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May 08, 2020, 06:51:28 AM
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Definitely I believe there is a warning sign of how you will post in the forum. This is not a chat room where you just come start posting any how even saying what is not making sense. You really have to follow rules in other words understand what Bitcointalk is all about before you start posting.


I think the OP focused only WHAT IS PUBLISHED without further browsing the whole forum. He may scheme some threads, but haven't understand the whole purpose of the forum itself, making him doubtful why his actions are implicitly forbidden / punishable by ban in the forum. And no wonder why the management nor other old users here doesn't even bother helping him, as his actions and posting style seems to be carried out of anger and hate to the forum's written rules itself.

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May 08, 2020, 08:51:14 AM
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What are you talking about? It is forbidden to write what I think? Really? Are we in North Korea???
OK. Realized. It seems I have violated secret forum rules:
1. It is forbidden to write here what you think
2. It is strongly forbidden to write here if you are not asked anything.

Thank you for clarification!
Just to clarify, this is the pertinent rule: "No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads"

Really, it casts a large enough net/umbrella to catch most of the varied forms of spam. Burst posting is merely an action that one performs to create multiple spam posts.
A spam post could be deemed so due to the context of the thread:

Suppose there are already 10 replies, of which highlight similar solutions or remarks about the given topic. If you decide to write an 11th reply and fail to add anything of substance that is novel, then you are merely repeating the previous replies in the thread and thereby not contributing to the discussion. Thus, insubstantial quality - multiple posts of this kind in quick succession would likely be considered "burst posting".
Pedantry does get tiresome, doesn't it?

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May 08, 2020, 09:18:07 AM
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OK, I tried to distrust ~DefaultTrust previously with the \~DefaultTrust but it didn't look to have worked.  How do I ~ both ~DefaultTrust and ~~DefaultTrust ??

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May 08, 2020, 09:33:04 AM
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OK, I tried to distrust ~DefaultTrust previously with the \~DefaultTrust but it didn't look to have worked.  How do I ~ both ~DefaultTrust and ~~DefaultTrust ??
You've got it the other way 'round:

"If you want to trust someone whose name begins with a tilde, prefix their name with a backslash."
It's as easy as
~~DefaultTrust
~~~DefaultTrust

As stupid as it looks.

Backslash is only to get rid of the intended meaning of the tilde, which is to distrust... and since you're not looking to trust "~[...]" but rather distrust, you needn't use a backslash.

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May 08, 2020, 09:42:39 AM
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OK, I tried to distrust ~DefaultTrust previously with the \~DefaultTrust but it didn't look to have worked.  How do I ~ both ~DefaultTrust and ~~DefaultTrust ??
You've got it the other way 'round:

"If you want to trust someone whose name begins with a tilde, prefix their name with a backslash."
It's as easy as
~~DefaultTrust
~~~DefaultTrust

As stupid as it looks.

Backslash is only to get rid of the intended meaning of the tilde, which is to distrust... and since you're not looking to trust "~[...]" but rather distrust, you needn't use a backslash.
Thanks for the info.

Justs wondering If his new account was banned then he will create a new one and name it ~~~DefaultTrust and so on. ~~~~~~~~~ Grin

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I guess you just have a bunch of low-quality posts that would make you a spammer, maybe the moderator makes a decision at your account also I think you already notice a lot of negative feedback because of your username.

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May 08, 2020, 09:45:14 AM
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Thanks for the info.

Justs wondering If his new account was banned then he will create a new one and name it ~~~DefaultTrust and so on. ~~~~~~~~~ Grin
I'm not sure how much QA testing theymos has done with the distrust/trust lists but hopefully it can handle the edge cases of strange character interactions with backslashes and tildes in one's name.

Not sure if you can even register with something like \\~\~~DefaultTrust but surely it looks like it might have a chance to break something Smiley

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May 08, 2020, 10:00:05 AM
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Thanks for the info.

Justs wondering If his new account was banned then he will create a new one and name it ~~~DefaultTrust and so on. ~~~~~~~~~ Grin
I'm not sure how much QA testing theymos has done with the distrust/trust lists but hopefully it can handle the edge cases of strange character interactions with backslashes and tildes in one's name.

