Socialism vs Capitalism Meme Review

[beerlover]

I understand that memes are basically comedic purposes and I understand that joking about stuff that are very vital to your life is basically the root of comedy. You can't talk about shampoo and expect people to laugh and remember for years, but when you talk about pains or what we face every day, you will get a lot of laughs and even become cult.

Nevertheless, this topic is getting to a level where basically capitalism kills people right now because money is more valuable than human life for some people who actually have the power and can actually make those decisions. I am not saying let's all nations become socialist over night or something, I am not even purely socialist, I am a democrat socialist, however when capitalism and corruption has reached to a level where human life has a price point, I think its not funny anymore.

[mu_enrico]

The sad thing about this "socialism" is no matter how many countries tried it and failed, people always tried to push this crap again and again. It's like a cycle: the poor want more from the rich -> coup/election -> socialism -> all become poorer -> coup/election -> capitalism -> new rich people emerge.

[AlgoSwan]

The sad thing about this "socialism" is no matter how many countries tried it and failed, people always tried to push this crap again and again. It's like a cycle: the poor want more from the rich -> coup/election -> socialism -> all become poorer -> coup/election -> capitalism -> new rich people emerge.

well said. Socialist central planning simply cannot operate an advanced industrial economy.

[tbterryboy]

North Korea is not a socialist country at all? They are a dictatorship, no dictatorship could be socialism, it could be communism if you want to call it? Communism doesn't have anything against the dictatorship and one person ruling, however socialism is literally when everyone has a say in the management and when you have one person rule over everyone that is not very equal rights is it?

If you want to show the north Korea as a socialism bad then I could basically say that Nazi Germany was capitalist as it gets and they did what they did, UK was capitalism as well and killed millions all around the world as well. So, as you can see there are big examples for everyone that could be wrong.

Socialism is not even enough, that is too much, you have to be democratic socialist to give people the right to give up that if they want to, hence everyone gives examples from Scandinavia, because you can turn that country into rightist extremist Christian nation with just one elections if you vote a party like that, it gives you that right, people prefer Democratic socialists and that is why they are like that but they are not forced to be like that, they are given the options.

[FanatMonet]

Socialism works in China but not in other countries, capitalism works in USA but not necessarily in the ex Soviet countries, i have the strong belief that all what matters is the person to controls the democratic tools, if we talk about people open minded then everything will be fine, if not, then we just die in front of the hospital because we don't have medical insurance. Capitalism or socialism it goes down to the leaders.

It is not socialism that works in China, but its bizarre mixture with capitalism. Many of the highest officials of the PRC are billionaires, how can this be under socialism? No. Therefore, citing China as an example is not very correct. Here rather Vietnam or even the DPRK.

[Hydrogen]

Those claiming north korea is not an excellent example of socialism.

Who told you that. And what made you believe them?

Not going to attack anyone for their views. Simply curious as to how people came to be so determined to believe in that perspective.

 

[Naida_BR]

The sad thing about this "socialism" is no matter how many countries tried it and failed, people always tried to push this crap again and again. It's like a cycle: the poor want more from the rich -> coup/election -> socialism -> all become poorer -> coup/election -> capitalism -> new rich people emerge.

You always want something that you don't have.
People who ask for socialism feel that they are treated unfair from the governments so they ask for getting more money. In some capitalism countries, governments transfer money from the poor levels to the richer levels through taxation.
This is why there are still people who search for socialism, they want to tackle this unfair situation.

[abhiseshakana]

North Korea is not a socialist country at all? They are a dictatorship, no dictatorship could be socialism, it could be communism if you want to call it? Communism doesn't have anything against the dictatorship and one person ruling, however socialism is literally when everyone has a say in the management and when you have one person rule over everyone that is not very equal rights is it?

If you want to show the north Korea as a socialism bad then I could basically say that Nazi Germany was capitalist as it gets and they did what they did, UK was capitalism as well and killed millions all around the world as well. So, as you can see there are big examples for everyone that could be wrong.

Socialism is not even enough, that is too much, you have to be democratic socialist to give people the right to give up that if they want to, hence everyone gives examples from Scandinavia, because you can turn that country into rightist extremist Christian nation with just one elections if you vote a party like that, it gives you that right, people prefer Democratic socialists and that is why they are like that but they are not forced to be like that, they are given the options.

In accordance with the 1972 constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, in article 1, it states that "the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is an independent socialist state that represents the interests of all Koreans. De facto or de jure, North Korea removed communism from its constitution in 2009 and adopted a mixed ideology confusing ideas and concepts, starting from absolute monarchy, totalitarianism, market socialism.

Korean ideology is Juche which states that humans control and determine their own destiny as well as additional Songun ideologies where the military takes precedence in the life of the country and the existence of a cult leader is very different from socialism & communism but more inclined towards nationalist autarchy.

At the moment, I don't think North Korea will use its weapons directly, or if there is a nuclear test maneuver that is only for the show-off. North Korea's goal of developing nuclear is based more on economic security reasons, namely to meet the needs for energy, finance, material assistance, easing sanctions, and economic incentives.

North Korea chose nuclear as (deterrence) against the strength of neighboring countries such as Japan, South Korea, and even China and even America which has a military base in Japan. With North Korea's nuclear enhancing their bargaining position in foreign diplomacy and missile technology they also traded.

North Korea is a poor country, dangerous but very smart. North Korea is aware of all its shortcomings but has chosen military instruments in international diplomacy to increase its bargaining power and prestige in the military world. War is not an option for North Korea because it realizes that its only close friend is China.

I also export goods to North Korea (daily necessities) and the fact is that it is more profitable because the payment using the cash system is done before the goods are loaded into containers. But the export regulations are very strict and they already have an export route through the port of China with one type of shipping that serves the route.

[mu_enrico]

People who ask for socialism feel that they are treated unfair from the governments so they ask for getting more money. In some capitalism countries, governments transfer money from the poor levels to the richer levels through taxation.
This is why there are still people who search for socialism, they want to tackle this unfair situation.

Well, if you don't like the government, why give them more power? If socialism, according to the Oxford dictionary: "advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community," then government --which is the representation of the community-- will own and regulates everything.

As we know that the central planner is not efficient and cannot predict what and how much people want or need, then obviously everyone will be more miserable. Hence, if the problem is the corrupt government, you reform them, but don't change the economic system. Imagine what corrupt government can do in a socialist system.

And yes, according to the same dictionary, socialism is the "transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism."

#NorthKorea #Venezuela
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/socialism