Malubit Shills and kotwica666 shilling service

[Lauda]

Because of red flags and witch hunting around me, I decided to leave this forum and do not give back that loan:

Dzisiaj nie wszystko wygląda tak, jak nam się wydaje. To, o co mnie oskarżasz, może ci się również tylko wydawać.

Sorry @zazarb

Proof that you were a bad person and a greedy little polish thief to begin with. Situations like these never change the character, they just show who you really were to begin with. zazarb please create a flag type 2, sorry for your loss.

I will comment on this post later.

You can comment on it, but that does not change the fact that theft is not acceptable.

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[kotwica666]

Because of red flags and witch hunting around me, I decided to leave this forum and do not give back that loan:

Prolongation till 05.04.2020

Loan amount: 0.182505 BTC
Amount to be repaid: 15% interest rate
Repayment Date: 05.04.2020
Amount to be repaid: 0.21 BTC

Thank you

Finally, your accusations are justified!

_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________Dzisiaj nie wszystko wygląda tak, jak nam się wydaje. To, o co mnie oskarżasz, może ci się również tylko wydawać.

Sorry @zazarb

It was a joke for April Fools Day. I warned zazarb about this so that he wouldn't get a heart attack. The loan has been repaid:

Prolongation till 05.04.2020

Loan amount: 0.182505 BTC
Amount to be repaid: 15% interest rate
Repayment Date: 05.04.2020
Amount to be repaid: 0.21 BTC

Thank you

Loan repaid: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/76674fb07372169cf1a4c4c44b6398d62fa67bdec0428a3a7ae7444dd392b498

Thank you zazarb!

Hidden text in Polish in my original post (Which Lauda found, but probably don't even translate it) means:

"Today not everything looks as we think. What you accuse me of, may also only seem to you."

In this way I want to show you that not everything is as it may seem to us.

Stay safe and healthy.

[Lauda]

It was a joke for April Fools Day. I warned zazarb about this so that he wouldn't get a heart attack. The loan has been repaid

Very distasteful joke that was then. 

[Harkorede]

Seems malubit are scammers after all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229445.msg53937266#msg53937266
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224028.msg54042532#msg54042532
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229445.msg54205958#msg54205958

I told OP to create flag, I will edit post ànd add it here for support


Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1647

[barbaron]

I have added the second story of my experience with Malubit.com in order to catch these scammers:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229445.msg54205958#msg54205958

Best of luck to all!

[gatsby60]

The other Malubit threads are locked.  But just wanted to bump this for everyone that was discussing the validity of this site a couple of months ago.  Site is down and has been for a couple of weeks.

[JollyGood]

I am generally highly suspicious and sceptical of websites that have little or no history either online itself or within this forum, when they come along making signature campaigns and then having all sorts of people signing up for signature campaigns promoting the websites without making even the most basic of checks.

I am not surprised there are allegations against Malubit and other websites because their plan from day one was to use this forum by any means necessary to promote their scams before making their exit. The tragedy is campaign participants are constantly and consistently promoting highly questionable projects (or out and out scams) just to line their own pockets with a share of the signature funds regardless of the moral questions at the heart of participating in these types of signature campaigns.

[TalkStar]

Site is down and has been for a couple of weeks.

End of another drama. Its quite common for all fake and dishonest projects. When they have got no explanation to defend real accusations at that time they follow the easiest way of "give up". Its not an ending actually where they got realisation that nothing more left on that domain. Today or tomorrow they will continue their old game with another new product.

when they come along making signature campaigns and then having all sorts of people signing up for signature campaigns promoting the websites without making even the most basic of checks.

Yeah its true that some project owner wants to build their reputation and trust level by taking advantage of signature campaign. Professional campaign managers can make this way much narrower for them and proper investigation is the key factor there. Actually some participants just join for money and they don't care much about its legality or service. At that stage campaign manager is the decision maker to take their work or not. In my opinion every well reputated manager always care about their service rather than helping risky platforms to launch their campaigns. 

