happen if there was no lockdown, millions will be infected and till now we have no concrete number on the number of infected.

Exactly, we have only solution for now is lockdown but what people will do without any money. US is giving $1200 stimulus checks to every citizen but India gave 500 and 1000 INR for few people and announced moratorium on EMIs but after a month, no transportation available for essential things so demand gets increases along with prices for food items so what people will do?

I would say the relief on loans is really a positive step and giving 500-1000 INR is not much when compared to the states but still the people are huge in number in our country though! US is sending the checks only to tax payers I guess but here we are getting anyone who has PMJDY accounts so that's a positive move.

But the thing is, India might be a single country, but its vast population and geography makes it like a combination of many countries.

If you look at how India relates here :

It is like a unity of so many countries, and hence it needs more than one approach when it comes to handling of the epidemic. I am very critical of this one motion of totally shutting the whole nation down for indefinite period!

[akram143]

I would say the relief on loans is really a positive step and giving 500-1000 INR is not much when compared to the states but still the people are huge in number in our country though! US is sending the checks only to tax payers I guess but here we are getting anyone who has PMJDY accounts so that's a positive move.

But the thing is, India might be a single country, but its vast population and geography makes it like a combination of many countries.

If you look at how India relates here :

It is like a unity of so many countries, and hence it needs more than one approach when it comes to handling of the epidemic. I am very critical of this one motion of totally shutting the whole nation down for indefinite period!

$7-15 is enough for an Indian to live for 40 days? No its not positive news.

If Indian government can give tax excemption of 1.7 lakh crore to corporate then why they don't want to give such amount to the people who really need it?

Vast population means more tax they are collecting, right?

[Cryptogames999]

So we have been already in a lockdown of almost a month now and still around 10 days are left for the lockdown.

I see nothing but stupidity of government and the so called experts recommending the government.

At first they said to extend the 21 day lockdown to 49 and guaranteed that graph will be stabled. But almost 30 days into it, the graph is rising at an accelerated rate.

What's next? More lockdown? For months and years?

This is nothing but the results of mob ignorance.

Can a young country like us really afford to go for indefinite lockdown for a single reason like virus? We have more problems to solve than just this.

Regions where there have been 0 or simply less cases can be opened up. Entire country can be divided into zones where virus is spreading like green, red etc. And obviously, more testing. Aggressively so.

Am pretty sure the government and the politicians are loving this lockdown by making the public scared as they can just do some freebies and buy political advantage. And the lockdown isn't even yielding any positive results either. What's yoir opinion...

Whatever the Government is trying to bring good things for people. Your post looks like same which was posted by Rahul Gandhi on Twitter.
Rahul Gandhi said PM not prepared for Lockdown and made these bad things.
Coming to our State Telangana where our CM still not yet filed a case on Masjid where Indonesians slept 2 to 3 days. Actually the spread happen from these Indonesians and Markaj people in Telangana. Ill post the screenshot of news and most of them are avoiding to get a medical test.

Our CM already told to people who traveled to markaj get tested, but they aren't doing.

Govt is trying to lift the lockdown, but cases will rise even more.

The looting has happened from olden kings not just political leaders.

[akram143]

Whatever the Government is trying to bring good things for people. Your post looks like same which was posted by Rahul Gandhi on Twitter.
Rahul Gandhi said PM not prepared for Lockdown and made these bad things.
Coming to our State Telangana where our CM still not yet filed a case on Masjid where Indonesians slept 2 to 3 days. Actually the spread happen from these Indonesians and Markaj people in Telangana. Ill post the screenshot of news and most of them are avoiding to get a medical test.

Our CM already told to people who traveled to markaj get tested, but they aren't doing.

Govt is trying to lift the lockdown, but cases will rise even more.

The looting has happened from olden kings not just political leaders.

Finding the reason for the spread will not change anything so lets stop the political games and start to look at the people who are in need.If the spread happened from those Indonesians then Indian government is also responsible for that because they started screeening process on the airports very early then how those people managed to get away from the tests.

