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April 23, 2020, 11:44:44 PM |
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Pretty sure there aren't any bounties currently in operation that will pay out lifetime amounts of money for simple bounty tasks, regardless whether they're cheating the system or not.
Even some of the best bounties back in 2017 didn't pay out lifetime amounts of money unless you live in a third world country and consider less than $10,000 to be enough to last a life time.
Realistically, hunters might as well do whatever they can to get the advantage. The vast majority of bounties are completely worthless so there's really no harm in gaining an edge over something so likely to fail.
Anybody with any intelligence would take the time they spend bounty hunting and actually work on something fruitful—like learning a new skill or developing business relations.
Definitely, there's no bounty programs out there that will give you the money for your lifetime. Bounty hunters should know that earning from these programs will not secure your income by any means. And if you are joining those token paying campaigns, you have to be prepared not to receive anything at all because only few of them will hit in the market and be valuable and follow what is the set price for their token. Also, remember that the team has the privilege to change the rules anytime, so if you can't comply with their rules in the middle of the campaign that's your wasted effort over there. Bounty hunters should not focus only in bounty hunting alone because it will not give us income all the time particularly if we end up joining a scam project. Bounty hunters IMO should not only consider bounty hunting as a means of income or profits but they should also think on how they can promote the project the best way they can even if it means no payment tokens received in the end.
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April 23, 2020, 11:45:15 PM |
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To eradicate this syndrome, you must completely remove the possibility of earning in the bounty. In this case, all the people who are here solely for the sake of earning will stop spending their time on the bounty of the company. They will find other methods of earning outside this environment. Or it is better to identify those who abuse and break the rules.
The eradication of earning through bounty can not happen because this forum was assigned for bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency discussion and also to serve as an advertisement area for new project. Therefore, i think the only thing that should be do is apply some restriction in the bounty section. I agree with you, BM and Project teams needs to find a better approaches that will help them curb cheeter and pave more reward for the honest one. I believe bounty is not a promotional outreach that should be overlooked as it's help in creating awareness about the project and even cettain investors
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April 23, 2020, 11:51:56 PM |
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Each time i went through the bounty section all i can see is 90% greedy bounty hunters which barely read project concept and the necessary requirement before participated in a bounty campaign.
Are you bounty hunter or not?? I am sorry but after reading your post I can conclude that it is full of hate to bounty hunters. It is like a description of a bad experience from a bounty hunter to others. Sorry but you mustn't blame bounty hunters only. See those shit projects that only polluted this forum! Anyway, not all hunters are careless and stupid. There are many of them who are always selective and don't want to wasting time by participating in random projects. So, do you see the smart hunters only 10%? I don't think so.. lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 23, 2020, 11:52:07 PM |
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To eradicate this syndrome, you must completely remove the possibility of earning in the bounty. In this case, all the people who are here solely for the sake of earning will stop spending their time on the bounty of the company. They will find other methods of earning outside this environment. Or it is better to identify those who abuse and break the rules.
The eradication of earning through bounty can not happen because this forum was assigned for bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency discussion and also to serve as an advertisement area for new project. Therefore, i think the only thing that should be do is apply some restriction in the bounty section. I agree with you, BM and Project teams needs to find a better approaches that will help them curb cheeter and pave more reward for the honest one. I believe bounty is not a promotional outreach that should be overlooked as it's help in creating awareness about the project and even cettain investors There are some bounty managers that have adopted some methods, which at least, though not totally, worked for them. Which is why you see some of them complain that the rules are just too difficult for them. Bounty campaign is the major reason so many users are being pulled in here and if it does not exist again, the whole story will change. New methods can be devised every time, to curb the menace. If some can achieve it in some areas, they can achieve it in newly invented ones.
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April 24, 2020, 12:25:24 AM |
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But we have to admit that bounties earnings isn't as profitable nowadays compare from 2017 previous bounties. Those hunters can always find a good bounty but the thing is, most of the bounty campaigns abused their regulations. Isn't too tiring to fully give your time and effort to bounty campaigns which at the end is noy worthy? I am not against bounty hunters, i am against the scam bounties which will put bounty hunters in a useless situation at the end.
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April 24, 2020, 02:30:30 AM |
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But we have to admit that bounties earnings isn't as profitable nowadays compare from 2017 previous bounties. Those hunters can always find a good bounty but the thing is, most of the bounty campaigns abused their regulations. Isn't too tiring to fully give your time and effort to bounty campaigns which at the end is noy worthy? I am not against bounty hunters, i am against the scam bounties which will put bounty hunters in a useless situation at the end.