[tyKiwanuka]

It would maybe help to "allow" any (gambling) signature campaigns only after like 6+ months upon opening official ANN thread here in this forum. This would give the community the possibility to check out the site, before it gets a lot of attention with a signature campaign. This is still no guarantee, it's just a higher hurdle for the scammers, because they would have to operate in a legit and honest way for quite some time. Should be no problem for any serious site, scammers might not have the stamina to do that

Not sure, what others think about it or if it's feasible. And it's another rule and rules are bad

[Harkorede]

It would maybe help to "allow" any (gambling) signature campaigns only after like 6+ months upon opening official ANN thread here in this forum. This would give the community the possibility to check out the site, before it gets a lot of attention with a signature campaign. This is still no guarantee, it's just a higher hurdle for the scammers, because they would have to operate in a legit and honest way for quite some time. Should be no problem for any serious site, scammers might not have the stamina to do that

Not sure, what others think about it or if it's feasible. And it's another rule and rules are bad

Firstly, with the scams are not moderated policy, this wouldn't work, take a look at the altcoins bounties sections for instance, you can hardly findly a single project worth spending a dollar on out of the hundreds of outright scams, but the threads keep popping out.

I think the necessary attention which the signature campaign brings to them is one of the factors (probbaly) that helps expose them sooner rather than later, I don't think 6 months would be a long term for a project that is so bent on scamming, at least if they are lucky enough not to need payout some very big winnings during their start up and profits being made could keep them up and running for as long it is required, we've seen icos prolong for a longer period just to end up being a scam, it might even be some what harder for non-reputable users to raise a valid claim on them when they start building a better reputation that 6 months of legitimate and honest functioning will afford them, except there are substantial evidences.

[JollyGood]

A time period would be good before allowing these types of new businesses having signature campaigns but would the owners take an interest in it?

It would maybe help to "allow" any (gambling) signature campaigns only after like 6+ months upon opening official ANN thread here in this forum. This would give the community the possibility to check out the site, before it gets a lot of attention with a signature campaign. This is still no guarantee, it's just a higher hurdle for the scammers, because they would have to operate in a legit and honest way for quite some time. Should be no problem for any serious site, scammers might not have the stamina to do that

Not sure, what others think about it or if it's feasible. And it's another rule and rules are bad

[Lakai01]

It would maybe help to "allow" any (gambling) signature campaigns only after like 6+ months upon opening official ANN thread here in this forum.
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This is indeed a very good idea, albeit difficult to implement. If I were a scammer who only wanted to cheat as many people as possible with my site, I could circumvent the rules quite easily. I'm founding the site, I'm not advertising it at all and therefore I won't have many players, if any.
After 6 months I come and say that my site has been around long enough to have a signature campaign.
But of course it is definitely a hurdle, although one that can easily be overcome

We had here already once the discussion that signature campaigns may be held either only by renowned BMs or at least accounts with a high rank and good trust. This would go in a similar direction and definitely also represent a big hurdle for an intentional scam, as here money would have to be taken in hand at least once to hire someone to carry out the signature campaign - of course, at the same time it also discourages legitimate companies from starting a signature campaign at all.

[tyKiwanuka]

This is indeed a very good idea, albeit difficult to implement. If I were a scammer who only wanted to cheat as many people as possible with my site, I could circumvent the rules quite easily. I'm founding the site, I'm not advertising it at all and therefore I won't have many players, if any.
After 6 months I come and say that my site has been around long enough to have a signature campaign.

This would not work; you maybe misunderstood my post or I wasn't clear enough In your case, no matter how old your company is, you would have to open an official ANN in this forum first. I say "official", because a thread like "Hey, there is a new bookmaker, check it out" wouldn't qualify. It has to be a proper, not self-moderated thread, where you introduce your company to the community. In the next 6 months (it can be any timeframe) you would have to prove yourself. If all looks legit after these 6 months, you would be allowed to open a signature campaign.

So it would take 6 months of being nice until you are able to get more attention via campaign and could start scamming. This is probably too long for the average scammer, but not sure.