Boards specific merit-sources may help better in identifying right contribution

[redsun114]

Last few pages of this topic: [Upgrade!] So.... on which board did you earn (or spent) most of your (s)Merit? shows contributions in local boards are recognized and merited more frequently compared to same members' other board contributions.

When local boards' merit sources are effectively recognizing right posts with respect to their countries' BTC adoption levels and BTC based business levels, why not we have board-specific-merit-sources for all other boards to entourage the right contributions and high quality posts.

For example, an active gambler will be able to assess right contributions in gambling boards and same applies for an economist in economics and for a trader in speculation and trading discussion boards.

A student may learn multiple subject at a time but his teacher must need to be an expert in one subject to teach him one particular subject. Similarly, we may post across the boards but it could be recognized only by an expert in the same field.

[Jawhead999]

why not we have board-specific-merit-sources for all other boards to entourage the right contributions and high quality posts.

No we don't need that, as the another option of your suggestion we arleady have this thread [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. If you think your or another user post is high quality but still don't get merited, you can report it in this thread

IMHO, if we implemented a boards specific merit-sources... We will see a bunch user only want to create thread or post in this board only and start refusing other boards because this board is easily to get merit than other boards.

[redsun114]

[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. If you think your or another user post is high quality but still don't get merited, you can report it in this thread

This topic must be an evidence for nonrecognition for right posts from merit sources!

IMHO, if we implemented a boards specific merit-sources... We will see a bunch user only want to create thread or post in this board only and start refusing other boards because this board is easily to get merit than other boards.

What will happen if we have active merits sources for each and every board?

[acroman08]

[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. If you think your or another user post is high quality but still don't get merited, you can report it in this thread

This topic must be an evidence for nonrecognition for right posts from merit sources!

IMHO, if we implemented a boards specific merit-sources... We will see a bunch user only want to create thread or post in this board only and start refusing other boards because this board is easily to get merit than other boards.

What will happen if we have active merits sources for each and every board?

just like what Jawhead999 said. we will a lot more unnecessary thread trying to gain merit from merit sources from that specific board(if your suggestion is implemented). to be honest, I feel like there are enough smerits to go around for deserving posters it's just that there are a lot of members(aside from merit sources) tend to horde or not spend their smerit even if the post is high quality or helpful.

[ryzaadit]

Most of the moderator it's a merits source.

Its that means they could be represented merits source from each board? Anyway, about a contribution to a specific board, there is nothing wrong at all. The person could have more knowledge for some specific topic on that board and because of that he will be can be more contribution on that board than others. And because of moderator more focus on their roles at that board, the merits cycling of a mod transaction would be more frequently at that board.

Local board active less activity than global, went someone creating quality post on local board would be easy to recognize since the activity "last post" from a local board just around 2-3 thread for each day. If we compare it with a global board, went each day more than 100 new posts can be created some quality cant be recognized because of a news posts.

What will happen if we have active merits sources for each and every board?

Nothing different, still the same since most of the moderator already become merits source.

[joniboini]

This topic must be an evidence for nonrecognition for right posts from merit sources!

It's evidence that the number of posts is way bigger than the sources. Seriously, you can't expect a hundred members or so to scroll through 1k+ posts a day. Please don't twist it around.

[redsun114]

What will happen if we have active merits sources for each and every board?

Nothing different, still the same since most of the moderator already become merits source.

Mods to be a merit sources must be a right move but it may have its own pitfalls:
Moderation includes identifying spams and violation of forum rules but all non-spam posts are NOT right contributions to be eligible for merits. It means when mods are focusing on catching spams and rules violations, they may miss out right contributions.

For example, @hilariousandco, @Cyrus and @mprep are moderating more than one board which again making them probably no different from other merit sources when it comes about identifying right contributions due to heavy workload on fighting against spam and violation of forum rules. (This is just an example/assumption based on how much spams pop up everyday).

Please note, merit system may prevent spammers but cannot eliminate spamming 100% so mods still have their heavy routine works to keep this forum cleaner. So, adding extra responsibilities (asking to identify right contributions) to them may not serve all its purposes.

Seriously, you can't expect a hundred members or so to scroll through 1k+ posts a day. Please don't twist it around.

This forum itself is too big already and active posters are already in big numbers hence obviously you can expect 1000+ posts everyday. So, there should be a need for new things to be introduced, isn't?

[DdmrDdmr]

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Merit Sources are not confined to a specific board, so any board may be merited as a result of their forum surfing interests/habits.

Local boards are pretty heterogeneous:
- A few have a large amount of awarded sMerits, but also many posters.
- Others have a reasonable amount of sMerits for the amount of posters, and the better posters are normally spotted there.
- About half of the local boards are pretty inactive, and lack a Merit Source acting there.

Normally if a board (any) is considered undermerited, the best way to draw attention to it would be to report some details specifics in a thread (such as this one). By specifics I mean something in the line of:

a) Providing some numbers on the number of posts (quantitative).
b) Providing some numbers on the number of merits awarded there (quantitative).
c) Providing a "lengthly" list of posts that are unmerited/undermerited there (subjective quality).

The former two can be derived in multiple ways (for example using the Merit Dashboard). The latter requires more time to compile, but with the above you can make a concrete case that draws attention to the situation with specifics.

[Apocollapse]

I think you must introspection yourself than giving suggestion to merit-sources for meriting users. You want other people to send more his smerit, but you don't want to send your smerit to other users. It's SMERIT not KMERIT, does holding smerit will got a reward? Since you're old user and active in this forum, I don't believe if you never find a good post when you saw it somewhere. After you find a good post you will read, post and not send your smerit.

Merit sent by redsun114 from January 24, 2018 until April 24, 2020 (source)


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Only spend 2 smerit and hold other 259 smerit.

Keep in mind, I'm not forcing you or any user to send smerit, because it's subjectivity to send smerit.

[mu_enrico]

@OP if the purpose is for "teaching" I found directly challenge one's opinion is better than giving merit. Plus, the "expert" himself can also create topics to explain something.

IMO, merit is more useful to differentiate spam low-value one-liner posts with posts that have real intention.

[Upgrade00]

IMHO, if we implemented a boards specific merit-sources... We will see a bunch user only want to create thread or post in this board only and start refusing other boards because this board is easily to get merit than other boards.

This would not be the case if it was spread out across the various boards, if any user had equal opportunity to get merited in any board they post on, it would encourage them to post on more diverse topics. Lots of users avoid specific sections due to the low level of genuine interest in the content posted there (as many members have the sections on ignore) and this reduces the quality of discussions made there. Higher merit activity there could change that.
I don't think it is necessary to make it official that a merit source has been assigned to a specific board. Theymos has been very diverse in his merit source selection process, at this time we have sources who regularly frequent a variety of board, and they are knowledgeable on that section so would be able to pick out merit worthy posts easily. But they should not be confined to a specific board.

[Pmalek]

Apocollapse is right in what he says. There is no point in hoarding merits. In recent months I have always checked the merit stats of users I intent to merit for one reason only. I want to know if they participate in the merit sharing or not. If the ratio is nowhere near the 2 received = 1 sent, I don't merit those users, even if I like their post. I don't feel like throwing my merits down the well and prefer giving them to those who participate instead.  

Although Apocollapse isn't sharing his either for now.