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July 03, 2020, 01:38:21 PM
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I escrowed a deal between AlexPCS and a buyer of these cards. Everything went smooth - worked out and all parties were satisfied with the deal and the product.

Pleasure doing business with you AlexPCS! Smiley

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July 04, 2020, 12:41:49 PM
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What a nonsense!
You do not understand what sanctions mean. Sanctions disallow some certain operations for some certain bank or institution. Did you take a look at "the sanctions that Russia has"?

Please read the original as you studied russian at school:
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/31/07/2014/570420109a794760d3d40648

VTB was denied from european credit market, political target was to limit Russia to get currency from abroad but not to control every single operation of every russian tourist  Grin


What a 5-point score for you, congratulations in an attempt to portray Lucius as a fool who doesn't know what he's talking about Wink

Maybe you should look at the meaning of the word tourist and compare it to someone who is permanently resident in a country. A Russian tourist cannot come to France, Germany or the UK and be a tourist for a year legally, and whether anyone will be suspicious that a tourist from Russia uses his card in those countries all year round without actually ever leaving his country is a question for those dealing with the prevention of money laundering, terrorist financing or tax evasion.



Since some consider this service to be something completely legal and normal, I will try to seek the opinion of some relevant participants in the whole story - so I will start from the bank that issued the card, and various EU agencies that deal with such things.

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July 06, 2020, 02:07:11 PM
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What a nonsense!
You do not understand what sanctions mean. Sanctions disallow some certain operations for some certain bank or institution. Did you take a look at "the sanctions that Russia has"?

Please read the original as you studied russian at school:
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/31/07/2014/570420109a794760d3d40648

VTB was denied from european credit market, political target was to limit Russia to get currency from abroad but not to control every single operation of every russian tourist  Grin


What a 5-point score for you, congratulations in an attempt to portray Lucius as a fool who doesn't know what he's talking about Wink

Maybe you should look at the meaning of the word tourist and compare it to someone who is permanently resident in a country. A Russian tourist cannot come to France, Germany or the UK and be a tourist for a year legally, and whether anyone will be suspicious that a tourist from Russia uses his card in those countries all year round without actually ever leaving his country is a question for those dealing with the prevention of money laundering, terrorist financing or tax evasion.



Since some consider this service to be something completely legal and normal, I will try to seek the opinion of some relevant participants in the whole story - so I will start from the bank that issued the card, and various EU agencies that deal with such things.

Let me know please that pan european agency that controls residence/non residence status of all people in EU and then matches  VISA/Mastercard transactions against that data? Do you really think it is possible, especially in terms of privacy regulations?  Shocked
My relative has obtained a residence permit in Poland and state authorities could not even check without his passport stamps how many days a year he stayed in EU.
What a nonsense!
Do not mislead people on the forum, your hypothesis is not your experience.
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July 07, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
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Let me know please that pan european agency that controls residence/non residence status of all people in EU and then matches  VISA/Mastercard transactions against that data? Do you really think it is possible, especially in terms of privacy regulations?  Shocked
My relative has obtained a residence permit in Poland and state authorities could not even check without his passport stamps how many days a year he stayed in EU.
What a nonsense!
Do not mislead people on the forum, your hypothesis is not your experience.

Considering that we are talking here about the Russian Bank, and the alleged Russian citizens who sell their legal bank cards to interested customers through intermediaries - there is something called Schengen Visa that every Russian citizen must get in order to enter the EU (legally of course). Such a visa is usually valid for a maximum of 90 days after it is issued, and the issuance of the visa and monitoring of its duration is supervised by the immigration authorities via a database.

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded. Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.

I am not misleading people or writing nonsense, there is nothing wrong with what I have stated in any post.

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July 07, 2020, 11:56:23 AM
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Considering that we are talking here about the Russian Bank, and the alleged Russian citizens who sell their legal bank cards to interested customers through intermediaries - there is something called Schengen Visa that every Russian citizen must get in order to enter the EU (legally of course). Such a visa is usually valid for a maximum of 90 days after it is issued, and the issuance of the visa and monitoring of its duration is supervised by the immigration authorities via a database.

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded. Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.

I am not misleading people or writing nonsense, there is nothing wrong with what I have stated in any post.


Again nonsense.
I guess you do not know that EU states can issue so called national visas that allow to stay 365 days a year in some EU country and 90 days in the whole EU.

I have had in the past D-type national Polish visa and stayed all the year in EU that way legally.
https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/visas

I confirm again that the type of pan european monitoring you mentioned in your previous post exists only your mind.
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July 07, 2020, 02:53:41 PM
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I received the card and  sim. Sim used to receive sms for secure mastercard code when pay in internet.
Thank you Hhampuz  and AlexPCS to allow me a week to test the card.



back side



AlexPCS provided a list of exchanges to load the card and advice how to choose most suitable, load was very easy, on one exchange card was refilled after the fist bitcoin confirmation immediately and on other site after 3 confirmations.
As I understood exchanges work like sites for p2p payments because my load payment originated like p2p transfer but I do not know for sure. I inputed my 16 digit card number to make a refill request, all anonymous. Card was loaded in RUB, exchange rate was about 4-5% from market that I checked in coinmarketcap in average.

