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May 10, 2020, 05:10:37 PM
Last edit: May 10, 2020, 06:25:34 PM by tweetious
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My interpretation of the no sniping rule - 15 min extension - is a per lot extension from time of last valid bid. So any lot with a bid in the last 15 minutes extends the auction end time 15 minutes from the time of the bid. If no bids in the last 15 minutes of the auction, it ends at time stated in OP (ie. lots 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).

Lot 1 had a bid at 11:48:08 EST, and this lot would now end at 12:03:08 EST. All other lots ended at 12:00:00. No other bids were placed before 12:03:08, the next attempt being at 12:14:00 EST for lot 1, which is invalid. The extension is from the last valid bid time, not the auction end time is my understanding.

as said this is a charity auction, and it is not in my intention to spoil it. I leave it up to ChiBitCTy to do the decisions.

hence last word from me.

It is stated in the auction OP, that "will extend the auctions an additional 15mns " , NOT that will extend the auction by 15 minutes

(edit: meaning that the auction has a specific end time/deadline for accepting bids, & "will extend the auctions an additional 15mns " i.e add 15 more minutes to the auction end time)

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May 10, 2020, 05:53:46 PM
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Sorry missed this ending, just got back on forum .
As far as I’m concerned - I’m easy.
I’m happy for Yabes to take lot 2 - more money for charity. I’ll let chi decide  Smiley

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May 10, 2020, 05:56:40 PM
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My interpretation of the no sniping rule - 15 min extension - is a per lot extension from time of last valid bid. So any lot with a bid in the last 15 minutes extends the auction end time 15 minutes from the time of the bid. If no bids in the last 15 minutes of the auction, it ends at time stated in OP (ie. lots 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).

Lot 1 had a bid at 11:48:08 EST, and this lot would now end at 12:03:08 EST. All other lots ended at 12:00:00. No other bids were placed before 12:03:08, the next attempt being at 12:14:00 EST for lot 1, which is invalid. The extension is from the last valid bid time, not the auction end time is my understanding.


From my short time here, I believe this is the most common practice in 9/10 auctions. However, I have also seen it once or twice where all lots were extended regardless of if only a single lot was actively being sniped.
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May 10, 2020, 05:59:25 PM
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Sorry missed this ending, just got back on forum .
As far as I’m concerned - I’m easy.
I’m happy for Yabes to take lot 2 - more money for charity. I’ll let chi decide  Smiley
It's about fairness not about "value" , i wont debate for that. Cause you know why.
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May 10, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
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Sorry missed this ending, just got back on forum .
As far as I’m concerned - I’m easy.
I’m happy for Yabes to take lot 2 - more money for charity. I’ll let chi decide  Smiley
It's about fairness not about "value" , i wont debate for that. Cause you know why.
All good  Smiley
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May 10, 2020, 06:32:16 PM
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Ohh fuck I’m an idiot ...I am running around at the moment and completely forgot about sniping. Will update everything in about an hour when on PC. My bad y’all !!

( don’t worry anyone, fairness will ensue. This isn’t a Denarium Auction )

Edit : If we need to extend auction we will. I promise everyone will be happy in the end. I feel like an ass. I haven’t read everything completely...Checking out of store now.  Maybe we extend it an extra day ? Would that be an issue ? Sorry guys !!

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May 10, 2020, 07:02:09 PM
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So I fckd this all up. I'm so sorry guys.  Running around and forgot all about sniping.

Would there be issue running it one more day from the orig end time ( auction ends Monday May 11th at 1pm Est) ? I don't know how else to rectify since the timing is now off and not fair to just add an hour or two. I will be adding extras to all winners lots, for starters.   

Anyone have issue with this?  This is for charity after all ( not excusing my ignorance ). I will make this right one way or another.  Thx guys and sorry again.

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May 10, 2020, 07:05:16 PM
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So I fckd this all up. I'm so sorry guys.  Running around and forgot all about sniping.

Would there be issue running it one more day from the orig end time ( auction ends Monday May 11th at 1pm Est) ? I don't know how else to rectify since the timing is now off and not fair to just add an hour or two. I will be adding extras to all winners lots, for starters.   

Anyone have issue with this?  This is for charity after all ( not excusing my ignorance ). I will make this right one way or another.  Thx guys and sorry again.
Am happy with that . Go for it  Smiley
Got my vote for another 24 hrs
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So I fckd this all up. I'm so sorry guys.  Running around and forgot all about sniping.

Would there be issue running it one more day from the orig end time ( auction ends Monday May 11th at 1pm Est) ? I don't know how else to rectify since the timing is now off and not fair to just add an hour or two. I will be adding extras to all winners lots, for starters.   

Anyone have issue with this?  This is for charity after all ( not excusing my ignorance ). I will make this right one way or another.  Thx guys and sorry again.

