Las Vegas Mayor Wants to Re-open Casinos. Thoughts?

[Renampun]

there will be a surge in corona-positive patients if the las vegas are reopened...
it will not be able to open, as usual, we all know that las vegas are very crowded, thousands of people gather and it will be difficult to keep their distance, there needs to be an innovation if you want to reopen las vegas.

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[freedomgo]

there will be a surge in corona-positive patients if the las vegas are reopened...
it will not be able to open, as usual, we all know that las vegas are very crowded, thousands of people gather and it will be difficult to keep their distance, there needs to be an innovation if you want to reopen las vegas.

There is always a measure that will be put in place, don't expect that you will see the same crowd when the casino will be reopen, just like a department stores or malls open even at the pandemic, they will also make some extreme measures to ensure there will be no spread once they will re open.

I am not against anyone who are concern with the pandemic, but the economy will die if it will not be well balance.

[Ucy]

Just wow . I don't know how you able to ignore such thing. Yeah it is true that corona virus is less lethal than the other viruses existed but it's spread rate is no joke.

Common cold also isn't deadly and its spread rate is no joke. Most of us get it once a year.

That's what it makes more dangerous, hello? It won't become a pandemic for nothing.

It became a pandemic because the government officials overreacted. The bans are already being lifted.
The virus has been spreading in February and is spreading now. It's just not as deadly as they had thought.

There are unbelievably selfish people. If you are young and strong, you are probably not afraid of how lethal covid is even if you are infected. But are you not gonna consider those people around you or those who come in contact with you who are very vulnerable to succumb fatally to the same virus?

Just look at the numbers and you will see we are increasing to millions and millions of infections despite the lockdowns everywhere.

Those who feel vulnerable and feel scared can stay at home. It doesn't mean we all have to.

Well, those that are strong in "faith" (& are truely "protected")  would still consider those that are weak in faith and vulnerable.
If a good/reasonble law says wear a mask and practice social distancing, do it for the sake of others (even if you'll never get infected) so they don't get scared, confused, start copying you, or start behaving recklessly.
People who get infected from you, won't be glad knowing who is responsible for their misery

[Beparanf]

there will be a surge in corona-positive patients if the las vegas are reopened...
it will not be able to open, as usual, we all know that las vegas are very crowded, thousands of people gather and it will be difficult to keep their distance, there needs to be an innovation if you want to reopen las vegas.

Some countries already experiencing 2nd wave outbreak of the virus, thinking they flatten they curve and that their able to bring their economy back that makes them risk more lives. Many will be attracted to go again in Vegas especially this time that some thinks its way to earn for them or to get what the lose during lockdown. Better not to reopen until vaccines were able.

[Bezobraznike]

there will be a surge in corona-positive patients if the las vegas are reopened...
it will not be able to open, as usual, we all know that las vegas are very crowded, thousands of people gather and it will be difficult to keep their distance, there needs to be an innovation if you want to reopen las vegas.

There is always a measure that will be put in place, don't expect that you will see the same crowd when the casino will be reopen, just like a department stores or malls open even at the pandemic, they will also make some extreme measures to ensure there will be no spread once they will re open.

I am not against anyone who are concern with the pandemic, but the economy will die if it will not be well balance.

   Freedomgo you are right,  we can be concerned but economy will die if
people don't work, and that will be just the beginning. Towns like Vegas,
other towns that depends on people who go there, spend money there have
no choice. Only with risk they can try to reopen and work, but there's no
other choice for them.
     There's no way wee will see crowd so soon anywhere, but one day we will get back
to normal life, we can only hope it will be soon.

[STT]

Casinos are not an essential activity, They have not yet been given the green light to reopen in Las Vegas.

Open air Bingo, its still business but its adaption over what was previously done.    Every company in the end is going to have to find a way forward thats a compromise between the absolute shutdown which was never feasible long term and back to normal which is not reasonable as it will cause unnecessary deaths to some of your customers.     Clear all these physical operations should have been linked to a website of games, if they didnt do it in the past they were slacking imo and now its proving to be a fatal mistake.    Letting people play russian roulette and just pretend its back to normal is not ok, as you say there is no justifiable reason to do that.
   Nevada has great weather time to take advantage and go open air, its not impossible just more hassle to operate this way.

[carlfebz2]

Casinos are not an essential activity, They have not yet been given the green light to reopen in Las Vegas.

