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May 12, 2020, 09:33:41 AM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

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May 12, 2020, 10:41:18 AM
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It is probably hard for you because you are doing a lot of things. Just try to focus on one thing either purely investment or trading alone. Because if you are focusing on one thing at a time you can eventually increase your knowledge and surely you can master your strategy. And now, please ask yourself which actually you want to explore first or the thing you are preferred of, then you could see the difference.

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May 12, 2020, 11:40:29 AM
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OP, with Bitcoin? Easy! Buy the dip, and HODL.

I believe, without leverage, active altcoin trading would give you profits less than if you simply bought the Bitcoin dips and held.

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May 12, 2020, 12:42:14 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Trading in crypto at the moment is really getting harder for real in the market. For sure even the expert one was also facing difficulty in technical analysis in terms of implementation for them to earn crypto or bitcoin, But if you do really have an idea and skills in trading the difficulty could possibly minimal only I guess.
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May 12, 2020, 12:46:36 PM
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Two angle to your challenges and solution like an advise I want to give. Trading and investment are not same thing . So when you investment, like buying a coin. In this the growth is not decision by you, meaning you have no control of how it can grow.
On the other which is trading, this is dependent on you. If you are losing in your trading, then either you learn more to change your strategy or you stop. Maybe is not your calling  Shocked

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May 12, 2020, 01:50:40 PM
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When you learned trading just by the surface and not understanding the fundamentals it would surely lead to continuous loss until you decide to forfeit.
I think you should better try the basics if you haven't fully mastered the strategy and techniques in trading, i suggest reading some materials or watching Crypto traders to know what their methods and process when it comes to different market conditions.

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May 12, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
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Investment and trading probably give you two different profit.

For with investment once you buy a bitcoin or other altcoins the profit will depend on what will be the value of your coins by the time you decided to exchange it while with trading you may earn and increase your total asset if you win in this career. However, you might just need to learn strategies and basic knowledge for you to succeed in this field.

IMO, it is normal that along the way you may experience failure but that will be your best teacher and will let you know what to do next if a similar situation happens besides trading is a risk that you'll take in order for you to earn and learn how to deal on different challenges.

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May 12, 2020, 03:16:49 PM
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It's not difficult if you study first, try to understand the market situation that occurs, trading is not just buying and selling. Investment is not just putting a large fund in a project.

Needing the ability to analyze and find the right time to trade and invest, I suggest you always learn and the failure you get is a process that must be passed. But if you are tired, there is time to take a break to stay mentally healthy.
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is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
One of the proven solution to make profits by trading or long term holding is educating yourself before going to risk your capital. There are 1000s of youtube videos are available for that purposes. If you have no time for making use of them, then you can blindly buy and hold bitcoins for months to year. As per many experts, 2021 will be the repeation of 2017 and 2013. So, this must be the most right time to buy and hold.

Buy and hold will fulfill your investment needs. But, you cannot active trade bitcoins profitably if you do not have sufficient skills. I mean you may for go for investments and may skip trading. If you are serious about trading then go trading bitcoins for short term after having 90% of bitcoins for long term holding.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
You are not the only one OP that experience difficulty. Profits is not easy to earn on trading, there are lots of style on trading but the best one is just hold and sell when you already on green mode. Im not gonna advise you to do, different method from arbitrage trading, futures, and leverage these are really high risk type of trading, some even loss fortune due to incapability to foreseen market movement. But simply does not exempt from risking your fund right? If you wanna gain some profits then you must able to risk in order to gain. No balls people cannot gain any profits if their only concern is not to lose. You should always prefer for worse, cryptomarket is very volatile and it could give you a heart attack if you dont do it well.



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There is a better way to invest and profit but its going to hurt your patience particularly for the day traders. Its often said that trend is your friend so its just how its going to be when you chose your trade. Its hard to keep trading when you really dont know when the price is going to spike but you will always know when there will b a bullrun and that's a good time to trade.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

In situations as this, the first to find out the routine of your losses, do they folllw the same pattern? If yes, you need to revisit your trading strategies, if no, then you need to figure what you are doing wrongly.

Trading and investment are easy, if we learn from the mistakes we make
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Which pair you choosed to do trade. After select a good exchange, next steps is good pairs. You should involve with several pairs for your best experience. Without huge bull market one pair coin has the highest risk. Use some free USD that's USD offer by some exchange. Hope this free USD will improve your trade skills.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Yeah when market carry lots of useless projects than proper ones then you might see lot of trouble in investment sector. Every week we saw many projects are coming in crypto industry but may be 5% are legit or standards. So it's not surprised that if you are in trouble with your investment now days.

Same for trading sector cause when market continuously going with bear side people get loss. But in trading i guess you can do much better than investing to achieved more experience. Every sector have two side, bad one and good one. And i believe always good things happens after the bad one. So stay tight and be patience for your final result.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

I think this is the current predicament of virtually everyone in the market currently. Whatever ever investment option you choose, the profit yield margin is getting thinner and thinner with each day.  I just hope we will see more of massive green candles soon

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

I think this is the current predicament of virtually everyone in the market currently. Whatever ever investment option you choose, the profit yield margin is getting thinner and thinner with each day.  I just hope we will see more of massive green candles soon
Profit making as of these days is now getting harder so always make the best of it. Try to evaluate yourself on which option you want to focus so you will have more time in studying those strategies and be skilled on it. Do not be confuse on those two things. Learn by them one at a time so you can stop from making continuous losses.

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May 13, 2020, 05:33:09 AM
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While others are gaining thru trading and you are at loss all the time, then reflect and spot which field do you tend to do wrong. Maybe you are lacking of something or misinterpreting the way technical analysis should properly read.

You can do some journal or a trading plan so you may know what should you add in your trading. There are more tools that you may need to learn since trading is not an easy like many think it is.
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That is the reason why we should able to adapt market changes, there is no forever donwtrend and there is also no forever uptrend. Prices moves in a wave pattern, for those traders who have having hard time to make profit while bear market is occurring, it is better if you will wait or to practice more downtrend strategies.

Trading is like a battle or a war where if you go unprepared, you will be slaughtered. It is good if we are aware on our inner strength that we can use to become profitable even if the bearish market is occurring.
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May 13, 2020, 06:32:54 AM
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When you learned trading just by the surface and not understanding the fundamentals it would surely lead to continuous loss until you decide to forfeit.

Every losses are important because it will serve as a lesson for you, so every time you lose in trading, you should understand and comprehend the reason of your losses. You should treat every mistakes as a lesson for you to become better and grow more in trading. Never give up but make yourself stronger and recovered from this losses that you've encountered.

Fundamentals are necessary most especially if you try to practice them in a trading, sometimes you need an actual trading for you to know what circumstances you should apply those strategies. Practice make things perfect and you should enhanced the use of fundamentals in trading so that you will become more effective in it.

I think you should better try the basics if you haven't fully mastered the strategy and techniques in trading, i suggest reading some materials or watching Crypto traders to know what their methods and process when it comes to different market conditions.

You can master it once you're already applying it in an actual trading transactions because in that circumstances, you will know the suitable strategy depending on the situation in the market. Like what I've said, advice from professional trader or people who are an effective trader is enough for you to realize the things in the market.

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Maybe the reason that your investments and trades are not bearing fruit is that you lack patience, especially in the investment route, having a quick buck there does not come easy, there will be compound interests that will only get bigger as time goes by, when you trade patience helps you make good decisions like selling out the investment when it dips too far. The other reason might be that you are making investing and trading your job which at first will never be fruitful, have a job that sustains the basic needs then set aside the money that you use for trading and investment.

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May 13, 2020, 06:48:28 AM
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Hm. I can say with confidence that I trade without losses. I am engaged in the creation of bots for algorithmic trading (Arbitrage, for example). I also advise you to join the arbitrage trade, because the income there is 9-15% per month (And usually you can get so much only in Ponzi).


And if it becomes difficult to trade, you should take the S&P 500 index and sleep peacefully Smiley

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Trading is always challenging stuff so it can't be easy we have to be dedicated to expect profit with it and the other side investment is not beyond from risks, a wrong decision can be cause of loss for investment and it's really hard to making a balanced combination for both so It may be helpful for you to give much priority between one of them with full dedication.
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I agree with that.
The situation in the world is changing every day. In the near future everything will change even more globally. Therefore, trading becomes risky.