[Cryptogames999]

Finding the reason for the spread will not change anything so lets stop the political games and start to look at the people who are in need.If the spread happened from those Indonesians then Indian government is also responsible for that because they started screeening process on the airports very early then how those people managed to get away from the tests.

If their is no reason, then how come the spread happens and you may hearing how Trump is speaking about China.
I think the screening might went wrong as I heard wearing a Paracetamol tablet can pass screening test at Airport.
Here is the news of that Karimnagar mosque.

The Telangana police have booked the 10 Indonesian religious preachers and the group’s five Indian facilitators, including three Karimnagar locals, for violation of visa rules, cheating and disobedience of official orders aiding in COVID-19 spread in the state.


https://www.deccanherald.com/national/south/no-decision-yet-on-re-opening-liquor-outlets-bars-kerala-minister-832682.html

Our CM should take more strict actions on such preachers and building mosques in other people lands.

The FIR was registered on Sunday, under IPC sections 420, 269, 270, 188 and Foreigners Act 1946, Epidemic Diseases Act, 1897, Disaster Management Act 2005, based on the complaint of Indrasena Reddy, special branch inspector, Karimnagar police.

All 10 Indonesians, detected in the Telangana town on March 16, had tested positive and have now recovered, after undergoing treatment at the Gandhi Hospital in Hyderabad. Five Karimnagar locals, including the two who moved closely with the group ...

[akram143]

Finding the reason for the spread will not change anything so lets stop the political games and start to look at the people who are in need.If the spread happened from those Indonesians then Indian government is also responsible for that because they started screeening process on the airports very early then how those people managed to get away from the tests.

If their is no reason, then how come the spread happens and you may hearing how Trump is speaking about China.
I think the screening might went wrong as I heard wearing a Paracetamol tablet can pass screening test at Airport.
Here is the news of that Karimnagar mosque.

The Telangana police have booked the 10 Indonesian religious preachers and the group’s five Indian facilitators, including three Karimnagar locals, for violation of visa rules, cheating and disobedience of official orders aiding in COVID-19 spread in the state.


https://www.deccanherald.com/national/south/no-decision-yet-on-re-opening-liquor-outlets-bars-kerala-minister-832682.html

Our CM should take more strict actions on such preachers and building mosques in other people lands.

The FIR was registered on Sunday, under IPC sections 420, 269, 270, 188 and Foreigners Act 1946, Epidemic Diseases Act, 1897, Disaster Management Act 2005, based on the complaint of Indrasena Reddy, special branch inspector, Karimnagar police.

All 10 Indonesians, detected in the Telangana town on March 16, had tested positive and have now recovered, after undergoing treatment at the Gandhi Hospital in Hyderabad. Five Karimnagar locals, including the two who moved closely with the group ...

So now the corona debate turns out into religious debate?

Anyone can be the reason behind the spread and everyone who spread needs to be quarantined but what Indian government did is insane, they just put all the people in a camp so people who are not yet affected with corona also will get infected?

[Clement Kaliyar]

Rahul Gandhi said PM not prepared for Lockdown and made these bad things.

Do you really need Rahul Gandhi's words to understand the lock down was implemented without prior notification. On March 24 by 8 PM he announced a complete lock down which will be implemented all over India in 4 hours and you will not be able to travel and the millions who traveled for different purposes are left stranded. Do you really claim it as a well planned decision  .

Here is the catastrophic well planned decision for the middle and lower class people .

Nearly 600,000 workers migrated on foot during lockdown

Desperate migrant workers trapped in lockdown

I have seen news about people walking thousands of kilometers to reach home, which is insane and have heard the death of a kid during a migration like this.

There is no alternative to lock down but when you implement these in a populated country like India where people travel to different states to earn their living, you need to inform the entire country before implementing a complete lock down, why do you think these people were walking hundreds of kilometers by foot, simple reason, they were not having proper shelter nor job nor the food to survive and they were forced to migrate to their village.

[Cryptogames999]

So now the corona debate turns out into religious debate?