Also back then there's less scam bounties compare now. I do agree bounties abuse their regulations but that thing often happens on scam bounties. It's really tiring to put your time to promote a project that will scam you in the end, sadly alot of bounty hunters out there ignore red flags of a scam project just to get paid.
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April 24, 2020, 03:10:56 AM |
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But in 2020 I doubt any bounty hunter will make such huge amount compared to the investors or the project team because the quality got reduced in a huge amount not the rewards so bounty hunters are not in their golden run and being a bounty hunter will give more mental stress due to lot of scam projects and efforts wasted.
I agree just last year I asked my friends about their bounty rewards and they all answer that rewards are cut by over 50 to 90% and there are campaign in the ICO that pays people with their token that is already in the market and they are paying from 10 to 25 a week equivalent far cry from what they've received back 2016 and 2017.
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April 24, 2020, 04:40:18 AM |
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Bounty will never cease in this forum and the hatred by investors will just grow even more over time. They just see these people or us, as hindrance to their profting on new projects. I understand that they have the rights to get angry or mad when the price dumps. Of course they did invest their money while hunters are doing a simple task such as social media specifically retweeting a projects tweet is not a hard thing to do and will not eat up their brain cells to that.
But what I am not agree is how they degrade hunters for dumping. How can a small portion of supply might ruin the entire market? There are some part of blamd on other traders too if you check the whole picture.
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April 24, 2020, 05:06:37 AM |
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I do not think that this can be fixed. For a year I see that people constantly write about the problems associated with bounty campaigns and I believe that nothing will change. Everything will become harder. I'm afraid that next year the bounty hunters will receive less and less money
New ICO projects will always need good advertising, and bounty hunters generally do it well. I have long been awaiting the regulation of this type of activity by states, which would put an end to the high level of fraudulent projects. In addition, in June, the FATF recommendation that KYC should be applied only if transactions exceed one thousand euros should finally come into effect. Since bounty hunters already receive less than one thousand euros in new tokens for their work, there will generally be no need to require us to pass a KYC check. This check for the bounty hunters played a very bad role, since it allows unscrupulous ICO teams, under various far-fetched pretexts, not to pay us the earned tokens.
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April 24, 2020, 05:11:08 AM |
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At the beginning of the project, they were very supportive of the hunters to complete this work, but after a specified time, the prizes could be shared how much of their reasons for delaying and even cutting the costs they had to incur for the hunters. , of course it's not fair. One larger aspect, they continue to think that hunters damage costs while their tokens or coins start trading in the market
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April 24, 2020, 06:06:48 AM |
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What you (OP) are saying is damn confusing, hunters don't make money that can last them for eternity, not even in 2017 when many ICO projects were successful, bounty cheaters are been dealt with non stop and 99% bounty projects today pays penny to hunters
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April 24, 2020, 06:38:26 AM |
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Why do we blame hunters and not the project teams for some initiatives taken by them.
Honestly, bounty hunters are to be blame in some case while the project team are responsible for managing the project and make it prosper rather than quench in a thin air. But also many thinks crypto hunters are greedy and cheaters but I see it as smartness,
Each time i went through the bounty section all i can see is 90% greedy bounty hunters which barely read project concept and the necessary requirement before participated in a bounty campaign. Meanwhile, no one should call that smartness but greed and cheat. Some finish a project and are richer than most investors(Hunter's Syndrome)
Only bounty hunter that registered with alt account will be richer as you claimed through bounty even back in the early days when bounty pays well. Bounty hunters are able to make it big in 2017 because of the hype surrounding ICO at the time, many investors are present then and many money flow in, but how many of these successful projects are alive today? Many of them exit scam and investors still lose out in the end
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April 24, 2020, 06:42:13 AM |
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KYC is held to meet regulations, besides that it also has reasons to prevent scammers. however, some people always blame the bounty hunter for what happens to the price of a coin. but, if you think about it well, then there will be an oddity from that. Yeah, but that's a risk of a bounty hunter. Even investors who take part in the pre-ICO / IEO can make a dump price because the bonus is too large, or there is no wall in the market.
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April 24, 2020, 05:19:17 PM |
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Each time i went through the bounty section all i can see is 90% greedy bounty hunters which barely read project concept and the necessary requirement before participated in a bounty campaign.
