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May 07, 2020, 06:36:15 AM
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Just today morning came across an news from forbes, Google Algorithm Update: Did Google Just Censor Bitcoin?

Google being giant player in the market could be potential puller for the crypto fans. So some morning you just wake up and see no news about bitcoin, you can't search about it with important news around us, you can't watch analysis videos on youtube may turn out to be unwanted gesture for bitcoin community.

What are your thoughts regarding such moves from Google.


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1. Google may release an algorithm to censor the Bitcoin searches from its search engine
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According to Search Engine Land, Google GOOGL is rolling out a new core algorithm update in May. Christopher Jaszczynski, who is a technical on-chain analyst, speaker, and YouTuber says, “This is public knowledge. Since Google owns YouTube this is also escalating from media outlets that rely on Google traffic to bitcoin and crypto YouTubers. All big bitcoin YouTuber’s including our MMCrypto channel are now being shadowbanned.”

2. It has already made it difficult for the YouTubers to upload content associated with the cryptocurrencies.

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Runefelt adds, “I've never seen this before on my channel, and now it is happening to all of the biggest YouTubers in the bitcoin space simultaneously in the past few days. After three hours of uploading the video, suddenly the views drop by 90%, and it can not be seen in search results. Also, some of my 100,000 subscribers have reported that my videos are no longer getting recommended to them.”


3. It will impact the chain of educating people regarding crypto currencies.

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Education is important. “People have to be educated about things like gold and bitcoin to secure their wealth. Central banks are printing more money than ever and if this continues we might see hyperinflation evolving in a few years. If people are not prepared the lower and middle class will be hit the hardest. We really want to educate people on monetary policy, financial markets, on-chain analysis, and bitcoin. That's why we need independent media covering these things,” says Jaszczynski.


4. It will throw back the right time for publication of Bitcoin stuff when the Halving is on its verge!

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An auspicious time for censorship

Google’s alleged crypto censorship comes at an auspicious time. Right now, bitcoin is about to enter its third halving, an event that has historically seen bitcoin reach all-time new highs. Jaszczynski says, “One important thing to note is that this third bitcoin and crypto purge is happening at a very interesting timing. The bitcoin halving is going to go down in 4 days.”
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May 07, 2020, 06:53:14 AM
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It has already rolled out a new algorithm this month and webmasters are feeling the pinch. A lot of projects have seena steep decline in traffic. The most hard hit are news aggregator websites and new websites.

I am not sure if it has affected only the crypto niche but according to the discussion on most web based forum the impact is seen throughout on all niches.

I doubt it will only target cryptocurrency market as it will be a loss on their part. I think it's focus is more on good and unique contents.
 

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May 07, 2020, 06:55:10 AM
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I am not sure if Google wants to ride against the tide and wants to shadow-ban crypto related content! But if this has happened, that may have dire consequences on crypto market. While everyone is sitting at home due to the current situation, the interest about bitcoin and cryptos are increasing exponentially. I recently read an article which says that Indian cryptocurrency exchanges are seeing 10x surge in trading volume during the lock down period.

News reference: https://news.bitcoin.com/indian-crypto-boom/

Also we have seen surge in pricing as well during this time period. These are indicators which shows that interest about bitcoin is increasing among the mass. All online media websites have a habit of sensitizing news reports to get more hits. The one you referenced, seems like a classic example!

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May 07, 2020, 06:56:42 AM
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I thought this already made the past year/s like somehow Google ban crypto ads and seen this one as well on Forbes the last year. I know that would make a big impact but if you really want to know about Bitcoin, there are other browsers and platforms to be an alternative for Google and YouTube. What was really the reason they are banning such information?
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May 07, 2020, 07:19:53 AM
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I thought this already made the past year/s like somehow Google ban crypto ads and seen this one as well on Forbes the last year. I know that would make a big impact but if you really want to know about Bitcoin, there are other browsers and platforms to be an alternative for Google and YouTube. What was really the reason they are banning such information?

To be frank that I was going to point out in my OP itself, however it seems that most of the users are from Google Engine. Im sure if they are using it then it's their favourite one and gives them what they actually want.