The same thing happens with investing. What you invested in for many years may stop working. There are no guarantees. Therefore, I personally invest not only in cryptocurrency, but also in real estate with large lands.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
There is not really a single person you can gain information and suddenly become better at trading. This is a more of a situation based thing, trading changes depending on the situation and sometimes there are a dozen different people for dozen different people who will be right for that.

Some people are great when bitcoin does this and altcoins do that, and the other will be for bitcoin doing this and altcoin doing that, there is always a difference between each situation market is in and not everyone can be good at all of those. So get as much information from as many people as you can and combine them together and see which one works for which situation and use that for the future ones. This takes a lot of time and a lot of money to test and figure out and but in the end you will be fine.

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May 13, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
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input all your criticisms and suggestions here will certainly make me even more motivated, and I will take from the positive side for me so that I can continue to study and work hard again to return to the trade and investment that I will do, and hopefully in the future me and all of you here will be able to rise again to continue to strive for mutual success.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

If you are a daily trader it is very hard to get profit in trading in general . I would recommend you to buy and hold that value for a long time like few years and you are safer than trading daily .

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I agree with that.
The situation in the world is changing every day. In the near future everything will change even more globally. Therefore, trading becomes risky.

The same thing happens with investing. What you invested in for many years may stop working. There are no guarantees. Therefore, I personally invest not only in cryptocurrency, but also in real estate with large lands.
Investment is always risky when you enter this market, but if possible, you should spend time researching before investing because currently any market has the same risk. I think only invest in some of the top 50 coins to reduce risk because they are all good coins and are trusted by everyone. However, if the price of Bitcoin does not increase, you will not be able to make a profit from any coin.

 
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May 13, 2020, 12:06:02 PM
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 Crypto trading is always very risky and difficult. Before Invest your money in crypto, you should know about your risk and your skill too. Without knowledge, you can not earn by invest and trade. On the other hand trade and investment becomes also harder. To make a profit by trade and invest, you need more patience and trading skill.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Perhaps, you buy a wrong coin so that it can not give you the profit. If you can select the right coin, I think you will not feel hard to make a profit like other people. To find the right coin is not easy because you need to analyze so many coins at the market but you can buy bitcoin as your investment and don't touch the altcoin side because that will make you confuse. There are so many altcoins out there, and that will need you more time to find the coin. So if you only buy bitcoin, I guess your chance to make a profit will be bigger than the altcoin.

The altcoin can give a big profit, especially if the bull run is coming, but unfortunately, we don't know when the bull run will come. And that makes us wait for a long time to see the bull run.
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May 13, 2020, 03:40:39 PM
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We need to be more vigilant about trade investments in order that we will update something later when trade investment becomes tough you've got to undertake to regulate the market all the time as they cause more damage. the rationale for the tightening of trade investment is to influence the market. Therefore, before investing during this difficult time you would like to practice the market well and trade using different strategies in order that they are doing not have an excessive amount of influence However, thanks to the market within the market has begun to scale back its impact.

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Crypto trading is always very risky and difficult. Before Invest your money in crypto, you should know about your risk and your skill too. Without knowledge, you can not earn by invest and trade. On the other hand trade and investment becomes also harder. To make a profit by trade and invest, you need more patience and trading skill.
Patience helps you to realize every mistakes as long as you have the interest of learning the proper ways of trading you still have a good chance in succeeding from this industry. There's no easy way to get what you are aiming, it's just needed for you to balance everything and analyze the way you trade. Most of the time adjustments helps you to find the right decision to make.

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May 13, 2020, 06:35:41 PM
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It is probably hard for you because you are doing a lot of things. Just try to focus on one thing either purely investment or trading alone. Because if you are focusing on one thing at a time you can eventually increase your knowledge and surely you can master your strategy. And now, please ask yourself which actually you want to explore first or the thing you are preferred of, then you could see the difference.

I do not agree with you. It is not that simple. This week, Bitcoin lost almost $ 1000 and seemed to be growing. On May 7, experts expected the price to rise to $ 12k.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
No one can help you out but only yourself.Its not that trade and investment becomes more harder each day but because we cant really just expect to have that profit on constant or daily basis.
There would be some losing days and this thing is inevitable..

If you do get continuous lose in trading then better to analyze it on where it did go wrong.Realize on what are the mistakes that you had done on that particular trade so that in next trade
you wouldnt commit the same mistake and same loss but you should always anticipate that things could happen always randomly even no matter how good your
analysis is, you are still bound to lose but with due experience and skills we can lessen up that kind of margin.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Investment and trading was never easy as well, one who knows the conditions better are having high chance of making profits but if you are doing trades and investment without prior knowledge then probably you will lose.Before trading or investing you have to decide why you are investing and when to take profits from your investments.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Even experts lose. Trading is not perfect. There will be a time that you will lose but it doesn't mean you will always lose.

Your ways and strategy are effective. It's just that you can't do it properly and on time.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
The current market situation is good to trade, I believe there are a lot of trader who got some profit of it. If you choose bitcoin as a trading place you may get profit as well because at this time bitcoin has risen to $9300 from $8700.

The basic knowlegde of trading is really simple buy low and sell high. That is mean when the bitcoin price is decreasing you have to buy (understood a strategy to find an entry point, you can choose trend line strategy to do it) and sell when its price is increasing.

Learn more how to trade well, you can see on some youtube channel.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

I guess you just started experiencing your fair share of bear market not too long. That's the effects of when market is being affected by huge downtrends for so long and i bet people will suggest you should buy low and sell high, i guess that phrase is already a cliche as no one knows when it is ever low or high in this market. Things is, the entire market is not currently favorable, although we've seeing a positive movements for weeks nows due to the hype of halving but just stick to your rules, I'm sure profit will drop when the markets gets better

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

I guess you just start experiencing your fair share of bear market not too long. That's the effects of when market is being affected by hude downtrends for so long
Cryptocurrency is so volatile that's why crypto traders love it. It's natural that you will get experience fo a bear season, Some take advantage of the bear season by pilling up their asset investment and they just wait for their asset to accumulate profit over time. Downtrends are expected after a huge uptrend that what happened in early 2018 after bitcoin gets its all-time high. It is the matter of strategy will you use on how to get out of the situation you are having, Loss will be lost and the only thing you can do is to make a move or wait for your asset to lose value.

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Many factors that make you when trading and investment suffer continuous losses. If I may guess, possibility are you are lacking
be patient. Because the key to success in trading and investment is patience. Maybe you sell coins too fast, don't wait until the sell
target is reached. Or you can also buy coins too fast, so buying coins too expensive. If the matter not repaired, you will be hard to
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
I used to be like you in the first few months when I started learning trading and studying TA. when the knowledge was good and I was ready to go to battle and unfortunately I was also dumped by the market for several trading weeks. After many losses and reflections, I think we should treat trading as simple and not to put it as a problem. Only deal with the indicators that you feel are best using it.
Currently I have traded profit and I traded very little, every month I only traded about 5-10 orders and 8 orders won and 2 orders lost. It's important for me to realize that you have to choose the direction of the trade that you understand best and follow the rules the most. Meanwhile, you will surely get the results you want. Currently I only use the Doji and MACD methods. When the signal comes, I'll open the order and don't think much.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Maybe you need to learn more about choosing the coin and analyzing the coin, so you don't feel difficult to obtain profits from the investment. You may choose bitcoin for your investment, and don't buy the altcoin if you doubt because, with bitcoin for your main investment, you will make a profit in the future. But whether it is an investment in bitcoin or altcoin, you need to be careful to select the buy entry point.

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On my perspective I think trading and investment will not be hard if you have enough knowledge and skills about those that information it is easier to make decisions without hassle and hesitation. In investment you do not need to have a lot of knowledge and ideas thee only thing you must need is to make an investment when the market price of the coins is low or we called as the dip and hodl this coin to make more market income or profit.

In terms for having trading this much requires too much knowledge and skills if you are a beginner better to set capital for making an investment for just training on your platform I think ten dollars is enough this is only my opinion next learn how to make good trading and watch some videos, and other online learnings. Then to understand all of that knowledge it is better if you make the experience what trading really is so you know what is the experience of the risk of making trades.