Open air Bingo, its still business but its adaption over what was previously done.    Every company in the end is going to have to find a way forward thats a compromise between the absolute shutdown which was never feasible long term and back to normal which is not reasonable as it will cause unnecessary deaths to some of your customers.     Clear all these physical operations should have been linked to a website of games, if they didnt do it in the past they were slacking imo and now its proving to be a fatal mistake.    Letting people play russian roulette and just pretend its back to normal is not ok, as you say there is no justifiable reason to do that.
   Nevada has great weather time to take advantage and go open air, its not impossible just more hassle to operate this way.

They would need to choose.. Hassle or wont really have any revenue at all? Of course you would really embrace the new normal and as a business then you would do sort of things .
As a casino owner then you would need to adjust because it needs to and if not then expect for business to be good as dead and for us gamblers then we would need to adapt
because we know on what situation we are into.

As long the vaccine isnt out yet then we cant really go back to our normal lives and would need to adjust.

[KTChampions]

I saw reports about the restaurants that were opened (it seems in Germany) and this is what surprised me: they had practically no visitors. I wonder if the casinos open the situation will be about the same? A business cannot work without visitors, and if there are none for various reasons (fear or lack of money), it is better to wait for better times.

[DarkDays]

I guess she doesn't understand that even animal welfare means freedom from disease.

I'm sure people would rather lose some income rather than be in hospital having their lungs ventilated because they're got bacterial or viral pneumonia!

I understand there's a need to balance the effects on the economy with the effects on people's health, however, it should not be forced on everyone.

Maybe they should have a vote on it. Let the citizens on Las Vegas vote whether they want to take the health or financial hit. At least it's fair that way.

[bisdak40]

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She is like in an oven toaster, hot from all sides  . Every ounce of decision here will be criticized. But i like the courage and the optimism of this official as we can't be forever be hiding scared from this virus as we will suffer if we don't do anything about it. Once casinos will be back open, people would also be mindful and they will follow protocol (though not all) to avoid the virus and if ever there's a spike in contamination then that should be the time to lock down again. Move and adjust until we all find the best way to balance everything.

[Gyfts]

Casinos are not an essential activity, They have not yet been given the green light to reopen in Las Vegas. The good thing is that in Nevada the rate of infected people was controlled.

Now to lifting of confinement the essential activities businesses are being carried out by phase first. Casino owners are eager to reopen under strict preventative measures such as make testing Coronavirus for their employees.

It's not a matter of essential activity, it's about saving the local economy. No one is going to make the argument that gamblers need to be serviced. It's about looking at the line of jobs involved in casinos. You have blue collar workers like servers, dealers, pit bosses, ect. that can not stay on unemployment forever.

Even after casinos reopen, they're not going to see the same level of volume as before until years from now when this blows over.

[StephenJH]

I saw reports about the restaurants that were opened (it seems in Germany) and this is what surprised me: they had practically no visitors. I wonder if the casinos open the situation will be about the same? A business cannot work without visitors, and if there are none for various reasons (fear or lack of money), it is better to wait for better times.

From the marketing perspective, it makes sense, as the first opened casino the interest by regular groups of gamblers will grow day by day and this will show its effects after the end of the lockdown. The same principles work in all sections of businesses included online casinos that will start the match with 1-0 score, IMHO. The lack of money is the another motivational reason to accelerate the whole process.

[chaser15]

I saw reports about the restaurants that were opened (it seems in Germany) and this is what surprised me: they had practically no visitors. I wonder if the casinos open the situation will be about the same? A business cannot work without visitors, and if there are none for various reasons (fear or lack of money), it is better to wait for better times.

Restaurants do have deliveries so they can still operate without visitors. I just don't know how heavy the demand of food delivery on Germany.

As for physical casinos, gamblers really need to go here to play. That's why there are lots of critics received by the Mayor.

But for me, as long as they following a strict guidelines, I'm not against this. Casino workers are desperate, they need to find work to sustain their daily living and casinos. I'm sure they already know it's risky so they will follow the guidelines.

[iTradeChips]

For one it is very very risky for the Mayor to open the city this early through the pandemic. Being that the U.S. has the most number of infected in the world, that basically is the alarm that we need to tell everyone to be very careful in everything they do if they decide to go out and do some outdoor activities away from the safety of their home. Sure you can go ahead and make the economy run again but with less people going out then there is no point in opening the businesses that early.

[KTChampions]

I saw reports about the restaurants that were opened (it seems in Germany) and this is what surprised me: they had practically no visitors. I wonder if the casinos open the situation will be about the same? A business cannot work without visitors, and if there are none for various reasons (fear or lack of money), it is better to wait for better times.

