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May 04, 2020, 01:20:11 PM Last edit: May 05, 2020, 08:50:44 PM by Timmzzy |
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Greetings everyone, I came across some ideas I believe this should keep https://bitcointalk.org clean, why I said this, is due to the recent topic I made which quotes MULTIPLE deleting ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245604.new#new) features that should be implemented IN THE POST HISTORY section here in the forum, which is for the Post we did on daily basis or in the past. Now my suggestions goes like this BM managers should start making use of the GOOGLE REPORT FORM for every BOUNTY CAMPAIGN that is been introduced to the forum other than posting our reports on the thread of the bounty Campaign these are the rules most BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS implement when running their campaigns. I have been into BOUNTY hunting for a long time and I get to measure the uses of Google form to report our task as a clean and easy method to be implemented. Without saying much here I would like to have your thoughts or opinions over this, so we know if this process should be taken into consideration by the forum ADMINISTRATOR.
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May 04, 2020, 02:01:13 PM |
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I prefer submission of bounty report on bounty thread. Although the bounty thread is getting much bigger due to the submission of the bounty report on bounty thread, there is an advantage as well as a disadvantage to everything. It is often seen that bounty managers make mistakes in stacks calculations. If the bounty report is submitted to the bounty thread, the bounty hunters can correct it by showing his/her weekly report if the bounty manager makes a mistake in the stacks calculation. But if the report is submitted in Google form, Bounty Hunter has nothing to do if Bounty Manager makes a mistake in the stacks calculation.
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May 04, 2020, 02:50:39 PM |
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I'm sure this was suggested by someone else back then (don't remember where is the thread and who was started this) but until now it's can't be done since sheet can be easily manipulated by BM (not saying is BM is manipulator or what) or anyone who can access the sheet.
But it really bored and annoying to see any bounty report on bounties section
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May 04, 2020, 03:19:17 PM |
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Without saying much here I would like to have your thoughts or opinions over this, so we know if this process should be taken into consideration by the forum ADMINISTRATOR. What should forum administrator do? Prohibit the creation of bounty campaigns in current way or implement obligatory google report forms? Those reports spam bounty campaign thread on behalf of OP so it's not making bitcointalk.org less clean. Current bounty organization system has advantages and disadvantages - as ZaraCB said.
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May 04, 2020, 04:23:46 PM |
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This problems have been discussed multiple times on the forum. To be honest admin give us opportunity to do bounty campaign for altcoins even this forum was dedicated for bitcoin at the beginning. If you force to admin create another board that isn't reasonable application in my opinion. More section means more spam and admin have to assign more moderators there.
Solution regarding Google sheet has suggested multiple times to bounty managers. I believe some of bounty managers collect weekly reports via Google sheet (although I am not much familiar with this section). Its totally depends on bounty managers if they are friendly enough to keep clean this forum. Admin or moderators nothing have to do with bounty reports.
Please don't bold necessary part on your post, it will discourage reputed members to read your topic.
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May 04, 2020, 04:36:32 PM |
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I think your idea is good but who cares ? Most bounty managers ask participants to report activity on the thread and only a few managers provide google forms for reporting.
A good manager I think will have good management in managing his work and he must also think about the forum and support other peoples efforts to make the forum look cleaner. But in fact, not many managers care about this on the bounty board. Its about management and manager habits.
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May 04, 2020, 06:10:09 PM |
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As people have said above, this proposal has been implemented many times but many managers still did not implement it. The purpose of reporting is to make it easier for managers to get things done, so these should be decided by the manager. But in fact, personally, I believe that a manager should do all the work based on the information they have without any reporting. The manager can check through the participants' profiles, which also avoids fraud in the reports.
But more importantly, why is this topic in the Meta section? I think it makes more sense if it is in service discussion or service discussion (altcoins)
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May 04, 2020, 07:44:32 PM |
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Another alternative would be to ask bounty campaign participants to post all their weekly reports in a single post. So instead of creating a new post, all they have to do is to edit the initial one and add their reports there. This will reduce the number of replies significantly and help keep the thread clean.
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May 04, 2020, 10:43:38 PM |
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Another alternative would be to ask bounty campaign participants to post all their weekly reports in a single post. So instead of creating a new post, all they have to do is to edit the initial one and add their reports there. This will reduce the number of replies significantly and help keep the thread clean.
Except for 75% of the participants don't speak english and/or don't read rules, so you end up with masses posting new post again and again. And then when you don't count it, you're the bad guy and a scammer. Talking from experience
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May 04, 2020, 11:21:00 PM |
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Another alternative would be to ask bounty campaign participants to post all their weekly reports in a single post. So instead of creating a new post, all they have to do is to edit the initial one and add their reports there. This will reduce the number of replies significantly and help keep the thread clean.
Except for 75% of the participants don't speak english and/or don't read rules, so you end up with masses posting new post again and again. And then when you don't count it, you're the bad guy and a scammer. Talking from experience With a limited number of participants, it's not a problem to post reports. Check social media/content campaigns paid in btc, where all participants strictly follow rules, so it's easy for BM to check and count. In altcoin board, bounties accept un ilimited number of participants with almost no requirements. This is why 75% are noobs with no english and just follow what others do. Results: mega spammy useless threads. I find it impossible for any BM in altcoin board to check and count thousands of links made by thousands of users in a weekly basis. This is the main reason why those maga reports are useless. If a BM is serious in counting, he can just ask participants to post reports anywhere out of here so he keeps his threads as cleaner as possible . But, who cares?
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May 05, 2020, 09:08:21 AM |
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As of bounty manager, I can tell it's not hard for a bounty manager to ask hunters to fill their data through google sheets, But many bounty managers tries not to do this as this will not give their bounty project much bumping each day. Only of this reason, they ask the user to post in the thread instead through google forms. Btw I used my own personal portal to ask the user to provide PoW, and you can see my bounty threads how clean they are.