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May 14, 2020, 04:11:39 PM
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Even if there are such people here, they are unlikely to share with you their successful strategy. Why do they need it?
Any successful strategy is based on a lot of experience, through many mistakes and failures. Such knowledge is sold at best, and is rarely shared with the general public.
In my opinion, it has not become more complicated, but otherwise. Those who did not have time to adapt will experience tremendous difficulties.

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May 14, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
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Even if there are such people here, they are unlikely to share with you their successful strategy. Why do they need it?
Any successful strategy is based on a lot of experience, through many mistakes and failures. Such knowledge is sold at best, and is rarely shared with the general public.
In my opinion, it has not become more complicated, but otherwise. Those who did not have time to adapt will experience tremendous difficulties.


That is all very true. There is no.successful trader without a lot of experience, knowledge and lessons learned. And it's also important that trading and investing are not for everyone, it requires certain skills.
It may look like now it's more difficult and demanding to be a trader than 5 years ago but on the other hand back then it wasn't so many available information, tools and shared experiences like there is today.

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May 14, 2020, 04:55:40 PM
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Even if there are such people here, they are unlikely to share with you their successful strategy. Why do they need it?
Any successful strategy is based on a lot of experience, through many mistakes and failures. Such knowledge is sold at best, and is rarely shared with the general public.
In my opinion, it has not become more complicated, but otherwise. Those who did not have time to adapt will experience tremendous difficulties.

All of your words are right and it's true that none can make profit if they just depend on others instructions. There are so many trader who share their opinions and many of us just follow their call. But we need to understand what the trader want to share with us than need to do our own research. BTW, we can also be a good trader and won't make the same mistakes again and again. Personally, i also make so many mistakes at the beginning and i don't do the same things again because of my previous experience. Cheesy

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I think you are too fast in making decisions when trading, it will have an effect when you buy and sell not in the right time because if you can do it in the right time, then at least you will still get profit even though it is a low profit. So in this problem I think you should be more patient to get the right moment because in trading we don't need to pursue to get quick profits because it will only make a lot of mistakes and losses for yourself.

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May 14, 2020, 08:41:40 PM
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On contrary it is actually getting easier and easier if you have been here long enough. I have been here for a long time and I know what bitcoin does and when it does it and how it does it, I do make some profits from it as well, the thing is it is not really quick so even if you double your money it takes 10 months to double it so it is not really making me rich that much, plus I need the money to survive and spend on stuff like groceries and bills and so forth which means I can't double every year back to back as well.

You want to know how? Simply just put buy orders at lower numbers (you can decide what this is, anything from 3k to 7k) and just wait for it to go under, after it reaches there you automatically buy since you had a buy order. After that put a sell order (anywhere between 10k to 14k your decision) and you will automatically sell it. Look at history, this happened plenty of times as well.

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May 14, 2020, 09:27:31 PM
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If you can take your time to study the movement of a particular coin trading on your favourite or chosen exchange, you will be able to know when to buy and when to sell. Irrespective of what the general market trend might be, there are certain exchanges that make coins tho fluctuate in prices.
I do this on one of my best exchanges, which I may not mention and that is where I get, my profit most. Also, try to give your trading utmost focus, if that is what you have resolved on doing.
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May 14, 2020, 11:07:48 PM
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It’s not getting harder, it’s more about people getting greedier. If we are sensible and approach things wisely, it will help us gain. But of course, it is also about the skill levels and this is where I find it very good through CryptosFundTrading, as its one place where we can invest and be sure of generating sufficient returns. The transparency, security and team of theirs is what makes it special. So see, I don’t think investment is hard but just require right route.
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It’s strange. I think it depends more on the person. You can take a look at my diary, I started trading only 2 months ago (Obviously, not pros) and show profit at a distance.

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May 15, 2020, 05:48:54 AM
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You might be lacking of plan and strategy thats why instead of taking profit you're losing your money.

Try to figure out the problem of your consistent loss, its easy to spot if you already gain and sell immediately, perhaps you're aiming for big gains.

If you already know the nature of investing and trading then it wont be hard to understand whats happening just have patience and dont be greedy.

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May 15, 2020, 05:54:19 AM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do,
I cannot say for you but depending on whatever price you have acquired the assets, if you sell them at higher price you make profit. It is as simple as that. Now if you are holding them at lower prices than what you bought you will have to wait for a longer period, keep patience till your find a price higher than buying price or just equal to buying price.

Now to prevent such things in future you should observe charts before buying for the right point of entry and buy at that, have an exit strategy price as well.

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& is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
I dont believe that. That someone might be trying to lure your into something shady and scam you. If they talk about margin trading make sure you learn about it first before you jump in and sign up on their referral link. Remember that people are good at making money from affiliates because they know whom to target, dont give away free money to them.

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May 15, 2020, 08:32:48 AM
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OP, with Bitcoin? Easy! Buy the dip, and HODL.

I believe, without leverage, active altcoin trading would give you profits less than if you simply bought the Bitcoin dips and held.

That's a good suggestion for someone who is struggling and trying hard to continue trading alts even with series of losses.
The only problem with buying the dips, is the obsession of finding the bottom that would usually end up missing the bottom lol.  Grin
Specially now that Bitcoin was very volatile than what we have considered as normal few months ago.
If somebody bought the dip in March, then I considered them very lucky.

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Investing in cryptocurrency has always been considered very risky. Trading is also risky. It is very important to choose the right purchase price, while not overestimating your expectations to choose the sale price. Otherwise, your trades will only bring you a loss.

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Talking about the current scenario going around the world is very bad due to a virus called COVID-19, this has lead businesses to lock and people have quarantine themself, hence the market has fallen down, crises are shaping all around.
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I would agree with you that trading and investment options are now getting harder and harder, primarily due to the large economic unrest.

The fact that trading and investments have Beta values >1 means that market volatility greatly impact how these services are undertaken. It's the nature of how things are at the moment, which make it difficult to understand in a logical sense what's going on and where you should spread your risks.





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It's not difficult if you study first, try to understand the market situation that occurs, trading is not just buying and selling. Investment is not just putting a large fund in a project.

Everything can be learned and acquired once you understand the purpose and benefits of trading on your assets. It is true that there is something more about trading because it can improve your good decision and critical thinking skills that you can use to manage and fight the volatility of a certain coins in the market.

Investment is much safer than trading, you need to take it step by step when you choose investment over trading. Probably, there are times that trading will give you much higher profits than investment but keep in mind that investment is for a long term source of profit.

Needing the ability to analyze and find the right time to trade and invest, I suggest you always learn and the failure you get is a process that must be passed. But if you are tired, there is time to take a break to stay mentally healthy.

Patience and good timing is always the key in order to win in any circumstances no matter if that's a trade or investment. Proper timing will give you good profits and minimal losses once you know when to execute the strategies that you prepared during transactions.
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May 15, 2020, 06:25:21 PM
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Considering today's market conditions, it has been very difficult to make money now. Not only crypto money markets, but all the world markets are going through bad times due to Covid-19. But here, by showing all the crime for the market, we only deceive ourselves because the user also needs to be knowledgeable and take action accordingly. If you need to comment and advise for yourself, I think that you do not have enough knowledge and experience if you are harming every transaction. For this reason, you should improve yourself and learn to interpret the current market situation, prices and news. If you have enough knowledge and experience, you can be sure that you will lose less money and start making money from most of your transactions.
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May 15, 2020, 06:27:23 PM
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It is probably about having a lot more people involved which means there is probably not that much more profit to make but there is more people who are sharing those profits. Honestly not everyone is a bad trader, sure there are some but the amount of people who are getting into trading learns from the better traders, we didn't had that chance we learned it by losing money and testing stuff, but now the new traders hear the bad ideas from us and we warn them so they are starting with more knowledge.

This is why I think it is getting harder because there is a lot of new people who learn from the old ones and we have to share our trading strategies with them and we are doing the same thing while the profit is same but our shares get smaller and smaller.