From the marketing perspective, it makes sense, as the first opened casino the interest by regular groups of gamblers will grow day by day and this will show its effects after the end of the lockdown. The same principles work in all sections of businesses included online casinos that will start the match with 1-0 score, IMHO. The lack of money is the another motivational reason to accelerate the whole process.

An interesting thought. I agree. If the number of visitors allows you to justify operating costs and be at least at a zero level of profitability, then opening is a profitable step that will pay off in the future. But if a significant part of the establishments opens immediately, then it seems to me that there will not be enough visitors for all.

[bittraffic]

I saw reports about the restaurants that were opened (it seems in Germany) and this is what surprised me: they had practically no visitors. I wonder if the casinos open the situation will be about the same? A business cannot work without visitors, and if there are none for various reasons (fear or lack of money), it is better to wait for better times.

From the marketing perspective, it makes sense, as the first opened casino the interest by regular groups of gamblers will grow day by day and this will show its effects after the end of the lockdown. The same principles work in all sections of businesses included online casinos that will start the match with 1-0 score, IMHO. The lack of money is the another motivational reason to accelerate the whole process.

An interesting thought. I agree. If the number of visitors allows you to justify operating costs and be at least at a zero level of profitability, then opening is a profitable step that will pay off in the future. But if a significant part of the establishments opens immediately, then it seems to me that there will not be enough visitors for all.

Can't say there no enough visitors because when it comes to entertainment, people will forget the risk just to attend a boxing match. I believe there had been fights in the MGM grand already. There are sports events already happening in Last Vegas which I guess the mayor succeed with her intention to provide jobs for the people.

But then the risk still there. We could say they contribute why US is the epicenter of the virus these days.

[KTChampions]

An interesting thought. I agree. If the number of visitors allows you to justify operating costs and be at least at a zero level of profitability, then opening is a profitable step that will pay off in the future. But if a significant part of the establishments opens immediately, then it seems to me that there will not be enough visitors for all.

Can't say there no enough visitors because when it comes to entertainment, people will forget the risk just to attend a boxing match. I believe there had been fights in the MGM grand already. There are sports events already happening in Last Vegas which I guess the mayor succeed with her intention to provide jobs for the people.

But then the risk still there. We could say they contribute why US is the epicenter of the virus these days.

I see two reasons that can prevent a person from spending money on entertainment:

1.) A lack of money. Due to the crisis, many people lost their jobs/habitual source of income and are forced to save now.
2.) Fear of getting infected. Many people argue this way: entertainment will not run away, better I’ll wait for the end of this situation.

I think both of these reasons are weighty. How significant they are we will know when the rejection of restrictive measures begins and people have a choice.

[pixie85]

Well, those that are strong in "faith" (& are truely "protected")  would still consider those that are weak in faith and vulnerable.
If a good/reasonble law says wear a mask and practice social distancing, do it for the sake of others (even if you'll never get infected) so they don't get scared, confused, start copying you, or start behaving recklessly.
People who get infected from you, won't be glad knowing who is responsible for their misery

If a law is idiotic you were given a brain to think for your own and question it. If you believe that wearing a mask made of a piece of cloth will protect you from the virus you must be nuts.

Ever thought that it's not people who are infecting you, but you can simply catch it from touching a product in a store. The virus can survive for a few days on surfaces, so wearing a mask does nothing but give you a false sense of safety.

Whole world will get the virus sooner or later. You can live like normal if you want or stay at home and delay the inevitable.

[STT]

Washing hands and not rubbing your face after touching surfaces especially in public was from near to the start stated as the main danger to catching it.   The face mask is just the most visible way so in peoples minds the most effective, I agree the mask can be a danger in false security when the distance the washing hands is what counts far more.
  Unfortunately people are not liable to be rational and people will do things without thinking which leads them into catching this by accident by a momentary lapse.  We're all vulnerable and the main request to reduce exposure is because there is no way hospitals can handle everyone getting it all at once.  There is no excuse to open up cinemas or anything with close contact corridors and so on.    Luckily most supermarkets are wide and open but still its a balanced risk to take.   The 2nd wave will likely worse then the 1st I think, partly because people get used to the problem and stop worrying.

Contact with slot machines and all the other hands on games obviously is not going to work.  I thought my idea of bingo out in the open was ideal, it doesnt require touch or circulated cards etc.   Obviously we all know it should be done online where at all possible till year end at earliest imo.

[btcltcdigger]

She's only doing this because i believe she owns a chain of restaurants in some of those casinos, and its hurting her pockets to keep them closed.