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May 04, 2020, 11:56:27 PM
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Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.
In the US alone there are more than twenty thousand patients identified on a daily basis, i am not aware of situation in the rest of the states  but the situation in Las Vegas might be far better than the rest of the states in the US and if they close the boundaries and test and identify the affected people then they can open everything, if not they are taking risk that they will regret in the future.
Closing every entry and have a testing personal before anyone from the outside places to play might work, the government should implement much strict rules in order to lessen the chance of this pandemic virus to spread more. It's a tough call but if it's the way the mayor seen to revive the economy then taking the risk might results positively in terms of financial state. The government needs to find ways and each available solutions might be consider.

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May 04, 2020, 11:59:21 PM
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Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.
In the US alone there are more than twenty thousand patients identified on a daily basis, i am not aware of situation in the rest of the states  but the situation in Las Vegas might be far better than the rest of the states in the US and if they close the boundaries and test and identify the affected people then they can open everything, if not they are taking risk that they will regret in the future.
Closing every entry and have a testing personal before anyone from the outside places to play might work, the government should implement much strict rules in order to lessen the chance of this pandemic virus to spread more. It's a tough call but if it's the way the mayor seen to revive the economy then taking the risk might results positively in terms of financial state. The government needs to find ways and each available solutions might be consider.
Its hard because there are people who are asymptomatic which can possibly cross borders without  being detected so its hard to detect when its on early stage.As long the vaccine isnt available yet then we cant really easily open or go back to normal and as said by Oilacris above that situations becomes even more worst if they do force up everything.Everything is already bored into this situation and its understandable that
those kind of words or sentiments cant really be avoided to come out in their mouths.Its hard but we shouldnt rush things up.

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May 05, 2020, 01:23:05 AM
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online gambling would be nice. many gambling district have developed Apps to cater customers and there are offshore gaming available here in my country. casino is a luxury business and it is not essential to open in todays world. i feel bad for the employees lost their jobs because of the pandemic but i think it is good that casinos remain close untlil the virus is present because it would be worse when it mutate and people will no longer have measures to contain it.

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May 05, 2020, 07:16:35 AM
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Reopening casinos in Las Vegas. It will not be the same, there is talk to test the temperature to customers, if there are still travel restrictions. The visit to the casino would be less, social distances and all the elements that the gambling and entertainment rooms have. It is a difficult situation, it is an industry that invests and generates a lot of income. We are honestly caught at a crossroads with the Coronavirus where we have to decide between health or the economy.


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May 05, 2020, 07:56:14 AM
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Reopening casinos in Las Vegas. It will not be the same, there is talk to test the temperature to customers, if there are still travel restrictions. The visit to the casino would be less, social distances and all the elements that the gambling and entertainment rooms have. It is a difficult situation, it is an industry that invests and generates a lot of income. We are honestly caught at a crossroads with the Coronavirus where we have to decide between health or the economy.

We can expect that will be the scenario due to the fact that there is still not vaccine for covid-19, if they will re-open, at least they will make something, which is better than not making anything at all, employees will be back since the operation will be back, but I am really concern with the risk of getting infected, on their part they will like to resume and promise but that is their bias opinion since its their own business or personal interest, so let us leave it up to the government or the authority on what action they will do.

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May 05, 2020, 08:01:32 AM
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Reopening casinos in Las Vegas. It will not be the same, there is talk to test the temperature to customers, if there are still travel restrictions. The visit to the casino would be less, social distances and all the elements that the gambling and entertainment rooms have. It is a difficult situation, it is an industry that invests and generates a lot of income. We are honestly caught at a crossroads with the Coronavirus where we have to decide between health or the economy.


thats sounds nice although it sounds a bit hassel too but its for our own safety anyway.  this way there will be no next wave of corona that will happen or no virus will penetrate in the future    . back on the real issue here about reopening during the crisis is a big no  . better if they will wait till the recovery on thier country is full and that will be the safest way to operate again but with a new stricter rule that we discussed above earlier . if they want they can create online gambling for now
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May 05, 2020, 08:22:23 AM
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Of course not, it is a selfish decision. I understand that the reason why they want to open the casino is that Las Vegas depends on the gambling industry, this is where they get their taxes. However, take note that if they open casinos it will be full packed by people which will put their city at risk. Many people will die due to the virus. Everyone is struggling financially, but this will not solve it, it will only put people's lives at risk.

How will call a suggestion that'll favor the economy of his city and its citizens selfish?, She isn't saying this to favour just herself as I'm quite sure we all know the gambling industry is what bring in the largest revenue to the city and create job empowerment for its citizens. Without job, people will lack funds and within funds, hunger will kill more victim than the say Corona virus.

If you watch the news, other establishment are planning on resuming like the premier league and other sporting events so as some companies that shutdown due to the outbreak. Sanitizing the hands of the visitors of the casinos and practicing social distancing (only few numbers of gambler can be allowed in the casino at a time) could also reduce the spread of the virus meanwhile we go around our daily activities.

