[POLL] Donald Trumps IQ - let us know!

[nutildah]

I don’t think I’ve read any post of yours where you don’t bitch and moan about
exterminating china or some such ridiculous nonsense...phukking asshat

And you know what's worse?
If you debunk him on any matter, he does a back-flip, and goes lunar.

I can almost see the reply, "read carefully what I said, never said that, it's you that goes on about China".
It's a pickle lovin ballerina!

I remember when I criticized him for advocating the murder of muslim children and he called me an NPC. Frankly any time he posts that's all I think about.

I would say he ruined Pickle Rick for me, but that's just not true. Nothing can ruin Pickle Rick.

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[JSRAW]

He's bit dim but in the end he figured it out all by himself so stop bashing him.  

WTF. His face really looked like that? That's not photoshopped or something?

No, realdonaldtrump already got many colorful expressions so no editing is required.

[Ibian]

In other words... you support this idiot,

Name a better alternative.

That's always the test. Do you have a better solution or do you just like to bitch and whine? Which is it?

So you support the idiot ... got it

A better solution? How about Micky Mouse?
Bitch and whine? Are you shitting me?
I don’t think I’ve read any post of yours where you don’t bitch and moan about
exterminating china or some such ridiculous nonsense...phukking asshat

You are a complainer. Moving on.

[JimboToronto]

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

Then again, never attribute to stupidity what can be explained by sleaziness.

Trump seems to have lots of both.

[Ibian]

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

In better times. Not in a narcissistic culture. In the current year it's the reverse. Especially in current year chy-nah.

[vapourminer]

It is definetly possible that Trump tries to look as stupid as possible to underestimate him.

I'd argue against that.

You have to play dumb - sure - to reach Trump's status.
But that doesn't make him smart.

In fact, it is exactly that.
He can only play dumb, and leave open the possibility that he is an underestimated smart guy, but in reality he is just average smart to see his best interest.
At least that's what he thinks, I suppose.

Btw, the best description imo would be: "morally ruthless", aka "businessman for president".

i read somewhere that trumps strategy is to DDOS the truth by putting out so many lies you cant even understand them anymore.. bury the truth in idiocy to hide it.

except hes to stupid to think of such a strategy. soooo... his being a straight up moron is the simplistic explanation.

i would LOVE to see his school transcripts. an average C- tops. and thats being generous.

[kurious]

The problem is always when people are stupid enough to think they are smart, when patently they are not.

There is an inability in the human mind to conceive what it would actually be like to be smarter.  Therefore it is easy for anyone to believe they are as smart as it is conceivably possible to be. 

This becomes dangerous when insecurity or narcissism means someone shuts off doubt and humility and is somehow able to convince people to give them some responsibility.  In Trump's case "I am wealthy and therefore successful* - and I am on TV" seems to have been what worked.

The Donald's IQ...  Less than his shoe size? 

OK, realistically - in the 70s if he took a test.  I doubt he is that mentally functional to get anything higher.

*this is doubtful, he was left a lot of money by his father and has a string of bankruptcies and massive debts.

[vapourminer]

This becomes dangerous when insecurity or narcissism means someone shuts off doubt and humility and is somehow able to convince people to give them some responsibility.  In Trump's case "I am wealthy and therefore successful* - and I am on TV" seems to have been what worked.

The Donald's IQ...  Less than his shoe size? 

OK, realistically - in the 70s if he took a test.  I doubt he is that mentally functional to get anything higher.

true dat.

best trump quote: "im the president and youre fake news!"

that says everything i need to know.

btw 70 IQ is probably spot on.

[JimboToronto]

[Ibian]

The problem is always when people are stupid enough to think they are smart, when patently they are not.

There is an inability in the human mind to conceive what it would actually be like to be smarter.  Therefore it is easy for anyone to believe they are as smart as it is conceivably possible to be. 

This becomes dangerous when insecurity or narcissism means someone shuts off doubt and humility and is somehow able to convince people to give them some responsibility.  In Trump's case "I am wealthy and therefore successful* - and I am on TV" seems to have been what worked.

The Donald's IQ...  Less than his shoe size? 

OK, realistically - in the 70s if he took a test.  I doubt he is that mentally functional to get anything higher.

*this is doubtful, he was left a lot of money by his father and has a string of bankruptcies and massive debts.

And again, go ahead and name someone better.

Anyone who has accomplished something has failed on the way there. This is normal, and unavoidable. He has also failed less than the average in his business. It is deeply troubling that bitcoiners, of all people, have trouble with this concept.

Incidentally what do you estimate that Bidens IQ is? Just out of kuriosity.