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May 15, 2020, 06:33:17 PM
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If we are talking about investments in new projects, then the situation is really very difficult, since it is very difficult to identify a really promising project for investment. But if you choose cryptocurrency from the coinmarketcap rating, then it seems to me that there will be no difficulties with this. the fact is that in the media that specialize in the IT sphere, you can always find positive news regarding existing projects and therefore it is possible to invest profitably in cryptocurrencies, which are in a high rating. But if we talk about trade, then with the high volatility of cryptocurrency prices, it’s better to learn how to do day trading, even though it will take a lot of time. In my opinion, day trading gives quick results and with better income.
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May 15, 2020, 08:12:03 PM
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If we are talking about investments in new projects, then the situation is really very difficult, since it is very difficult to identify a really promising project for investment. But if you choose cryptocurrency from the coinmarketcap rating, then it seems to me that there will be no difficulties with this. the fact is that in the media that specialize in the IT sphere, you can always find positive news regarding existing projects and therefore it is possible to invest profitably in cryptocurrencies, which are in a high rating. But if we talk about trade, then with the high volatility of cryptocurrency prices, it’s better to learn how to do day trading, even though it will take a lot of time. In my opinion, day trading gives quick results and with better income.
Even IEO nowadays arent already appealing that anymore and i do barely see project that do gain much attraction as of these days.I my opinion which we dont really need anymore projects yet theyve been using the same platform and the ideas made was already on repetition thats why it doesnt really get that much attention.

It would be more worth if we do just invest directly on established coins either btc or in some alts in the market which i would say that be more worth than risking in new projects but well its our choice since its our money after all.

Active trade would be preferable because we do know that it will really give out that chance to make money in a short span of time depending on how you do trade of but always remember that there would be always an accompanied risk on it.

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May 15, 2020, 08:27:37 PM
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If investment and trade is difficult for you as you have rightly said is a sad one because, the investment and trade in Bitcoin seem the most simple system around the world. Whenever you are ready to trade, you should know that: always buy during the dip to.hold.against the bullish period. As far as I know, this technique worked for me when I was still a newbie into the world of cryptocurrency. For the investment side, holding for long-term is the solution or staking coins for me is the beat way to make a good investment with bitcoin or with other cryptocurrencies.

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May 15, 2020, 08:42:49 PM
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The crypto market had not performed well from last 2 years but recovery in bitcoin seems impressive and as big events like btc halving (occured few days ago) and eth 2.0 are coming soon i expect the market to be bullish in upcoming months, the hype and fomo will be back and all investors and hodlers will be back in profit and that too big profit. Just keep your hopes high and for sure good time will come.

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May 15, 2020, 10:32:09 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Try to identify why you are not making profits. Look for mistakes you are making. Try to learn from those mistakes. Try to avoid them in the future. You will eventually start making profit. Don't go looking for people that can help you to make profit. They will either scam you or will fill your mind with absurd ideas.
Just keep on trying. Use small capital so that you don't make huge loss.

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May 16, 2020, 05:25:59 AM
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The crypto market had not performed well from last 2 years but recovery in bitcoin seems impressive and as big events like btc halving (occured few days ago) and eth 2.0 are coming soon i expect the market to be bullish in upcoming months, the hype and fomo will be back and all investors and hodlers will be back in profit and that too big profit. Just keep your hopes high and for sure good time will come.
for now, it only happens to bitcoin, but for other altcoins, it seems like it hasn't had a good development yet. For the last 2 years, investing in crypto has become very difficult, especially for new projects. so many projects that become a scam, or even do not have a price. as far as I can see, to find it safe, investing when the price of bitcoin is below $ 6k will be quite profitable. however, for now, it needs time to see the price of bitcoin drop below that price.

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May 16, 2020, 10:45:12 AM
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The crypto market had not performed well from last 2 years but recovery in bitcoin seems impressive and as big events like btc halving (occured few days ago) and eth 2.0 are coming soon i expect the market to be bullish in upcoming months, the hype and fomo will be back and all investors and hodlers will be back in profit and that too big profit. Just keep your hopes high and for sure good time will come.
for now, it only happens to bitcoin, but for other altcoins, it seems like it hasn't had a good development yet. For the last 2 years, investing in crypto has become very difficult, especially for new projects. so many projects that become a scam, or even do not have a price. as far as I can see, to find it safe, investing when the price of bitcoin is below $ 6k will be quite profitable. however, for now, it needs time to see the price of bitcoin drop below that price.
This is damn true, I've seen many projects before that got a successful crowd sale and doing fine in their first year but ended up abandoning the project they are holding. It's, even more, harder to find a good investment today because of the crowd sale scams that are going around throughout the crypto community. Big investors lose their trust in crypto project development that's why some good projects don't get a chance to get their crowd sale fulfilled.

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May 16, 2020, 03:44:34 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

I think trade and investment was always hard and harder. Now question is how well you choosing coins or project for investment though in this time its very difficult to track right project or coin for investment. I know many men who gain profit when BTC was $4k and at the same time many men now have who can not gain profit.

So i think you have to me more careful about choosing tokens and projects. Best of luck.
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May 16, 2020, 08:22:19 PM
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Maybe the reason that your investments and trades are not bearing fruit is that you lack patience, especially in the investment route, having a quick buck there does not come easy, there will be compound interests that will only get bigger as time goes by, when you trade patience helps you make good decisions like selling out the investment when it dips too far. The other reason might be that you are making investing and trading your job which at first will never be fruitful, have a job that sustains the basic needs then set aside the money that you use for trading and investment.
I agree into this sentiment which i do base up on my own experience which majority definitely experience this scenario where the real test would really be
your patience towards you investment.Its true that not all hopes and expectations do happen in a fast way nor you do expect that you would see results
as you do like.It doesnt really work that way thats why we should really be patient and do our best on what we are doing, dealing with this market is
risky since its very volatile and unpredictable thats why it do somewhat mixed up with gamble.

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May 18, 2020, 01:03:32 PM
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The crypto market had not performed well from last 2 years but recovery in bitcoin seems impressive and as big events like btc halving (occured few days ago) and eth 2.0 are coming soon i expect the market to be bullish in upcoming months, the hype and fomo will be back and all investors and hodlers will be back in profit and that too big profit. Just keep your hopes high and for sure good time will come.
for now, it only happens to bitcoin, but for other altcoins, it seems like it hasn't had a good development yet. For the last 2 years, investing in crypto has become very difficult, especially for new projects. so many projects that become a scam, or even do not have a price. as far as I can see, to find it safe, investing when the price of bitcoin is below $ 6k will be quite profitable. however, for now, it needs time to see the price of bitcoin drop below that price.
The market often has major adjustments, and $6000 per year appear. Based on what is happening, the crypto market is not ready for a new price increase, and it is likely that there will be a new adjustment soon because the current Bitcoin price has reached $10,000. Of course, this is just my prediction, and everything depends on the coming situation of this market.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
of course if you trade must have knowledge to trade, if you do not have knowledge then you experience continuous losses,
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

You have to understand that trading and investment are different things. If you want to get good results, you have to focus more on one and if you focus on two at the same time, you will not get good results from either. See first what you find more interesting is trading or investing. If you like trading then improve your trading skills, try to read more about trading. And if you want to invest, you have to do a lot of research, because research give you way to read about project deeply. If you invest well after research, there is a possibility of profit.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

You have to understand that trading and investment are different things. If you want to get good results, you have to focus more on one and if you focus on two at the same time, you will not get good results from either. See first what you find more interesting is trading or investing. If you like trading then improve your trading skills, try to read more about trading. And if you want to invest, you have to do a lot of research, because research give you way to read about project deeply. If you invest well after research, there is a possibility of profit.
I guess he knows the difference between trading and investment, it is just that he is taking the approach inversely with the market situation right now, I mean his strategy does not fit in any of the market levels right now. What I can recommend is to think twice on your decision, this will help you to scrutinize the detail of your action coz even the small detail matters here in the market. As for the market behavior right now, it is better to hold more than to trade coz the market is very volatile especially with bitcoin, better to hold it.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

You have to understand that trading and investment are different things. If you want to get good results, you have to focus more on one and if you focus on two at the same time, you will not get good results from either. See first what you find more interesting is trading or investing. If you like trading then improve your trading skills, try to read more about trading. And if you want to invest, you have to do a lot of research, because research give you way to read about project deeply. If you invest well after research, there is a possibility of profit.
Yup, he/she's right, you have to focus on something that you want to do since trading and investment are totally different. Investment is for longer term while trading is for the shorter terms. If you do like to trade then do some research first that will help you to understand what are the basics of trading in order for you to gain a profit in such a small amount of time. There are free information all over the internet so use them accordingly.