Not sure if you can even register with something like \\~\~~DefaultTrust but surely it looks like it might have a chance to break something Smiley

Agree, The username with a ~ should not be allowed in the forum it might create some software bugs in the distrust/trust lists or maybe not but we never know, the forums is not perfect.

either this ~DefaultTrust since it has bad feedback something like impersonating the DefaultTrust.


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May 08, 2020, 10:12:24 AM
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Yes I know that this is a temp ban. But I think that bans should have preventive goals.
Therefore, I would like to know: what exactly did I do wrong?

is this burst?




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May 08, 2020, 10:24:09 AM
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A spam post could be deemed so due to the context of the thread:

Suppose there are already 10 replies, of which highlight similar solutions or remarks about the given topic. If you decide to write an 11th reply and fail to add anything of substance that is novel, then you are merely repeating the previous replies in the thread and thereby not contributing to the discussion. Thus, insubstantial quality - multiple posts of this kind in quick succession would likely be considered "burst posting".
Pedantry does get tiresome, doesn't it?

It looks logical. But I would like to see a comment from administration: Is it forbidden to post to thread if the post is not offtopic but out of context (as it described above)?

Look at example:

start post: bitcoin will grow because will halving.
post 2: halving does not affect growth because: fact1, fact2
post 3: halving affects growth because: fact3, fact4
post 4: I think this we can not get a consensus because: fact5, fact6
post 5: I agree that bitcoin will grow because will halving: fact2

So "post 6" is a spam and author should be banned?

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May 08, 2020, 12:42:42 PM
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Look at example:

start post: bitcoin will grow because will halving.
post 2: halving does not affect growth because: fact1, fact2
post 3: halving affects growth because: fact3, fact4
post 4: I think this we can not get a consensus because: fact5, fact6
post 5: I agree that bitcoin will grow because will halving: fact2

So "post 6" is a spam and author should be banned?


Enough trolling, give them example from your post history. About growing...
Example 1:
Topic Пoчeмy биткoйн бyдeт pacти дaльшe (Translation: Why Bitcoin will keep growing)
Биткoин кoнeчнo бyдeт pacти дaльшe, пoтoмy чтo инфляция пoдтaлкивaeт в pocт вce вaлюты. Paнo или пoзднo, биткoин выpacтeт бoльшe 20к бaкcoв и вce тepпилы кoтopыe зaкyпилиcь нa xaяx нaкoнeц-тo cмoгyт пpoдaть cвoи битки и зaбыть пpo ниx кaк пpo cтpaшный coн.
Translation: "Bitcoin will keep growing because inflation drives up all the currencies."
Ecть мнoгo фyндaмeнтaльныx пpичин для pocтa биткoинa. Cпeкyлятивнaя cocтaвляющaя тyт игpaeт нeмaлoвaжнyю poль. Oднaкo глaвнoй нa мoй взгляд cocтaвляющeй pocтa, являeтcя вce бoльшaя инфopмиpoвaннocть людeй o тoм, чтo этo зa тexнoлoгия и нacкoлькo oнa мoжeт быть пoлeзнoй.
Translation: "There are many fundamental reasons for the growth of bitcoin. The speculative component plays an important role here. But the key to growth, in my view, is that people are increasingly aware of what this technology is and how useful it can be."
Coмнeвaюcь, чтo биткoин cильнo выpacтeт в ближaйшeм бyдyщeм. Cyдя пo тpeндaм, кypc ceйчac в paйoнe пикa пocлe кoтopoгo либo флэт либo paзвopoт. Tpeйдepaм ceйчac caмoe вpeмя зaфикcиpoвaтьcя.
Translation: "I don’t think Bitcoin is going to grow very much in the near future. Judging by the trends, the course now is at the peak of which either a flat or a turn. It’s time for the traders to lock down."
Дyмaю биткoин выpacтeт блaгoдapя гpядyщeмy yпoлoвинивaнию нaгpaды зa блoк. Ecли вcпoмнить пpeдыдyщee yпoлoвинивaниe, тo oнo пpивeлo к peзкoмy pocтy цeны дo 20к дoллapoв. Пoживeм-yвидим. Ocтaлocь coвceм нe дoлгo.
Translation: "I think Bitcoin is going to grow because of the upcoming reward for the block. And if you look back at the previous one, it led to a sharp rise in the price of 20k dollars. Let’s see. It’s not much longer."
Интepecнo, aвтop имeл в видy pocт нa кaкoм пepиoдe? Ecли aнaлизиpoвaть биpжeвыe гpaфики, тo пpeкpacнo виднo, чтo биткoин тo pacтeт, тo пaдaeт. Ecли имeeтcя в видy pocт в дoлгocpoкe, тo пpичинoй pocтa мoжнo нaзвaть пocтoяннoe yвeличeниe cлoжнocти дoбычи, a знaчит и ceбecтoимocти. Цeнa нe мoжeт быть нижe ceбecтoимocти.
Translation: "Interestingly, the author was referring to the growth in what period? If you look at the stock charts, you can see that the bitcoin grows and falls. If long-term growth is meant, the reason for the increase is a constant increase in the difficulty of extraction and thus in the cost of production. The price cannot be lower than cost."