I have seen other search engines, when you search a specific term then Google will pull out 100% match with what you searched while other engines will pull out gibberish stuff mostly.

You can see popularity of Google over others with following stats:


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So may be it would be hard to switch and still get that much traffic. Its unworthy to try.
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May 07, 2020, 07:30:39 AM
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This will never happen. Youtube has banned people from posting videos about crypto only because thier videos are too similar to a comercial. But google search results will not change.

The reason why the Youtubers are banned is simple, they are advertising thier products etc. Its almost like tv commercials on Youtube, why would they allow that?

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May 07, 2020, 07:47:42 AM
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This will never happen. Youtube has banned people from posting videos about crypto only because thier videos are too similar to a comercial. But google search results will not change.

The reason why the Youtubers are banned is simple, they are advertising thier products etc. Its almost like tv commercials on Youtube, why would they allow that?

Thats the thing here. They are thinking about their TRP's not bitcoin's. So if you speak from BTC side then its gonna hamper someway other to the community that is involved in crypto currency.

In the first place they are doing it for their self only. Otherwise what harm a popular crypto world can do to these mega companies that I dont understand in the first place ?

In-fact they can get huge revenue from advertiser network if they start to put ads for crypto projects. Already BTC is widely searched term and the adsense can easily display ads related to it over wide crowd.
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May 07, 2020, 07:53:46 AM
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Google is flipping it's preference in and out of crypto. A universal adoption of crypto could be a threat to its financial policy while crypto ads are one of it's large revenue. Facebook too is doing the same. And as they decided not to take crypto ads, they have been overall hostile to crypto related sites and projects. This is one of the reason why we need a decentralized advertisement and google apps alternative.


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May 07, 2020, 08:10:39 AM
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I don't think they will go that far. If they wanted to really do so, they would have implemented the ban long back. The shadow ban that you're worried about is related to crypto youtubers and their content which is directly related to their other service (Youtube).

I still have no idea why Youtube is going to such lengths to ban crypto related videos which is a shame. Censoring BTC and other crypto related stuff would hurt their revenue which is why I wouldn't worry op.

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May 07, 2020, 08:10:56 AM
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Well, this is more reason we shouldn't be relying too much on centralized platforms. It's actually abit strange how popular crypto personalities rely so much on them and hardly promote the decentralized alternatives. Show me a popular crypto person who consistently promotes cryptocurrency/decentralization and uses decentralized tech more than the centralized ones, and I will show a true believer. He/she practice what he/she preaches and could easily be a really good "leader" in this space.

 Such censorship hardly surprise me.
 
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May 07, 2020, 10:16:29 AM
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I think this article is an overstatement. It's based on stuff said by a guy who wasn't happy with technical analysis videos being restricted on YouTube. TA is borderline stuff, it's neither science nor scam but something in between. So while I don't think it's great when content is banned, I would not fiercely defend accounts that publish it either.
When I google 'Bitcoin', I don't see 'it's a scam' or something like that on the first page of search results, so I think it's good enough. Hopefully, they won't go as far as changing that. It's May already, so I guess we'll see soon. In any case, they probably won't make the changes before halving due to the lack of time.

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May 07, 2020, 11:52:01 AM
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This is quite misleading, you're telling that google wants to suppress Bitcoin searches, but your link talk about some shitcoin promoters being salty that their videos don't have enough views. Even if Google really is responsible for that, it's not the same as attacking Bitcoin or all of crypto, they probably get a lot of reports about those channels that promote scams or try to sell trading advises, so they are taking actions. So far I don't remember a single case when some really good channel or video was taken down, it's the shady ones that get hit.
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May 07, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
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Let us wait and see if this will really be implemented. I hope not and I seriously doubt it will happen, but if they are serious about this and this will really happen, then so be it.

The most probable thing to happen is that some contents pertaining to crypto or Bitcoin will be blocked or limited in terms of reach. So the hammer falls most likely to some cryptocurrency news, technical analyses, and the like, which are mostly half-baked and misleading anyway.