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There is a way that I discovered that you can earn more and lose less, it is trading in the medium and long term, the reason is simple, when trading in this way it is faster to react to the market, when you do "Scalping" there is no way to react if the market goes against. Regarding the Investment, you only have to wait the time that is necessary to obtain benefits, if it is done that way, yes, but if the investment is withdrawn, nothing is done.

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This is damn true, I've seen many projects before that got a successful crowd sale and doing fine in their first year but ended up abandoning the project they are holding. It's, even more, harder to find a good investment today because of the crowd sale scams that are going around throughout the crypto community. Big investors lose their trust in crypto project development that's why some good projects don't get a chance to get their crowd sale fulfilled.


that's what makes investing so difficult, friend. however, many projects do the same pattern, after success, and list to several markets, they leave their project, and the worst is, because of its success, many try to follow the path they take, so many successful but disappointing projects. even for those who do research, sometimes they also get caught up in such investments.

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Have a budget for an investment, then do DCA, buy the dip, sell on profit. With enough amount of money, you can always get what you want. That's for my experience so far and it works great, though I didn't have good trades initially, I tend to make up by buying more every dip and it works very well.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
I had the same situation you had in the first few days of trading, but then when there were too many losing orders, I decided to stop and think a lot about my trading plan. I suddenly realized I was too hasty and immature to enter and hold orders. I used smaller capital to test my new thoughts and now I am quite successful in controlling psychology and making money on day trading. If you don't feel confident enough now, use small capital to test your thoughts. We need to be more patient about learning.


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If you don't feel confident enough now, use small capital to test your thoughts. We need to be more patient about learning.
Practice makes perfect in most places of skilled work but not always in trading; it can increase your chances of making profits but there is nothing called perfect in risk vs reward schemes.

that's what makes investing so difficult, friend. however, many projects do the same pattern, after success, and list to several markets, they leave their project, and the worst is, because of its success, many try to follow the path they take, so many successful but disappointing projects. even for those who do research, sometimes they also get caught up in such investments.
Well those projects are always doomed from the beginning. Those who are taking part in their offering are taking a huge risk in the first place and they often dont know the risks properly and only came in due to FOMO from another user. Thats who Coin offerings became so hyped and people lost money in them.

In reality we only need to trade on bitcoin, any altcoin becomes a liability of loss in the long term as we have seen from the charts and general development on any so called project.

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This is damn true, I've seen many projects before that got a successful crowd sale and doing fine in their first year but ended up abandoning the project they are holding. It's, even more, harder to find a good investment today because of the crowd sale scams that are going around throughout the crypto community. Big investors lose their trust in crypto project development that's why some good projects don't get a chance to get their crowd sale fulfilled.


that's what makes investing so difficult, friend. however, many projects do the same pattern, after success, and list to several markets, they leave their project, and the worst is, because of its success, many try to follow the path they take, so many successful but disappointing projects. even for those who do research, sometimes they also get caught up in such investments.
Yeah, agree! However, it is the risk that we have to accept when we join the market. There's nothing easy these days. Making money is hard and you have to learn to make it somewhat easier. In this cryptocurrency market, besides having knowledge, skills, techniques, you need to have some lucks as well. I have to admit that doing research is the best way to reduce the risk, however, sometime it just doesn't completely helpful. By the time we invest, doing research is no more responsible for the risk that we face!

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Are you using the same strategies just like before?
For me, I’m still making profit especially when the price of bitcoin almost hit a $10k and goes dump a little after that. You have to be more strategic, it make not be as easy as possible but we can still earn money. Buy low and sell high is still good, just have enough patience in the market and don’t rush to your big profit.
Right! I do it this way also. In the difficult time like this when there's not a lot of big changes occur in the market, we have to lower our profit target per transaction. Don't set the target too high or you gonna face the risk to loose not only the profit but also your capital. The golden rule of buying low and selling high is still the same. The only thing different is how high should we sell!

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Maybe you can take a break and re-assess your trading strategies. It might be addictive sometime if you are nothing gaining and you are still trading. there are trading demo you can play along with so that you learn more. This is one of them https://demo.hitbtc.com/. Also you need to be focused do not think you can do multi-task jobs with trading because it require devotion of your time and commitment. Finally do not set a bogus profit for yourself. It is better to have little profit rather than loss or nothing 
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If it was that easy we would all be living in big villas and castles. Trade and investment is a business that is literally making your life a lot easier if you are doing it right while also keeping you incredibly busy. If you know what you are doing and you are great at it, you could turn thousands into millions in few years, that means you will never have to work again.

There is around 7 billion people in the world who has to find a way to live, some are elderly and have retirement plans, some are kids so their parents take care of them, some of them are spouses that do not work, but there is probably over 3-4 billion people who work. That means if you are a great trader, you will not have to work at all like those 3-4 billion people, think of how rare a thing we are talking about.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Losing money into your investment is inevitable but somewhat can really be lessen or reduced depending into your own strategy and knowledge towards it. Not all days would be fruitful or do give out profits but if you are
already experiencing losing situation on severe manner then somethings wrong into your own handling of your investment + market becomes worst or just like that. They key here is that you dont easily give up and
find out solutions for you to be able to withstand on such crisis or problem of yours.If not then expect for more losses because you have already in mind with that kind of pressure and being too impatient.
Making money is just the same but not totally on high intense wayback in 2017.

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June 04, 2020, 08:46:04 PM
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IMHO, trading and investing remains the same only our patience level got suppressed year after year.Basically we all want the price to become bullish all the time and more likely we are expecting the profits like year 2017 but it happens rarely but you can still make profits from your trading activities.Just look at the daily volatility range of bitcoin which is still showing good range and more stable in the resistance so its good time for traders to make money.
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If Bitcoin were a stable currency it would be confined to one place like Fiat and it would be easier to make a profit  We have to wait a long time for the Bitcoin crypto market to increase in price depending on investment and demand. But if the prices of cryptocurrency currencies go down then trade investment will be difficult Many will leave the crypto market for fear of losing.

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June 06, 2020, 07:50:09 AM
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It is still the same as it was whats making it hard are the scam and exchange being hack almost every time. because of bitcoin volatile nature, it is hard to predict so if your not a seasoned crypto trader I suggest you buy and hold or look for another altcoin to trade such as ETH and EOS.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
You've got this mate...
I understand you want to improve and become beneficial to the market but don't get so explosive to think that trading will work smoothly and profitable all the time because it is not. Trading and investment will still work fine but the sad story is that people want to get instant returns, not even to wait for a few months to take it all and that it makes different and harder to bring those things right. Believe me, there is no magic in crypto that everything will work according to what you want.

A lot of things you have needed
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I do not agree trading and investment are getting harder and harder., because you do not have the capital or knowledge so say so.
In my opinion it is not too difficult to invest in crypto, we only need to buy coins at low prices and hold up to the target sale reached.
Then for trading we must be smart at reading the market and can also apply risk management. If the matter can be done well, trading
or investment is easy to do. It can even be used as full time jobs.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time. Well i kinda attributed it to the whole market downtrends we are currently facing, the bears is at large and trading is much profitable during bear conditions. Nonetheless, there are still some traders making it quite well but it's isn't comparable to when there is a bull market

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Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time.
I am seeing people call the 6k mark as "difficult times" and now 9k mark as difficult. So which mark is "easy" for you? If you keep thinking like that no price will seem fit for your buying or selling and you will waste time thinking. Those who bought at low can sell at this time if they need money at hand. Price is not going down below 9k for 2weeks now.

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Well i kinda attributed it to the whole market downtrends we are currently facing, the bears is at large and trading is much profitable during bear conditions. Nonetheless, there are still some traders making it quite well but it's isn't comparable to when there is a bull market
The market is bullish now for reasons unknown to me. It would seem that the crisis wave should have continued but people are probably seeing it as an opportunity to buy more bitcoin and raising the price.

Thus it is a good time to sell if you wish to. Buy if the price drops to 8k or lower.

