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May 10, 2020, 09:35:52 PM
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I was informed by a PM from the bounty manager of the project that I signed today. @Lauda left negative feedback on my profile.

The reason for this is that I support in a title opened by @ Vispilio. In the meantime, let me tell you briefly about @ Vispilio with a summary. He is someone who is the most reliable and commissioned merit source in the Turkish community because his ideas are given importance by the forum administrators. In other words, @Lauda has left my profile untrustworthy because I support not only an ordinary person but also someone who is appreciated by the forum administration!

If it was unsafe to say that someone could succeed in the forum, I'm sure we should have painted the vast majority of the forum in red. Moreover, I would bet that @ Lauda said it was his own gang. I don't care about Lauda's ideas either. I also know that there are enough people in the forum who do not like him. Because if anyone knows what other benefits Lauda has to the forum other than planting hate seeds, please tell us!

Another question is for our bounty manager who tells me to solve this problem in order not to disqualify me from the bounty I am in. How accurate is my disqualification from bounty as someone who doesn't even have DT1 or DT2 leaves negative feedback on my profile?

Finally, I have not acted in a "gang" in the forum until today! @Vispilio only reported that I support because it makes a difference with its information in the forum and has the capacity to accomplish the job. I don't regret this. I still think that he can do the job given to him. I would not hesitate to support them if they were candidates for such a job with other very valuable friends like him, who cannot count their name one by one!




BTW, I looked at all members of 777Coin signature profiles. 11 other members has a negative feedback in their profile also!
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May 10, 2020, 09:45:11 PM
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I can't see any valid trusted feedback on your profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=448601;dt

The one Lauda left is untrusted, so it shouldn't be relevant and your account is fine.  Smiley

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May 10, 2020, 09:55:29 PM
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I can't see any valid trusted feedback on your profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=448601;dt

The one Lauda left is untrusted, so it shouldn't be relevant and your account is fine.  Smiley


Please also say this to @CryptopreneurBrainboss!

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May 10, 2020, 10:11:59 PM
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Sounds like something you should resolve with your campaign manager. What is the purpose of this thread? Lauda has already been excluded from DT. Despite Vispilio's extensive trolling, forum administration is not going to get involved in signature campaigns.
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May 10, 2020, 10:15:15 PM
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I can't see any valid trusted feedback on your profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=448601;dt

The one Lauda left is untrusted, so it shouldn't be relevant and your account is fine.  Smiley


Please also say this to @CryptopreneurBrainboss!


You can just send him a PM including a link to this topic here and the issue will be solved.

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May 10, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
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Another question is for our bounty manager who tells me to solve this problem in order not to disqualify me from the bounty I am in. How accurate is my disqualification from bounty as someone who doesn't even have DT1 or DT2 leaves negative feedback on my profile?



This is the most absurd excuse made to disqualify a member. Feedback left by a member who is not on the DT1 or DT2 list. It cannot be taken into consideration.


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May 10, 2020, 10:31:05 PM
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Another question is for our bounty manager who tells me to solve this problem in order not to disqualify me from the bounty I am in. How accurate is my disqualification from bounty as someone who doesn't even have DT1 or DT2 leaves negative feedback on my profile?
You should probably continue discussing with @CryptopreneurBrainboss About the issue, I don't think it's that complicated... the rules of the campaign say
★ If you have negative trust on level 2 default trust setting, you aren't allowed to participate in this campaign. If you achieve negative red trust level 2 while you are in this campaign, you will be terminated, denied payment & removed from the campaign.
But Lauda isn't on DT. It would be so unfair if he removed you.


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May 10, 2020, 10:36:29 PM
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those who play with the labor of people are dishonest
I condemn the attacks on people who have struggled for years and got a clean account
this trust system is unfair
I invite everyone to revolt
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May 10, 2020, 10:41:25 PM
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But Lauda isn't on DT. It would be so unfair if he removed you.
I definitely agree with that.  I'm wondering if the campaign manager (and am I correct in assuming it's CryptopreneurBrainboss?) has Lauda on his trust list and therefore Lauda's neg on OP would indeed show up as trusted.  That's my understanding at least.

Once again, I don't agree with one of Lauda's negs and I don't think OP has any marks against him in my book after reading Lauda's reasoning.  I hate this; I used to value Lauda's opinions and feedbacks greatly, but I think now's the time for me to finally ~Lauda in my trust settings.