I don't think the basic and the most important information about Bitcoin will be blocked. But if they are, well, Bitcoin cannot be censored. Everybody is aware of that. Not by Google nor by any other entity. 

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May 07, 2020, 01:44:17 PM
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Let us wait and see if this will really be implemented. I hope not and I seriously doubt it will happen, but if they are serious about this and this will really happen, then so be it.

The most probable thing to happen is that some contents pertaining to crypto or Bitcoin will be blocked or limited in terms of reach. So the hammer falls most likely to some cryptocurrency news, technical analyses, and the like, which are mostly half-baked and misleading anyway.

I don't think the basic and the most important information about Bitcoin will be blocked. But if they are, well, Bitcoin cannot be censored. Everybody is aware of that. Not by Google nor by any other entity. 

They've once ban advertising crypto before and they can make bitcoin disappear in searches if they want to. Such butthurt like they can really stop the growth of BTC. I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook will play along with them again.

If its really going to keep this way thousands of users again will be registering this forum like what happen last 2017.

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This is quite misleading, you're telling that google wants to suppress Bitcoin searches, but your link talk about some shitcoin promoters being salty that their videos don't have enough views.

I want my 60 seconds I spent checking those channels back...
Seriously, Dailymail and the other tabloids look like the memories of Sun Tzu compared to the junk I see there.

I assume they were hit because their titles have started to become irrelevant to searches
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May 07, 2020, 09:28:34 PM
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Let us wait and see if this will really be implemented. I hope not and I seriously doubt it will happen, but if they are serious about this and this will really happen, then so be it.

The most probable thing to happen is that some contents pertaining to crypto or Bitcoin will be blocked or limited in terms of reach. So the hammer falls most likely to some cryptocurrency news, technical analyses, and the like, which are mostly half-baked and misleading anyway.

I don't think the basic and the most important information about Bitcoin will be blocked. But if they are, well, Bitcoin cannot be censored. Everybody is aware of that. Not by Google nor by any other entity. 

They've once ban advertising crypto before and they can make bitcoin disappear in searches if they want to. Such butthurt like they can really stop the growth of BTC. I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook will play along with them again.

If its really going to keep this way thousands of users again will be registering this forum like what happen last 2017.
It would really be pain in the ass if that thing ever can possibly happen.We know on what are the capabilities of Google but doesnt mean that we would completely stop on here.
Yeah, it can cripple out but doesnt mean that it will surely stop crypto from flying or do stop the adoption.

I dont think so about people on registering this forum if that situation comes but surely people will really find out a away on how to deal up with things.

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May 08, 2020, 09:19:12 AM
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My channel also got shadowbanned. To sad that every cryptotuber gets censored!! Where's freedom of speech??

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May 08, 2020, 10:14:37 AM
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I have seen a title of one YouTube video that says YouTube is trying to shadow ban bitcoin contents. I didn't watched the video because, I thought it's just a clickbait and it happened in the past just this year when they had admitted it's because of the sudden change in algorithm which resulted to wrong deletion of bitcoin contents.

Let's just wait if the actual scenario happens, after all, it's just all reports and rumors until it's proven and witnessed by most of us.

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May 08, 2020, 10:22:16 AM
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They've once ban advertising crypto before and they can make bitcoin disappear in searches if they want to. Such butthurt like they can really stop the growth of BTC. I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook will play along with them again.
Really? I don't remember this happening at all. Youtube, Twitter, Facebook etc banned crypto at certain points and lifted the bans at other points, but I have never heard of Google doing something like this.

I have always been able to find anything crypto related through Google primarily without any sort of issues. Facebook is focused on their own coin these days which is why they focus less on other cryptocurrencies.

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May 08, 2020, 10:29:44 AM
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dont know bout you but i still see crypto news and recomendations on my stock browser though its not a google chrome  but on google chrome browsers or any related to it might be  .  maybe this was the follow up operation of google to the mass deletion of youtube channel and videos related to cryptos   . this is really a bad news if this continues because no new people cant hear the words of bitcoin anymore  but the faith for bitcoin of existing users are still here and will be more stronger after this 
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