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At the moment the market is lateral, many affirm that it will rise due to the effect of FIAT money, due to the effect of Bitcoin's Halving, for trading right now it is best to know how to read the volume, that way you will have better criteria to when making decisions.

For the investment, it is best to do it and forget about it until a good time, time when you can take benefits. The difference between Trading and Investment is that the Investment needs to wait for a long time, and trading you must be aware of each movement of the market as you have chosen the timing, if you always trade at very low times, the probability of losing increases, because it doesn't give you time to react to volatility changes, which are usually abrupt.

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I do not agree trading and investment are getting harder and harder., because you do not have the capital or knowledge so say so.
In my opinion it is not too difficult to invest in crypto, we only need to buy coins at low prices and hold up to the target sale reached.
It's not always the same for every one of us. I feel it too mate, trading becomes harder because of the growing community. There is a significant growth in number of traders in the previous years making the prices more unstable than ever, you can literally see the prices moving unprecedentedly. Though buying low and selling is still the best strategy to use, you cannot guarantee your winnings with sticking on it, you need to come up with something new that can cope up with the market.

Then for trading we must be smart at reading the market and can also apply risk management. If the matter can be done well, trading
or investment is easy to do. It can even be used as full time jobs.
I disagree on the latter words that you said. I can't imagine trading becoming a full time job, how can you do a sustaining profit every day? unless you're already rich so it would be nothing to you to lose $1000 in a day.
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June 24, 2020, 09:13:39 PM
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In another word, i will say not only trades and investments. Naturally, everything gets harder and harder and with the pandemic it keeps on going. This is why you need to find renewed confidence and continue to develop good trading traits. Continue to find new ways, methods and strategies to flourish as a trader irrespective of time
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At the moment the market is lateral, many affirm that it will rise due to the effect of FIAT money, due to the effect of Bitcoin's Halving, for trading right now it is best to know how to read the volume, that way you will have better criteria to when making decisions.

For the investment, it is best to do it and forget about it until a good time, time when you can take benefits. The difference between Trading and Investment is that the Investment needs to wait for a long time, and trading you must be aware of each movement of the market as you have chosen the timing, if you always trade at very low times, the probability of losing increases, because it doesn't give you time to react to volatility changes, which are usually abrupt.
Just on what i do read up on recent previous page where trading can really be considered investment they do only differ in terms of profitability and depending on what are the goals you do have set. In mention about profitability intensity then this will depend on how you do deal with things up.Some might go for longer terms and just decide to simply hold and some will like to trade or to see profits in shorter durations.
We might able to say its getting harder and harder depending on the current condition since there are lots of factors that do affect market movements and even on traditional business aspect.

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Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time.
I am seeing people call the 6k mark as "difficult times" and now 9k mark as difficult. So which mark is "easy" for you? If you keep thinking like that no price will seem fit for your buying or selling and you will waste time thinking. Those who bought at low can sell at this time if they need money at hand. Price is not going down below 9k for 2weeks now.

This is where people got mixed up and confused by the current price situation. Some might say we're in a difficult position and some said we're In a good path of direction.
Those who said $9,000 is a difficult position for the investors, then It's safe to say that these people just missed a good entry point. And those who are worried If the price drop down to $6,000, then this people might be looking forward for a bull season, ignoring the fact that they can actually maximize the future profit by purchasing more fragments of Bitcoin while the price is still affordable. 
Either way it's a win-win situation for the long term hodler with a long term perspective. This short term speculations and predictions doesn't matter anyway If you're aiming for a long term profit.

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Stop trading only depending on the signal of different groups of telegrams and others.
Start trading by analyzing yourself. Before buying any coin, check the volume, candlestick confirmation, support resistance. If you have a position to buy, buy it, otherwise wait. If these are followed, the loss will be less.
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The signals are really very unfortunate Following these the trade is getting tougher day by day It is much easier to trade when you can analyze the market and determine the exact price of the currency. Investing is much easier if you can understand the connection between the green and red lights of trading candles You have to try to learn something new by using your intellect.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Investing is for a long term and you have no control on it if you are going to have profit or loses. Trading for me is for a short term which you need to focus and watch the flow of value every time. You also have the control on it just to avoid loses. And sometimes it depends on a coin you are traded. Much better to select a valuable coin to trade like btc/usdt or btc/eth and have patience always. I think if you're going to focus on trading you can find strategy on how to gain and not to loss.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Different people have different trading strategies and while one might work for some it might not actually work for the others.
So it's the best thing to explore and find out a trading strategy which works well for you.
You say that you always end up losing the amount but if you change your perspective then you will know that you are the one who is selling your coins at a loss. If you just keep holding them until you make a profit out of it then you won't end up losing your investment.
So you have to explore a trading strategy in this way.

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Trading and investment is quite different, which ever one is preferable in your crypto career, investment requires patient as its the basic fact to follow. Your loss in trading should give more hints and new strategies to follow, but if that cause failure then advised to stop immediately.
While others are gaining thru trading and you are at loss all the time.
Yeah, because of non preparation and some undergo trading academy especially those of forex section. Preparation gives you insight on future.
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It is still the same as it was whats making it hard are the scam and exchange being hack almost every time. because of bitcoin volatile nature, it is hard to predict so if your not a seasoned crypto trader I suggest you buy and hold or look for another altcoin to trade such as ETH and EOS.
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for those who have no experience, it is strongly recommended to buy crypto coins that are not too risky such as Ethereum and EOS to invest in the long term. Ethereum and EOS are great for long-term investments when compared to Bitcoin which is too risky because of wild price changes.



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June 26, 2020, 04:32:57 AM
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I understand that there could be people who love to trade so much that they can't stop trading.
Or people who just see the movements and think that they are missing out a lot and want to be a part of it.

However none of those things are right thing to do since trading is not something you should do when you want to but a thing you should do when you find the right moment. Without getting to that right moment (usually bottom if you want to buy and peak when you want to sell) doing anything would hurt you overall. So, just keep waiting and do not act on anything unless you are absolutely forced to.

We need to make sure we slow down our trading and do it a lot less during these days since it is getting more and more volatile after a big stagnant period and it will certainly hurt anyone who goes overboard with their finances.
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Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time. Well i kinda attributed it to the whole market downtrends we are currently facing, the bears is at large and trading is much profitable during bear conditions. Nonetheless, there are still some traders making it quite well but it's isn't comparable to when there is a bull market
Naturally, trading in a situation where there aren't any events that would obviously benefit a large number of people requires skill and time. Sure, trading could easily be said as buy and HODL until you see a situation where your HODL strat finally worked, but that can't describe trading in its entirety after all.
agree with you...
for those who have no experience, it is strongly recommended to buy crypto coins that are not too risky such as Ethereum and EOS to invest in the long term. Ethereum and EOS are great for long-term investments when compared to Bitcoin which is too risky because of wild price changes.
Err what? Bitcoin outstrips altcoins by far in terms of long term investment. Stop talking about it's "wild price changes", we're talking about long term investments here, not short term ones. You just killed your own argument with that recommendation.

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June 27, 2020, 08:44:52 PM
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I understand that there could be people who love to trade so much that they can't stop trading.
Or people who just see the movements and think that they are missing out a lot and want to be a part of it.
No one loves trading as far as from my experience to be honest because it requires constant focus and brings strain but yeah I agree with you a lot of guys feel like they are missing out and that FOMO is what also make people buy some shit coins.

none of those things are right thing to do since trading is not something you should do when you want to but a thing you should do when you find the right moment. Without getting to that right moment (usually bottom if you want to buy and peak when you want to sell) doing anything would hurt you overall. So, just keep waiting and do not act on anything unless you are absolutely forced to.

There is no way you know the right moment anyways so that doesn't make sense to me and a good trader finds opportunity out of nowhere and if you are waiting for the absolute best price to sell/buy for an asset you sometime miss out on that or hold it for too long.

The only reason why trading is looking harder and harder is because everyone is doing it and the market is pretty saturated now so you can't just do it as easily as earlier and even whales struggle to profit now a days because they cant influence the market to the desired value and that is actually good for the market in general.
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Your loss in trading should give more hints and new strategies to follow, but if that cause failure then advised to stop immediately.