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May 05, 2020, 08:36:15 PM |
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Greetings everyone, I came across some ideas I believe this should keep https://bitcointalk.org clean, why I said this, is due to the recent topic I made which quotes MULTIPLE deleting ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245604.new#new) features that should be implemented IN THE POST HISTORY section here in the forum, which is for the Post we did on daily basis or in the past. Now my suggestions goes like this BM managers should start making use of the GOOGLE REPORT FORM for every BOUNTY CAMPAIGN that is been introduced to the forum other than posting our reports on the thread of the bounty Campaign these are the rules most BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS implement when running their campaigns. I have been into BOUNTY hunting for a long time and I get to measure the uses of Google form to report our task as a clean and easy method to be implemented. Without saying much here I would like to have your thoughts or opinions over this, so we know if this process should be taken into consideration by the forum ADMINISTRATOR. Reports with Google form, is the best method I will definitely urge the BM to implement in each bounty Campaign they introduced to the forum this alone will keep this forum clean an clear. Everyone is definitely going with REPORTS WITH GOOGLE FORM, which is also my pick.
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May 05, 2020, 08:46:19 PM |
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As of bounty manager, I can tell it's not hard for a bounty manager to ask hunters to fill their data through google sheets, But many bounty managers tries not to do this as this will not give their bounty project much bumping each day. Only of this reason, they ask the user to post in the thread instead through google forms. Btw I used my own personal portal to ask the user to provide PoW, and you can see my bounty threads how clean they are.
I'm sure this was suggested by someone else back then (don't remember where is the thread and who was started this) but until now it's can't be done since sheet can be easily manipulated by BM (not saying is BM is manipulator or what) or anyone who can access the sheet.
But it really bored and annoying to see any bounty report on bounties section
Sorry to cut in, please I will like u to give the full meaning of PoW, and so true I love what you said someone was actually saying that spammers do mess up with the Spreadsheet, which I was thinking that spreadsheet that is been control by you since it your project how possible will that be, which it is still the team who manipulated the Spreadsheet in essence. Frankly speaking I enjoyed giving my reports Google form. I don't believe in bumping which is the believe of those BM who hand's the project or let's say the instructions given to them from the team.
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May 06, 2020, 11:12:18 AM |
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Greetings everyone, I came across some ideas I believe this should keep https://bitcointalk.org clean, why I said this, is due to the recent topic I made which quotes MULTIPLE deleting ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245604.new#new) features that should be implemented IN THE POST HISTORY section here in the forum, which is for the Post we did on daily basis or in the past. Now my suggestions goes like this BM managers should start making use of the GOOGLE REPORT FORM for every BOUNTY CAMPAIGN that is been introduced to the forum other than posting our reports on the thread of the bounty Campaign these are the rules most BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS implement when running their campaigns. I have been into BOUNTY hunting for a long time and I get to measure the uses of Google form to report our task as a clean and easy method to be implemented. Without saying much here I would like to have your thoughts or opinions over this, so we know if this process should be taken into consideration by the forum ADMINISTRATOR. I do not agree with your recommendation. A Google form is controlled and modified by a single entity in this case it is the Bounty Manager. If there is any descripancies then you do not have any backup. You have to depend solely on the entries in the form. Whereas when you are using BTT, you are creating a back up of your entries. You will have an option to check your entries here and tally it with the form. You have to think about both the hunters and the BM.
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May 06, 2020, 11:26:41 AM |
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Without saying much here I would like to have your thoughts or opinions over this, so we know if this process should be taken into consideration by the forum ADMINISTRATOR. [/i]
They will happily avoid this kind of request mate. This topic has nothing to do on forum. Whatever the problem on bounty submission should at least be solved by those active managers on that section. There are some manager doing this kind of reports to avoid too many post on the thread. Btw I used my own personal portal to ask the user to provide PoW, and you can see my bounty threads how clean they are.
I like how you run your campaign mate. Ive been participant before on some of your projects and honestly your one of the managet provided a neat and an automation stake on your platform. Very helpful to avoid reporting post on thread and spam. Bravo to you @irfanpak_10. Can I ask if that still active?
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May 06, 2020, 06:47:12 PM Last edit: May 06, 2020, 07:56:00 PM by TIDOVEE |
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Wait! If I read it well, it mean we will not longer submit massely in thread like this and we may not have to quote again! Using the Google like the registration form?. If so, that is gonna be a greater work,I'm assuming it will be more tasking. Until then anyway. I won't be surprised at many upgrade from now because people will run into Bitcoin during & afterthe bull run.
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May 10, 2020, 11:33:32 AM |
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I already use google form for reports since i manage a bounty for the first project. What i think about this to help this forum more clear from task reporting and bumping unnecessary thread. Its controlled by me? Yes, i controlled the spreadsheet, but, if anyone thinking about reporting manipulation, it because the manager doesn't care of his reputation i think. I remember what my friends say to me "our account reputation more important than campaign you manage, so be careful" so, i wouldn't manipulate anything from member since i agree with my friends.
Mostly of my bounty participants agree with this way. I always trying to more transparent, if member not getting stake, i will happy to give them a time to make a complains, and will provide a proof what the reason he wasn't not getting stake.
I have support from few member, and they are very enjoy with this way. But, in the end BM have own way for their bounty, as far as BM and member not breaking forum rules, i think everything is ok.
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May 10, 2020, 03:11:54 PM |
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The bounty reporting procedure through google forms is absolutely a good move by some bounty managers and somewhere it may be a suitable option to make the bounty thread spam free anyways it depends on bounty managers which option they find more suitable for bounty reports hopefully all bounty managers will consider on this for further bounties if it's for limited participants.
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