Anyone can be the reason behind the spread and everyone who spread needs to be quarantined but what Indian government did is insane, they just put all the people in a camp so people who are not yet affected with corona also will get infected?

You have made best question how does these Indonesians escaped from Airport screening, but here comes they might brought the virus in a cold storage to spread in India.
Another point is who given permission to sleep in mosque to foreigners? Who brought them to karimnagar without permission?
This came in light when investigations went about Coronavirus. People should follow Govt rules if they breaked then the asses should be also breaked, but it is not happening here.

You are now saying people should be quarantined, but still these markaj people are not coming forward to get tested.
So you want to roam or do business during this pandemic?
Could you let me know which part of India you live and how your CM doing the job?

[akram143]

So now the corona debate turns out into religious debate?

Anyone can be the reason behind the spread and everyone who spread needs to be quarantined but what Indian government did is insane, they just put all the people in a camp so people who are not yet affected with corona also will get infected?

You have made best question how does these Indonesians escaped from Airport screening, but here comes they might brought the virus in a cold storage to spread in India.
Another point is who given permission to sleep in mosque to foreigners? Who brought them to karimnagar without permission?
This came in light when investigations went about Coronavirus. People should follow Govt rules if they breaked then the asses should be also breaked, but it is not happening here.

You are now saying people should be quarantined, but still these markaj people are not coming forward to get tested.
So you want to roam or do business during this pandemic?
Could you let me know which part of India you live and how your CM doing the job?

So you are debating in a perspective that muslims intentionally spread the virus into India? How can you say that they brought that virus into cold storage!

Anywhere in India, anyone can sleep, eat and do many things because we say India is democratic country and unity in diversity so no need permissions though.

If you don't want them to do business then give enough money to them and their family then they can get themselves into quarantaine.Hunger is deadly than covid 19.

[Cryptogames999]

So now the corona debate turns out into religious debate?

Anyone can be the reason behind the spread and everyone who spread needs to be quarantined but what Indian government did is insane, they just put all the people in a camp so people who are not yet affected with corona also will get infected?

You have made best question how does these Indonesians escaped from Airport screening, but here comes they might brought the virus in a cold storage to spread in India.
Another point is who given permission to sleep in mosque to foreigners? Who brought them to karimnagar without permission?
This came in light when investigations went about Coronavirus. People should follow Govt rules if they breaked then the asses should be also breaked, but it is not happening here.

You are now saying people should be quarantined, but still these markaj people are not coming forward to get tested.
So you want to roam or do business during this pandemic?
Could you let me know which part of India you live and how your CM doing the job?

So you are debating in a perspective that muslims intentionally spread the virus into India? How can you say that they brought that virus into cold storage!

Anywhere in India, anyone can sleep, eat and do many things because we say India is democratic country and unity in diversity so no need permissions though.

If you don't want them to do business then give enough money to them and their family then they can get themselves into quarantaine.Hunger is deadly than covid 19.

Yes, that's why so many haven't attended for testing here those who gone to markaj.

Please mention your state and area also about your CM how he is doing. I want to see this in your next post.

You should read the laws of certain states and Visa guidelines. The Indonesian story came in light only when the cornovirus story came. You know how masjids are build here on people lands?

You have told the screening had passed, then the virus may be they bought separately.
Pak prints duplicate currency and then who distribute them in india?

[akram143]

Yes, that's why so many haven't attended for testing here those who gone to markaj.

Please mention your state and area also about your CM how he is doing. I want to see this in your next post.

You should read the laws of certain states and Visa guidelines. The Indonesian story came in light only when the cornovirus story came. You know how masjids are build here on people lands?

You have told the screening had passed, then the virus may be they bought separately.
Pak prints duplicate currency and then who distribute them in india?

Exposing your private information in an online forum is not a good idea.

Why asking about the state, when Modi ji says one nation one tax.

I don't find any relation between screening the people on airports and Masjid build on other lands, can you explain it in details?

We people born without nothing so how can you say this land belongs to someone?