 This might be the point where you're headed towards a double edged-sword. In my opinion if trading isn't something you can make a profit on then there's something so fundamental that you're missing on. The logical solution would be to determine what that is and try again because traders haven't become successful overnight but with patience and lots of experience and by that I mean losses too. Though, as advised above there are also people/situations where perhaps the best thing to do is to look else where if trading isn't making you happy.





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I feel this. to be honest, trading is very difficult to analyze, and various investment sites on the internet become a scam, or not worth the price. This is different from previous years, where there are so many trusted projects. Well, it looks like we need to get used to this, and things could get better in the future

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
This is to be expected, as the market of cryptocurrencies becomes more popular and gets more liquidity this means more institutional investors are coming, and they are not here to lose, they are here to get money away from you, as such the days in which someone without too much knowledge about the markets could make a living here are over, however it is a little bit naive to think that profitable traders are here and will take the time to help you since they are probably too busy earning money or they simply have no desire to share their strategy with you.

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when the cryptocurrency market situation is still very volatile, it is indeed very difficult to determine the right position,
because it could be Fake, whales are playing
You guys are right by saying the cryptocurrency trading and investment situation is getting difficult but this is also the season to make a quick and constant profit if the trader/investor can properly manage and follow the whale's decision. However, this will require spending much time and putting emotion in check.

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when the cryptocurrency market situation is still very volatile, it is indeed very difficult to determine the right position,
because it could be Fake, whales are playing
You guys are right by saying the cryptocurrency trading and investment situation is getting difficult but this is also the season to make a quick and constant profit if the trader/investor can properly manage and [follow the whale's decision]. However, this will require spending much time and putting emotion in check.
Well, I need to clear this phrase that I bolded above. In what way we know how to follow the whales decision? Is this right for traders to rely upon whale's movement? I understand that it is hard to gain profit in trading but in investing perhaps you need to have perfect timing in investing, when you do that and there is bullish come, for sure your profit was there.

Trading is needed pure skills and you must good in technical and fundamental analysis, --or even what indicators you need to learn just explore and digging research perhaps makes you a high chance to gain profit both trading and investment.









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June 29, 2020, 08:47:02 AM
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when the cryptocurrency market situation is still very volatile, it is indeed very difficult to determine the right position,
because it could be Fake, whales are playing
You guys are right by saying the cryptocurrency trading and investment situation is getting difficult but this is also the season to make a quick and constant profit if the trader/investor can properly manage and [follow the whale's decision]. However, this will require spending much time and putting emotion in check.
Well, I need to clear this phrase that I bolded above. In what way we know how to follow the whales decision?
I know it sound weird but we have some project that follow big buy/sell of any cryptocurrency in the market (whales alert is an example) and the best way to follow whales decision is to subscribe to paid services of the project platform.

Is this right for traders to rely upon whale's movement? I understand that it is hard to gain profit in trading but in investing perhaps you need to have perfect timing in investing, when you do that and there is bullish come, for sure your profit was there.
Yes and no because the crypto market has different season but we're in whales market season which the reason why the market experienced sudden surge/dump and rely on whales movement is perfect decision now.

Trading is needed pure skills and you must good in technical and fundamental analysis, --or even what indicators you need to learn just explore and digging research perhaps makes you a high chance to gain profit both trading and investment.
Like you said traders need pure skill but not to understand TA and FA analysis alone for skill is needed to understand market season either in other thrive

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when the cryptocurrency market situation is still very volatile, it is indeed very difficult to determine the right position,
because it could be Fake, whales are playing
You guys are right by saying the cryptocurrency trading and investment situation is getting difficult but this is also the season to make a quick and constant profit if the trader/investor can properly manage and follow the whale's decision. However, this will require spending much time and putting emotion in check.
Agree! In this market condition, it's a good time to earn a quick and instant profit than investing in long-term projects. Because of the volatility of the market, we can quickly jump in to buy a coin and jump out when we hit our profit target. The important thing is that you have to have the ability to analyze the market to avoid the risk of losing your capital!

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June 29, 2020, 12:13:36 PM
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when the cryptocurrency market situation is still very volatile, it is indeed very difficult to determine the right position,
because it could be Fake, whales are playing
You guys are right by saying the cryptocurrency trading and investment situation is getting difficult but this is also the season to make a quick and constant profit if the trader/investor can properly manage and follow the whale's decision. However, this will require spending much time and putting emotion in check.
Agree! In this market condition, it's a good time to earn a quick and instant profit than investing in long-term projects. Because of the volatility of the market, we can quickly jump in to buy a coin and jump out when we hit our profit target. The important thing is that you have to have the ability to analyze the market to avoid the risk of losing your capital!
Thats correct but the stance of the market momentum make it hard to only rely on analysis and like i have said in my previous post, it better to include news and other activities that will somehow influence the price of the market.

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Both sides are quite difficult to make money. When it is moving like crazy it is hard to make a profit because you are at a situation where it is going up or down and moves frantically and you might miss all of it, you could buy it right when it starts to drop or you could sell it right when it is going up, it is a very very crazy situation and it creates a ton of trouble for everyone and you need to be very good at trading to know when to trade.

However when it is not volatile and it is staying around the same prices like it has in the past month, that means you can't really make a profit neither, it is not moving at all so how could you make a profit? At the end of the day we can't really make a profit without price changing. So what we need is middle of it, move a bit enough to make a profit but don't move like crazy.

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Both sides are quite difficult to make money. When it is moving like crazy it is hard to make a profit because you are at a situation where it is going up or down and moves frantically and you might miss all of it, you could buy it right when it starts to drop or you could sell it right when it is going up, it is a very very crazy situation and it creates a ton of trouble for everyone and you need to be very good at trading to know when to trade.

However when it is not volatile and it is staying around the same prices like it has in the past month, that means you can't really make a profit neither, it is not moving at all so how could you make a profit? At the end of the day we can't really make a profit without price changing. So what we need is middle of it, move a bit enough to make a profit but don't move like crazy.
True! The market volatility is the reason why we can earn profit out of these value differential! Therefore, it's not true to say that the market is too "volatility" so we should stop trading. The only thing we should do is adjust our goal from long-term to short-term. Consider the market circumstance like right now, we should only do daily trading to avoid the risk of being lost our capital!

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Both sides are quite difficult to make money. When it is moving like crazy it is hard to make a profit because you are at a situation where it is going up or down and moves frantically and you might miss all of it, you could buy it right when it starts to drop or you could sell it right when it is going up, it is a very very crazy situation and it creates a ton of trouble for everyone and you need to be very good at trading to know when to trade.

However when it is not volatile and it is staying around the same prices like it has in the past month, that means you can't really make a profit neither, it is not moving at all so how could you make a profit? At the end of the day we can't really make a profit without price changing. So what we need is middle of it, move a bit enough to make a profit but don't move like crazy.
True! The market volatility is the reason why we can earn profit out of these value differential! Therefore, it's not true to say that the market is too "volatility" so we should stop trading. The only thing we should do is adjust our goal from long-term to short-term. Consider the market circumstance like right now, we should only do daily trading to avoid the risk of being lost our capital!

not just profit but its also the reason why we loss but thats fine atleast we can utilize our losses and make a greater profit instead     . those who say the phrase avoid because its volatile are scared or does not have enough experience yet on these volatile market   .

volatile can be our friend too sometimes and not just enemy so why they are being one sided  ? i guess they also hate cryptos thats why they say those things to warn and scare people 
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Well, that is normal for investing and trading, we are all not sure to gain profit on it, there is no person who can predict the accurate value of the bitcoin in the future that is why trading and investing becomes so hard to make a profit but having knowledge and skills on it will lessen the possibility of losing your money. It has to earn first from both things but while you are having the experience you will gain skills that you can use to make a profit. You need to be more focused so you will be able to lessen the risk of losing your money.