[JimboToronto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw

[seoincorporation]

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I suppose IQs can go negative. I mean, if the price of oil can go negative, then why not?

Hahahaha! great answer!

I don't think trump is a total idiot, i mean, he is not the smartest guy, but to be good at business isn't just about luck, you need some IQ for that. This crisis is hard for any president, people will die and there is not much they can do about it. But a smart guy would make fewer people die and not have those big numbers.

[JayJuanGee]

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I suppose IQs can go negative. I mean, if the price of oil can go negative, then why not?

Hahahaha! great answer!

I don't think trump is a total idiot, i mean, he is not the smartest guy, but to be good at business isn't just about luck, you need some IQ for that. This crisis is hard for any president, people will die and there is not much they can do about it. But a smart guy would make fewer people die and not have those big numbers.

I have problems marking below 76 in the actual poll because Trump is truly not stupid, but he is a narcissistic bully who seems to have never had to account in any meaningful ways for his thug behaviors and lies.  He actually gets rewarded for such behaviors.

Yeah. Maybe he was beat up as a child, but I really doubt it.  He had likely always been just a spoiled brat who carried his behaviors into various other realms.

Regarding the more recent behaviors in terms of dealing with the virus, it may be a bit difficult to know whether he is being purposeful in his incompetence or really just innocently incompetent, and I do understand the old expression that we should never attribute malice to that which can be explained by incompetence (apparently it is called Hanlon's razor), but it is seeming that Trumps track record is filled with so much malice that his current behaviors are likely either to be malice or certain powers that be might be allowing or facilitating the malice aspects of Trumps already existing inclinations.

Probably these ongoing behaviors will continue to work to Trump's advantage because he is fairly good at keeping himself in the spotlight whether the attention facilitates getting positive things done, such as getting the economy back in order or getting some meaningful path forward in regards to the virus or otherwise... some of the seeming purposeful destruction of certain aspects of society while making less fortunate people bear the greatest brunt of his attention seeking bumblings.

Don't get me wrong.  I think that he is somewhat hilarious as a comic or someone who does not have power to wield, but in this case, his comedy has lots of impacts that seem to be more damaging than they are helpful, even though lots of people who want various aspects of society to be destroyed are liking these moves towards Armageddon.. even though they might not admit it out loud.

[JSRAW]

Is it possible that his IQ level is high and his brains works very fast that his mouth can't keep up?

[JayJuanGee]

Is it possible that his IQ level is high and his brains works very fast that his mouth can't keep up?

Hey.  I think that I tend to be a fairly charitable person, and I am willing to give benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, most of us probably get some ideas about when we see a conman, and we have to come to a conclusion in a reasonable amount of time.. like maybe give them a few chances before we come to judgement.

Trump has truly proven himself, even while I understand that some people have concluded that he walks on water and that he can do no wrong, but I get the sense that some people just get pleasure in hearing what they want to hear.

I will admit that I will not necessarily sit through whole presentations with people that I know that are lying, so sometimes if there might happen to be some value in a 20 to 30 minute presentation that he might give, then someone might need to point that out to me, because I feel that there is not enough hours in the day and to riddle my own brain with lies and misinformation... it is not good for your brain or developing and maintaining your own critical thinking skills.

I am not going to berate anyone who wants to give him the benefit of the doubt, but frequently, I will find that if I engage with anyone who is really attempting to be intellectually honest, there is hardly anyone who really believes that he is NOT a con man.  Many people that support him so enthusiastically frequently are actually considering him to have utilitarian value in terms of their beliefs that his behaviors is actually carrying out their personal/ideological agenda in one way or various ways.

[Ibian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw

Okay, that was actually pretty good. But I will still say the same to you as all the others. If you can name someone better then go ahead and do so.

[Ibian]

Is it possible that his IQ level is high and his brains works very fast that his mouth can't keep up?

My impression is that he has an intuitive understanding of how to persuade people. Perfect for salesmanship and politics. Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with IQ, although dumdums rarely become billionaires.

[rick9327]

The main thing is to keep track of your own IQ 

[vapourminer]

The main thing is to keep track of your own IQ 

the negative range (-22 to 0) was included for just that reason

[JSRAW]

Is it possible that his IQ level is high and his brains works very fast that his mouth can't keep up?

My impression is that he has an intuitive understanding of how to persuade people. Perfect for salesmanship and politics.

He's not a politician for starters that's why he was elected as President at first place and about his salesmanship rest of the world calls it bullying.

Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with IQ, although dumdums rarely become billionaires.

Not every dumdum inherits hundreds of millions dollars, All he had to do is not lose his marbles completely.