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May 05, 2020, 08:41:08 AM
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Of course not, it is a selfish decision. I understand that the reason why they want to open the casino is that Las Vegas depends on the gambling industry, this is where they get their taxes. However, take note that if they open casinos it will be full packed by people which will put their city at risk. Many people will die due to the virus. Everyone is struggling financially, but this will not solve it, it will only put people's lives at risk.

How will call a suggestion that'll favor the economy of his city and its citizens selfish?, He isn't saying this to favour just himself as I'm quite sure we all know the gambling industry is what bring in the largest revenue to the city and create job empowerment for its citizens. Without job, people will lack funds and within funds, hunger will kill more victim than the say Corona virus.

If you watch the news, other establishment are planning on resuming like the premier league and other sporting events so as some companies that shutdown due to the outbreak. Sanitizing the hands of the visitors of the casinos and practicing social distancing (only few numbers of gambler can be allowed in the casino at a time) could also reduce the spread of the virus meanwhile we go around our daily activities.
 

The mayor's a her.

If the mayor is only thinking of the city's economy, that would certainly be selfish. An unseen enemy is just outside the city's homes ever ready to infect just anyone. If the mayor is only thinking of her people's health without considering the fact that many of them are left unemployed and without income, that would also be selfish.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.   
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May 05, 2020, 09:05:46 AM
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The mayor's a her.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.  

Thanks for the correction, read through some replies before responding and they all referred to the mayor as a he, so without watching the video or researching on who the mayor exactly was in regards to the gender, I want on with my contribution while addressing the mayor as a he. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.

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The mayor's a her.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.  

[snip]. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.
I supported what you said because despite the global lockdown issue the cases of the virus still increase which proof the lockdown not to be the perfect solution of the pandemic disease and if the lockdown persist there is chance for the economy to collapse and it will take years before it can be resolve.
The casino should be open but giving some social distance rules and restrictions which will prevent the spread of the virus.

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The mayor's a her.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.  

[snip]. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.
I supported what you said because despite the global lockdown issue the cases of the virus still increase which proof the lockdown not to be the perfect solution of the pandemic disease and if the lockdown persist there is chance for the economy to collapse and it will take years before it can be resolve.
The casino should be open but giving some social distance rules and restrictions which will prevent the spread of the virus.

The challenge will be to get most people or everyone to really practice the social distancing with other safety measures. Guess if there is some sort of reward and punishment for obeying or violating the safety rules, more people people will comply without the need for microchipping  or getting people to wear hard-to-remove wearable things.
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May 05, 2020, 10:29:05 AM
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The mayor's a her.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.  

[snip]. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.
I supported what you said because despite the global lockdown issue the cases of the virus still increase which proof the lockdown not to be the perfect solution of the pandemic disease and if the lockdown persist there is chance for the economy to collapse and it will take years before it can be resolve.
The casino should be open but giving some social distance rules and restrictions which will prevent the spread of the virus.

The challenge will be to get most people or everyone to really practice the social distancing with other safety measures. Guess if there is some sort of reward and punishment for obeying or violating the safety rules, more people people will comply without the need for microchipping  or getting people to wear hard-to-remove wearable things.


it is one thing to open the casinos, and another to keep social distancing and more than usual cleaning in the casinos, we should be back to normal, but with better precautions that earlier, people should not stop to wash their hands at least 20 seconds now, and should keep distance, it is important to not to go into second wave of covid
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May 05, 2020, 10:31:49 AM
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The mayor's a her.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.  

[snip]. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.
I supported what you said because despite the global lockdown issue the cases of the virus still increase which proof the lockdown not to be the perfect solution of the pandemic disease and if the lockdown persist there is chance for the economy to collapse and it will take years before it can be resolve.
The casino should be open but giving some social distance rules and restrictions which will prevent the spread of the virus.

The challenge will be to get most people or everyone to really practice the social distancing with other safety measures. Guess if there is some sort of reward and punishment for obeying or violating the safety rules, more people people will comply without the need for microchipping  or getting people to wear hard-to-remove wearable things.

microchipping ?   that was also one of thier ideas to cure the virus right  ? but this isnt the topic here  . there is no need to reward people but punishment has always been there  . i also agree on the coments above that gambling places should continue running  , not just gambling business but other business as well too because we dont know if how long this corona issue will last but one thing for sure is that this quarantine can kill the economy   . it can kill people because people dont have the money   . governments relief is also limited and i dont know if how long they will keep doing it
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May 05, 2020, 10:40:58 AM
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Truth, the lockdown dont limit the number of COVID-19 victims and i also believe the Mayor intention was to make a name for herself just like her husband who was the first Las Vegas Mayor whose image placed on casino chips  but it not something good for a Mayor of a State to ask for the reopening of crowded places like casinos and to be ruled as a placebo.