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May 10, 2020, 11:06:14 PM
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This was why you received the message from me

I saw the feedback on default when I access your profile. I thought it was a resolvable issue which is why I added the comment on spreadsheet. Assuming you were removed, your current spot would had be occupied and open slot for your rank would had been announced, also it would had been stated clearly on the comment section that you have been removed but that's not the case.

Sorry for the inconveniences, comment removed. You're back in.

BTW, I looked at all members of 777Coin signature profiles. 11 other members has a negative feedback in their profile also!

All inherited members from the previous manager (Respect @Hhampuz), only new cases of red trust I'm mostly interested in at the moment.

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May 10, 2020, 11:59:29 PM
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But Lauda isn't on DT. It would be so unfair if he removed you.

Even if Lauda was on DT, the feedback doesn't seem legitimate, any reputable manager would probably have overlooked it, but that doesn't matter now since the campaign manager has agreed that the feedback wouldn't be an issue.

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It's only a matter of time before you become as respected as the most reputable managers in the forum, you're not too far behind.

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I'm really bored of Lauda and his dramas which includes using forum tools and rules like a weapon for kicking peoples. There is no doubt for "highly respected businesses" of Darkstar_ or Chipmixer. Dont try to use their respect like a bodyguard for yourselves personal targets. The main problem is your methods to using forum rules and trust system. You are not believing the fair trust system. And you're still trying to use it as a method for kick the peoples which you dislike.


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I'm really bored of Lauda and his dramas which includes using forum tools and rules like a weapon for kicking peoples. There is no doubt for "highly respected businesses" of Darkstar_ or Chipmixer. Dont try to use their respect like a bodyguard for yourselves personal targets. The main problem is your methods to using forum rules and trust system. You are not believing the fair trust system. And you're still trying to use it as a method for kick the peoples which you dislike.

The problem has already been resolved and it was a misunderstanding at most. You can avoid having another Lauda drama by not bumping this thread. The OP should lock it.
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A problem arose a couple of months ago where another Campaign Manager has me (directly or indirectly I'm uncertain) on their trust list which then caused some consternation in much the same fasion as the OP having a clear rating but the CM sees a slightly different trust rating. (Again, either directly or indirectly)

In either case as we've seen with the Chipmixer Campaign, it is ultimately up to the CM who is selected into any SigCamp and people (including the OP) have to accept and respect the CM's decision.

And on a personal note, I wouldn't trust anyone who tried to exert pressure on a CM to be accepted into a SigCamp or have others accepted into a Campaign.

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A fake vouch including trust farming is now part of valid trust system behaviour? There are many members in the 777Coin campaign and a couple of bounties that are involved in this, this, and this.
I remember a time where you were absolutely not allowed to give fake vouches, but that may just be me.



This is the most absurd excuse made to disqualify a member. Feedback left by a member who is not on the DT1 or DT2 list. It cannot be taken into consideration.
I'm really bored of Lauda and his dramas which includes using forum tools and rules like a weapon for kicking peoples. There is no doubt for "highly respected businesses" of Darkstar_ or Chipmixer. Dont try to use their respect like a bodyguard for yourselves personal targets. The main problem is your methods to using forum rules and trust system. You are not believing the fair trust system. And you're still trying to use it as a method for kick the peoples which you dislike.
Just exactly how many of you are in the same bounty? How many are former abusers from the campaign I ran? Roll Eyes

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A fake vouch including trust farming is now part of valid trust system behaviour? There are many members in the 777Coin campaign and a couple of bounties that are involved in this, this, and this.
I remember a time where you were absolutely not allowed to give fake vouches, but that may just be me.



This is the most absurd excuse made to disqualify a member. Feedback left by a member who is not on the DT1 or DT2 list. It cannot be taken into consideration.
I'm really bored of Lauda and his dramas which includes using forum tools and rules like a weapon for kicking peoples. There is no doubt for "highly respected businesses" of Darkstar_ or Chipmixer. Dont try to use their respect like a bodyguard for yourselves personal targets. The main problem is your methods to using forum rules and trust system. You are not believing the fair trust system. And you're still trying to use it as a method for kick the peoples which you dislike.
Just exactly how many of you are in the same bounty? How many are former abusers from the campaign I ran? Roll Eyes

I feel sorry for you to see how much no one likes you in the forum. We should assume that those who comment positively for you are also members of the "gang". Your gang!