Card worked in internet without problems and was enrolled in my Scaleway hosting company account.
I cashed out twice 400 eur in total from ATM.
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July 11, 2020, 05:55:04 PM
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I was very curious about this thread that I read all pages, but here's what I need to know:

does this card arrive in my country mozambique and work at ATMs?

I used wagecan and their Mastercard card worked very well in my country until I lost the card and to order again it will be very high cost

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July 13, 2020, 02:43:21 PM
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I was very curious about this thread that I read all pages, but here's what I need to know:

does this card arrive in my country mozambique and work at ATMs?

I used wagecan and their Mastercard card worked very well in my country until I lost the card and to order again it will be very high cost

Hi, nice to meet you.

We could ship the package to you with a 7-day trial period. You will have enough time to test whether the card works in your country. If the card does not work, you will send it back after the trial expires, otherwise we close the deal. Return shipping costs are covered by you. If you are interested - please let us know via PM.

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July 17, 2020, 12:54:26 PM
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I escrowed a deal between AlexPCS and a buyer of these cards. Everything went smooth - worked out and all parties were satisfied with the deal and the product.

Pleasure doing business with you AlexPCS! Smiley

uhh, can you ship me a card  with a trial period as well?
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July 18, 2020, 01:56:12 PM
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I escrowed a deal between AlexPCS and a buyer of these cards. Everything went smooth - worked out and all parties were satisfied with the deal and the product.

Pleasure doing business with you AlexPCS! Smiley

uhh, can you ship me a card  with a trial period as well?


Certainly, I've followed up via PM already.

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July 28, 2020, 04:50:24 PM
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Service alive?
What is the cheapest card to convert btc to fiat?

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August 02, 2020, 07:02:37 PM
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Service alive?
What is the cheapest card to convert btc to fiat?

Hi,

Yes, the service is alive. Debit cards are in stock, shipment on the day of the order.

The cheapest option we have currently is Yandex money card: https://money.yandex.ru/cards/yacard This is a full-featured debit card with online access, decent limits and a possibility to generate virtual cards.

450 EUR per year/350 EUR extension for the next year

Should you have any questions, feel free to let us know.


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Hello, only RU bin ?

EU, US, SG ?

PM please
 
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Hi,

Yes, the service is alive. Debit cards are in stock, shipment on the day of the order.
 

Alex, please PM me, thanks.
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Hi,

Yes, the service is alive. Debit cards are in stock, shipment on the day of the order.
 

Alex, please PM me, thanks.

Hello, only RU bin ?

EU, US, SG ?

PM please
 

PMed both of you already. Thank you.

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This service looks promising but for personal reasons I can't get anything physically shipped to me yet, so I want to know if someone just wants to use your cards for internet transactions, is it possible for you or a trusted third party to manage the PINs, banking app and other things like receiving auth codes on their behalf?

Also what is the maximum amount that can be loaded at once?

I'm very interested in this service but I don't have the finances to buy this service yet, so treat this as just an inquiry.

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This service looks promising but for personal reasons I can't get anything physically shipped to me yet, so I want to know if someone just wants to use your cards for internet transactions, is it possible for you or a trusted third party to manage the PINs, banking app and other things like receiving auth codes on their behalf?

Also what is the maximum amount that can be loaded at once?

I'm very interested in this service but I don't have the finances to buy this service yet, so treat this as just an inquiry.

Hello. Yes, it's possible. You can install a banking app on your own smarthphone and set a passcode to access the app and manage your card/account. SMS authorization will be required once for initial bank app setup. Further you could add the card to apple pay/samsung pay and use it for cash withdrawal where NFC withdrawal is supported. In this case you could avoid physical shipping of the package. Maximum allowed card transactions turnover per day - 3000 EUR, this includes all types of transactions - loading, withdrawing, card2card transfers etc.

We offer cheaper options as well, PMed you.

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September 04, 2020, 08:24:20 AM
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New banks in stock, welcome!

We often receive queries regarding virtual cards. Some of the banks we offer provide that feature. We have banks which provide the possibility to have multiple virtual cards at once. In case you need virtual cards only, we can provide everything digitally, without shipping of the physical card.

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September 14, 2020, 08:02:23 PM
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Escrowed another deal for this service and it went just as smooth as the first time around, two thumbs up AlexPCS Smiley

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September 16, 2020, 10:48:15 AM
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We often receive requests via PM. Please don't forget to leave your contact information so we could get in touch with you. We do our best to reply ASAP, but PM notifications might end up in spam, so you won't know that we have replied you.
We have also added our public telegram contact to OP.

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