Anderson even went so far to ask the mayor if she would be willing to stay every night on casinos wherein the workers and the gamblers would be staying just to prove that she is 'with them' in their plight against coronavirus.

If the persistence of the mayor proved to be worthwhile and the city reopens, would you, as a gambler, be willing to get inside one of the many casinos and play there?
Firstly, the OP didnt post Carolyn Goodman respond when she was ask if she going every night on casinos if they reopen,she replied: “First of all, I have a family. I don't gamble."
Nevertheless, this topic have create alot of controversy about Carolyn Goodman.

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May 05, 2020, 11:22:27 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, casino workers don't even want to work amidst coronavirus. The mayor does not even want to step inside the casino along with the worker if ever they will push through the reopening of casinos, but she wants to open it for their own benefits.

We should be expecting our government to keep our safety but what she just showed in the interview is very frustrating. Everyone wants to return to work and stop the economy from crashing but we have no choice but to stay at our houses because of the threat of the virus. Can't she just understand that? Even the interviewer seems shocked by the mayor's belief. If you are a mayor, you would not risk your people's health.

She's going to be questioned a lot after this terrifying crisis, worse is that she will not be a mayor any longer. Because what she thought be helping for the meantime would cost a lot of lives to be at risk. Beside, it is their economy status would get down that it ain't even as worth as many lives, and  who else is safe from it? (I mean the economy falling down). Anway even if I were a gambler from there I won't even give it a go without a second guessing, and no matter how much I miss wandering around. I appricate her intentions but it is really bad no matter which side you look at.

I think her intention was for her own benefit. Saying it's for the economy, but with people dying due to the virus, it's already affecting the economy badly. What more if it becomes uncontrollable? We all know that America is being affected badly by the pandemic yet she wants to reopen everything and act like everything is normal.  They have a huge number of cases and their medical workers are having a hard time handling every case but with her opinion, it will even bring more positive cases in their place.

I think even right now she might lose her credibility because of her stance on the situation. Reopening everything in the middle of the crisis is obviously a bad decision because it might worsen the situation.
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May 05, 2020, 11:29:29 AM
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Reopening everything in the middle of the crisis is obviously a bad decision because it might worsen the situation.

It will.. that is why it did not happen, otherwise people will blame her and she has no power to re open an establishment that are required to be close at this time, so she'll be breaking the law of the land, and she'll face the consequences of her action.

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May 05, 2020, 11:46:22 AM
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I understand the Mayor point and theres no way the quarantine will be the solution to limit the spread of the virus if every individual are not following the good hygiene procedure said by the WHO. Besides, I personally dont see the function of the lockdown which is causing economy meltdown while the pandemic situation keeps getting worse every day.
In the meantime, her request about the opening of casino was not granted.

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May 05, 2020, 11:55:35 AM
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A very bad decision if true casinos reopened in Las Vegas. And if I become a Las Vegas citizen, I don't want to take the risk by playing
at the casino. The condition in America today is still bad, because the spread of the corona virus in America is still the worst. So it's best
not to open up the crowd place like the casino in Las Vegas, until the corona virus is completely stopped.

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May 05, 2020, 12:08:13 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0kjCboHVA

In this interview of Anderson Cooper to Las Vegas' mayor Carolyn Goodman, the head of the city insists that the Vegas should re-open the casinos and restaurants for the welfare of its people. Especially those depending on the said establishments in order to get some money to feed their family. While the reasoning for the city's reopening is with good intention, the reasoning isn't sound and clearly done due to the urge of emotion. Anderson even went so far to ask the mayor if she would be willing to stay every night on casinos wherein the workers and the gamblers would be staying just to prove that she is 'with them' in their plight against coronavirus.

If the persistence of the mayor proved to be worthwhile and the city reopens, would you, as a gambler, be willing to get inside one of the many casinos and play there?
If i am in Her shoe?i will think the same thing because i am losing millions of dollars from taxes since businesses are not operating thinking how large is the income of that city each day and how the people are suffering from no Job.

But on the same thoughts that i will think about the welfare of my people and their health concerns things that very risky in our days now.

Looking how many of the victims had died?prevention is still better than cure.









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May 05, 2020, 12:13:58 PM
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Reopening casinos in Las Vegas. It will not be the same, there is talk to test the temperature to customers, if there are still travel restrictions. The visit to the casino would be less, social distances and all the elements that the gambling and entertainment rooms have. It is a difficult situation, it is an industry that invests and generates a lot of income. We are honestly caught at a crossroads with the Coronavirus where we have to decide between health or the economy.



I am not from the US but doesn't Las Vegas has permanent customers from the inside area?
For sure, travel restrictions are going to have serious impact to the income flow of the casinos but still I am not sure that this is the main stream.
Casinos are not going to open till the situation is stabilized.
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