There are few people who are brave enough to say that it was you who made the spread of racism and neopotism obviously in the forum. But with the education I received from both our culture and my family, I will not respond to you unfairly as you do. I don't even need to leave any feedback for you. You can continue to do your best in your dark and evil world. It is obvious that you will not gain anything other than hate in this way.

I think that there are still fair people in the forum who are happy to help each other. It does not concern me who is a person who is beneficial to the forum, what language he / she speaks or gender. Here, as people gathered on the axis of a Bitcoin, we try to do something good and useful. I recommend leaving the unnecessary conflict environment in the forum and dealing with something useful in this way. Because in this state, nobody cares about what you say! You must understand that you are in an environment where everyone ignores you.

I am happy to see the problem is resolved by @CryptopreneurBrainboss a good way.
And I recommend also that all bounty manager one thing. I think fair bounty managers should never add anyone to their trust list in order not to face such problems. Or they should check at least 2 times before making a decision.
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May 11, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
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I am happy to see the problem is resolved by @CryptopreneurBrainboss a good way.
And I recommend also that all bounty manager one thing. I think fair bounty managers should never add anyone to their trust list in order not to face such problems. Or they should check at least 2 times before making a decision.

Almost all campaign managers have their own trust list and I don't see any issue there. All they had to do is to check the trust page by adding ";dt" at the end of the URL to see if its a trusted feedback or not. But yeah they should check before making a decision and in your case, Brainboss didn't actually take any decision he just asked you to resolve the red tag. You could have simply PMed him with the details and could have resolved the issue as Lauda is clearly not in DT.
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May 11, 2020, 11:24:21 AM
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I am happy to see the problem is resolved by @CryptopreneurBrainboss a good way.
And I recommend also that all bounty manager one thing. I think fair bounty managers should never add anyone to their trust list in order not to face such problems. Or they should check at least 2 times before making a decision.


I'll advice you to lock this thread now to avoid unnecessary discussion that aren't relevant since the problem has been resolved or avoid tagging me since I get notified the moment I get tagged. Mind you, irrespective of me been a manager I'm also a regular forum member (an active one for that matter) and I have obligation to contribute to the trust system irrespective of it not been perfect. We'll get there though.

I don't have Lauda on my custom trust list although that doesn't mean I don't agree with all her feedback, she have quite a decent number of them that are very accurate, probably one of the users in my custom trust list trusted Lauda's feedback so automatically it reflected on mine, don't know the history of you guys disagreement since I'm not that interested in most of the drama that goes on here (hardly before you see me drop a view on any of them). Some misunderstanding was experience and it got resolved without anybody getting hurt, Lets move on.

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May 11, 2020, 11:48:30 AM
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I feel sorry for you to see how much no one likes you in the forum. We should assume that those who comment positively for you are also members of the "gang". Your gang!

There are few people who are brave enough to say that it was you who made the spread of racism and neopotism obviously in the forum. But with the education I received from both our culture and my family, I will not respond to you unfairly as you do. I don't even need to leave any feedback for you. You can continue to do your best in your dark and evil world. It is obvious that you will not gain anything other than hate in this way.
No problem, this created situation had an interesting side effect: Some birdie sent me some new information about another nest of you Turkish abusive monkeys. You are too dumb to hide your activities, which comes as a beneficial character trait for the remainder of the forum. Somebody is bound to make another grand reveal.

They are just pathetic greedy little liars. This goes back way before I have even used the word Turkish once in this forum. It goes back to when I kicked out all the shitposting scammers from Bitmixer, a big portion which were posting or used to post in the Turkish section at the time. Of course their section moderator EFS has not seen or reported a single abuse there. Roll Eyes
Full history simply explained. There is no bullshit racism, this is just a revenge play by envious baboons. Roll Eyes

I don't have Lauda on my custom trust list although that doesn't mean I don't agree with all her feedback, she have quite a decent number of them that are very accurate, probably one of the users in my custom trust list trusted Lauda's feedback so automatically it reflected on mine, don't know the history of you guys disagreement since I'm not that interested in most of the drama that goes on here (hardly before you see me drop a view on any of them). Some misunderstanding was experience and it got resolved without anybody getting hurt, Lets move on.
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May 11, 2020, 12:23:35 PM
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@Lauda left negative feedback on my profile.



Lauda is a idiot and she's feedback is nothing
if your stupid managed remove you for this reason you can forget this manager and his shitcampaign
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