Playing Satoshi's Advocate over here: you're adding a bonus to all lots and this is for charity. Would be criminal to vote against this  Smiley
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May 10, 2020, 07:11:31 PM
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I am also happy with that  Smiley
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May 10, 2020, 07:20:54 PM
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Kudos to anyone who runs a multiple raffle ar multiple lot raffle !! I’ve run one single item raffle and that took a day out of my life  Smiley
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May 10, 2020, 07:27:32 PM
Last edit: May 10, 2020, 07:56:04 PM by ChiBitCTy
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1 More day added to auction -

 Auctions Ends Monday May 11th at 1PM Eastern Standard Time (New York time).    SNIPING: Any bid made in last 10 minutes will extend the auction 10 minutes beyond the ending time PER LOT. If within those 10 extended minutes, a new bid is made, 10 minutes will be added to the auction from the time of that bid PER LOT.


Thx everyone for being cool w/this.  Will make it up to everyone regardless if you win or not.

Current High Bids

lot 1: BTC 0.0111-  Tweet
lot 2: BTC 0.009-  Yabes
lot 3: BTC 0.0035-  Yabes
lot 4: BTC 0.005-  Geo
lot 5: BTC 0.003 - Geo
lot 6 :BTC 0.007 - Geo




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May 10, 2020, 07:37:49 PM
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Lot :
2 - 0.01
3 - 0.004
4 - 0.0055
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FYI Sniping was updated a bit to make it more clear ( thx MJ for letting me steal this )

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May 10, 2020, 09:08:43 PM
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I will say that I am frustrated that an additional day was added to this auction. No doubt that all who wanted to bid and missed the end are upset, but that is how an auction works, there is a set end time. I watched the end of the auction and no one outbid me, but now it is not honored. Furthermore, a day was added before I was able to weigh in on the auction and I won 5/6 of the lots, which doesn't seem fair, as most would be happy to keep bidding since they lost.

I understand this is for charity, but this auction was up for 7 days, plenty of time for people to see and set reminders of end time. I guess I won't cause too much fuss as this is for charity, and I recognize that. I am frustrated as there were a few items I was genuinely excited to have won. How am I to ever know if an auction will be arbitrarily extended after the fact in the future?
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I will say that I am frustrated that an additional day was added to this auction. No doubt that all who wanted to bid and missed the end are upset, but that is how an auction works, there is a set end time. I watched the end of the auction and no one outbid me, but now it is not honored. Furthermore, a day was added before I was able to weigh in on the auction and I won 5/6 of the lots, which doesn't seem fair, as most would be happy to keep bidding since they lost.

I understand this is for charity, but this auction was up for 7 days, plenty of time for people to see and set reminders of end time. I guess I won't cause too much fuss as this is for charity, and I recognize that. I am frustrated as there were a few items I was genuinely excited to have won. How am I to ever know if an auction will be arbitrarily extended after the fact in the future?

I made an error and did my best to rectify it. I was running around and thought I had talked to all parties. It’s been a hectic day.  I apologize , and could not be more embarrassed by my error.  I will provide you all lots you would have won and it’s completely on me ( not the ones here , Will source outside auction). Does this work for you ? Again, my apologies.

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What a headache
Technically Geo did win the lots as stated per rules fair and square. I was on mobile shopping when this all went down and was thinking I made the error calling it too soon based on how others were upset about sniping rules ( I used same format/template as last charity auction and forgot what they even were sniping wise). I was rushing and not thinking straight and on mobile so it was all just a mess while I’m trying to pick out what to get for dinner.

Geo has been kind enough to work out something with me so the auction continues and all parties are happy in the end and we raise more for charity.  I just wanted to clarify this because I said I fd up but didn’t. I thought my rules were laid out clearly but I guess not to everyone. So, I don’t want anyone walking away feeling slighted. Geo, thanks bud. My apologies to all for a this mess. So all continues as planned but was important I lay this all out for everyone’s sake.

Moral of the story I’m still an idiot.  Embarrassed

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May 11, 2020, 12:31:29 AM
Merited by ChiBitCTy (1), tweetious (1)
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Thank you ChiBitCTy. I realize that you are not out to get anyone and this is for a good cause after all.

To be transparent, this is what we discussed via PM:
1. ChiBitCTy will keep the auction open for an additional day with updated/clarified rules and all lots unchanged. 
2. I will honor all my existing bids in the auction (ie. not retract any existing valid bids already placed).
3. I did not bid for freebies, so in leu of receiving all the lots for free, I have offered to honor my total bid price from the auction (lots 1, 3, 4, 5, 6), 0.029BTC, in exchange for an item(s) of aprox. value yet TBD. This payment will be in addition to any lot(s) that I win (if I win) at the conclusion of the auction extension. This should increase total donated and prevent ChiBitCTy from having to create duplicate lots for free.

Hopefully this will allow everyone to bid, will increase donations to a good cause, and will not wreck anyone financially for donating duplicate lots. I hope this is an acceptable compromise for the collectable community!

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May 11, 2020, 12:32:48 AM
Merited by Hhampuz (1), ChiBitCTy (1), rxalts (1)
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when shit happens wrong - whether intentional or not - there will never be a clear way to make all parties happy. I have been on the end of this several times already in my very short time period here in collectibles - I commend you on making it right with geo and with everyone else as well.

dont lose heart in all of this - and keep up the excellent work you do here.

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May 11, 2020, 04:02:38 PM
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Lot 1: 0.0113BTC
Lot 4: 0.0056BTC
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