Looks like you just reworded what was written in the subject before and added low value posts.

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May 08, 2020, 01:41:16 PM
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Looks like you just reworded what was written in the subject before and added low value posts.

Thank you for the answer. Can you explain please: if my posts are low values then why you still have not deleted them?
When my posts are deleted, it serves as a signal that I'm doing something wrong. How do you rate the quality of the post?
Or the problem is that sometimes I can change my mind to the opposite? Is it be better if I will posting all my mind's from different accounts?
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May 08, 2020, 01:59:25 PM
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When my posts are deleted, it serves as a signal that I'm doing something wrong.

Normaly it should be already a signal for you when a post or a thread gets deleted from you !
You will or should get a pm notification when a post or thread from you got deleted !

According from Bpip : For your Account are Posts deleted by moderators: 16
Guess this should be are enough Signal or !

Is it be better if I will posting all my mind's from different accounts?

How many Accounts you have ?
Hopefully not each for every mind  Cheesy

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According from Bpip : For your Account are Posts deleted by moderators: 16
Guess this should be are enough Signal or !
You right. Every time when my post is deleted I adjust my behavior on the forum. When posts are not deleted then for me it is a signal that I'm doing everything right

How many Accounts you have ?
Hopefully not each for every mind  Cheesy

How do you think about: Is it will better if my account "~DefaultTrust" will writing about like "bitcoin will grow" and "~~DefaultTrust" will writing "bitcoin will down". This is all my minds.
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May 08, 2020, 02:55:07 PM
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When posts are not deleted then for me it is a signal that I'm doing everything right

You shouldn't assume that.

Just because some of your posts don't break the forum rules, this doesn't mean that they add anything to the forum.
Most of them are just extremely low effort posts.

Almost all of them are one-liner. Do you really think this means "doing everything right" ?

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May 08, 2020, 03:21:22 PM
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Almost all of them are one-liner.

Maybe you just have a monitor width ten times its height?
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49--chg90-qled-gaming-monitor-lc49hg90dmnxza/
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May 08, 2020, 03:40:23 PM
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Are you trolling?

Come on man, a member of staff has already stated the problem.
Just follow his advice and the rules?
Cant be that hard?  Roll Eyes
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Are you trolling?

Come on man, a member of staff has already stated the problem.
Just follow his advice and the rules?
Cant be that hard?  Roll Eyes

Are you read the topic or just work for your signature here?
I have already answer to "a member of staff" and I hope to get an answer from him. And can you say something useful?
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Nevermind.

You really dont understand the rules at all Cheesy
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May 08, 2020, 04:11:26 PM
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You're evading your ban, which may get you a permanent one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186616.msg54388899#msg54388899

It was quite obvious that your account had no purpose other than trolling but thanks for proving it conclusively.
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May 08, 2020, 04:27:51 PM
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You're evading your ban, which may get you a permanent one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186616.msg54388899#msg54388899

I do this with the approval of the moderator
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186616.msg54387139#msg54387139

It was quite obvious that your account had no purpose other than trolling but thanks for proving it conclusively.

This statement is true for my account as well as for your


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