Are you bounty hunter or not?? I am sorry but after reading your post I can conclude that it is full of hate to bounty hunters. It is like a description of a bad experience from a bounty hunter to others. Sorry but you mustn't blame bounty hunters only. See those shit projects that only polluted this forum! I participated in bounty sometimes but i need to be honest so every bounty hunter that read my post will know and understand their mistakes. With that been said, i dont blame bounty hunter but I'm making a statement that will bring change in the system and if bounty hunters are more careful they could spell something fishy about shit project point out right from the get go. Anyway, not all hunters are careless and stupid. There are many of them who are always selective and don't want to wasting time by participating in random projects. So, do you see the smart hunters only 10%? I don't think so.. lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Thats correct. The careless one are many than reasonable one and you'll agree with me on this if you go through some bounty campaign thread will see different kind of bot registration. Why do we blame hunters and not the project teams for some initiatives taken by them.
Honestly, bounty hunters are to be blame in some case while the project team are responsible for managing the project and make it prosper rather than quench in a thin air. But also many thinks crypto hunters are greedy and cheaters but I see it as smartness,
Each time i went through the bounty section all i can see is 90% greedy bounty hunters which barely read project concept and the necessary requirement before participated in a bounty campaign. Meanwhile, no one should call that smartness but greed and cheat. Some finish a project and are richer than most investors(Hunter's Syndrome)
Only bounty hunter that registered with alt account will be richer as you claimed through bounty even back in the early days when bounty pays well. Bounty hunters are able to make it big in 2017 because of the hype surrounding ICO at the time, many investors are present then and many money flow in, but how many of these successful projects are alive today? Many of them exit scam and investors still lose out in the end Hype might be surrounding most ICO/IEO in the year 2017 but the hype was not the main reason why bounty hunters make it big through bounty because the reason is the bitcoin halving effect.
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April 24, 2020, 07:04:15 PM |
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I know hunters behavior can sometime be awkward but i think it is the team that mostly makes the hunters angry either by not paying rewards, delaying distribution, reducing reward tokens after campaign ends, kyc announcement after campaign ends, announcement of token locking after campaign ends, these are all bad intention moves that can hurt hunters so teams should avoid these situations and rewards should be distributed as soon as stakes are added and everything is checked.
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April 24, 2020, 07:44:18 PM |
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Yep some hunters are greedy, this is why the BM must be very strict at the point of application and deplore any instrument that could track cheaters and report same for discipline. It's however wrong to generally insult all hunters, even your username is for hunting.
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April 24, 2020, 08:29:06 PM |
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Why do we blame hunters and not the project teams for some initiatives taken by them. ~
Because irresponsible dev teams want to always look right, so the easiest way is to blame the bounty hunter. I have seen a lot of projects that remain successful and can maintain their prices well in the market without a meaningful dump when bounty hunters get their rewards. Logically, if the dev team is afraid of the risk of price damage due to the bounty hunter, why do they hold a bounty campaign? They should know that, considering the right pool and strategy to keep things under control.
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April 24, 2020, 08:37:22 PM |
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I do not know what do you really mean by the term hunters syndrome, i am clear in this regard, because if someone has followed the rules and completed tasks everyday for months then he definitely deserves good reward and if this reward ends up in more tokens than even the highest investor, who cares? It is his rightful reward after putting in months of time and effort in promoting the project and spreading the word out and making it a success. Just get out of your narrow thinking and try to learn to appreciate and respect other people's work.
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April 24, 2020, 11:44:55 PM |
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Don't judge all hunter like that. Yes people working as a hunter here because of good payment but that not means they are all greedy and selfish. KYC is totally personal opinion that you want to do it for bounty reward or not. And i also disagree that not maximum project but few projects ask for KYC (in my experience, and maximum time those are good projects). Honestly as a bounty hunter people are not going through in good time, day by day it's going hard to earn from a bounty project but all we have is hope. So yeah wait and be patience for the right time.
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April 25, 2020, 03:44:01 AM |
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I do not know what do you really mean by the term hunters syndrome, i am clear in this regard, because if someone has followed the rules and completed tasks everyday for months then he definitely deserves good reward and if this reward ends up in more tokens than even the highest investor, who cares? It is his rightful reward after putting in months of time and effort in promoting the project and spreading the word out and making it a success. Just get out of your narrow thinking and try to learn to appreciate and respect other people's work.
He means about some hunters are able getting more coins than the investors of the project itself. Im also thinking about that too. We must remember if there was a maximum cap for the reward to be achieved by the hunters even in the majority of the cases, the hunters have got only small amount of money from their effort.
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