I am also somehow related on you because it's so hard for me to win in trading and investing, well that's normal because I am still a beginner on both things, it's hard for me to earn because I don't have much experience on it.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Are you a beginner in trading?
When I was day trading and watching quite few Youtube videos back in the days, I thought it is gonna be an easy money for me because it is day trade anyway and what could go wrong if I just observe the market.
Turns out it was difficult actually. Depends on the situations these days.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Are you a beginner in trading?
When I was day trading and watching quite few Youtube videos back in the days, I thought it is gonna be an easy money for me because it is day trade anyway and what could go wrong if I just observe the market.
Turns out it was difficult actually. Depends on the situations these days.
The difficulty also varies depending on what kind of style of trading you decide to use, day trading is the most profitable of all but at the same time it is the most difficult one, the reason for this is that you have no time to take your decisions, you need to be able to execute your strategy on the blink of an eye because if you do not then it is possible the price will move against you to the point that a profitable trade now will be a losing one due to that initial lag.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Why not go for investment only? Trading is usually difficult and profit doesn’t come all the time, though there are people who are wizards in it, you just have to learn from them and be good. But if you can’t do that, then you can continue with investment. That’s the major I have been doing here, trading is something that I do once in a while, maybe when I want to trade.

I buy cryptocurrencies I like, a few of them up till their prices goes up. That’s how I’m doing my thing and it is working for me. And I also I’m not in a hurry, I have other businesses doing, so cryptocurrency is a side thing and I’m not expecting quick profit.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Why not go for investment only? Trading is usually difficult and profit doesn’t come all the time, though there are people who are wizards in it, you just have to learn from them and be good. But if you can’t do that, then you can continue with investment. That’s the major I have been doing here, trading is something that I do once in a while, maybe when I want to trade.

I buy cryptocurrencies I like, a few of them up till their prices goes up. That’s how I’m doing my thing and it is working for me. And I also I’m not in a hurry, I have other businesses doing, so cryptocurrency is a side thing and I’m not expecting quick profit.
That may be suitable for you. However, a lot of people consider this is their main job that creates their main income. Therefore, they have to do daily trading to earn profits. I think when you're experiencing continuous loss, you should stop trading for a bit and start to refresh your mind. Trading with an uncleared mind can be very harmful, it affects your ability to make a clear decision!

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July 13, 2020, 05:07:30 AM
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That may be suitable for you. However, a lot of people consider this is their main job that creates their main income.
I dont think trading or investing should be considered as a main job. These are all side methods of making money while having a job that generates daily/monthly income. Most of the users here are probably having a day job which is fine because it is a stable source of income.

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Therefore, they have to do daily trading to earn profits. I think when you're experiencing continuous loss, you should stop trading for a bit and start to refresh your mind. Trading with an uncleared mind can be very harmful, it affects your ability to make a clear decision!
Here comes the importance of breaks. While trading is a type of a passion, it can become harmful if you get emotional about what you buying/selling or holding on to something without logic. Accepting losses is important but being diligent about what you are putting your money in is also important.

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If you trade at a experience losses that's a common thing for anyone, but if you experience continuous losses. Means there is something wrong
with your way of trading, I'm sure you make mistakes that are repeated so that continues to suffer losses. Try to learn and find mistakes why
you can experience a loss, after finding the error, just fix it. There should be an improvement from your trading results, if there is still  no change,
look for a mentor who lives in your hometown. Ask him to guide you trading.

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July 13, 2020, 08:04:56 PM
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after finding the error, just fix it.

Trading errors are not easy to fix. Is not as simple as said because a trader who has not taken emotion into control would keep making mistakes. Trade isn't always about profit because losses come too but more profit is better. Work hard to understand a pattern of trade that works for you op.
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Trade and investment is getting more harder because there are so many scam that is happening in the crypto feild now a days, scams are everywhere and the trust in crypto is getting or becoming smaller this time. I believe that it is really hard to invest specially on some ICO because there are some ico that is scam and it is surely a great loss if we invest into it , so before we invest in crypto we need to search everything to avoid lossing of funds.

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I guess you are finding more ways to invest but diversifying your investments means a lot of work and more risks.

As other already said you should focus on a smaller scale rather than adding more cryptocurrencies to invest again. At that way you could adapt more on the changes that is happening and the risk is lower. As an investor lowering the risk you are taking is the best and that has a higher possibility of getting a profit.
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Trade and investment is getting more harder because there are so many scam that is happening in the crypto feild now a days, scams are everywhere and the trust in crypto is getting or becoming smaller this time. I believe that it is really hard to invest specially on some ICO because there are some ico that is scam and it is surely a great loss if we invest into it , so before we invest in crypto we need to search everything to avoid lossing of funds.

That is another thing, LOL. scams are always there and anyone with little crypto experience is going to determine if that is a scam or not. The main thing that making the market harder I think is the stability of it and the reading of it, (for me). Considering that the news about bitcoin is declining so, the market itself is going to be harder to ready, pumps and dumps are going to cause by whales without news. That's what I think, of today's scenario.

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July 14, 2020, 06:58:15 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Why not take a break for now and learn those strategies you’re talking about? If someone should recommend a strategy for you to use, you won’t copy and paste it and it starts working immediately, no it requires work and time before you will get perfect. That’s why you have to chill and create a strategy that you believe is going to work for you , and after you have created that strategy you can try to apply it on a few trades and see how it works.

Trading is not something we rush into, you have to relax and sort things out. Slow and steady will definitely get you easy and assured profits in consistent way. There are lots of prescribed methods are available on how to approach cryptocurrency trading; if you follow them then you can easily shine in crypto trading for sure.
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Trade and investment like what you do because if you continue to trade then at least you can realize where the mistakes are to be corrected and also, in trading you don't always have to chase for big profits because obviously it will be difficult to obtain and also, how long your investment has been carried out because for medium-term investments it is of course difficult for you to get good returns because even greater sacrifices must be made like long-term investments.

You have made a nice point that chasing big profit can cause losses but whether big, small or medium accounts, you can make profit if risks are minimize. Although smaller accounts can be difficult to build.
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Trade and investment like what you do because if you continue to trade then at least you can realize where the mistakes are to be corrected and also, in trading you don't always have to chase for big profits because obviously it will be difficult to obtain and also, how long your investment has been carried out because for medium-term investments it is of course difficult for you to get good returns because even greater sacrifices must be made like long-term investments.
Also the problem with investment is that you block your money for long periods and even after that only bitcoins seems to hold it's value while most of the other altcoins are just going to become non existent in the coming time apart from a few valuable ones.

I think investing has always been the harder option because one can trade and generate better profits and regular profits while investment is not easy at least for someone like me who is low on capital and high on skills so I always think like I can make better profits by trading and while investment is good but you still need something that gives you daily profits to live your life, which for me I think is trading and a little bit of freelancing tasks here and there.
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Trade and investment like what you do because if you continue to trade then at least you can realize where the mistakes are to be corrected and also, in trading you don't always have to chase for big profits because obviously it will be difficult to obtain and also, how long your investment has been carried out because for medium-term investments it is of course difficult for you to get good returns because even greater sacrifices must be made like long-term investments.
Also the problem with investment is that you block your money for long periods and even after that only bitcoins seems to hold it's value while most of the other altcoins are just going to become non existent in the coming time apart from a few valuable ones.

I think investing has always been the harder option because one can trade and generate better profits and regular profits while investment is not easy at least for someone like me who is low on capital and high on skills so I always think like I can make better profits by trading and while investment is good but you still need something that gives you daily profits to live your life, which for me I think is trading and a little bit of freelancing tasks here and there.
Neither of those things and it will depend on someone on which one he would chose as long it would benefit him neither for long term or short term ones but most of the time we do need to make out daily profits for living specially to those who dont have stable income from their day job or doesnt have one at all. This is an opportunity which do really give out chance for you to experience financial
support in spite on the current condition you are into.It all matter on how you do mix things up as long it do generate out profit or income to you then its considered good.

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Trade and investment like what you do because if you continue to trade then at least you can realize where the mistakes are to be corrected and also, in trading you don't always have to chase for big profits because obviously it will be difficult to obtain and also, how long your investment has been carried out because for medium-term investments it is of course difficult for you to get good returns because even greater sacrifices must be made like long-term investments.

You have made a nice point that chasing big profit can cause losses but whether big, small or medium accounts, you can make profit if risks are minimize. Although smaller accounts can be difficult to build.

It's better to minimize the risk even you are just getting small profits, though it's all depends from how traders practice their strategy and how comfortable they are from using the system.

It's hard as you need to developed manageable skills in order to compete and survived from this types of investment platforms. The deeper  you dig in the more you'll be able to maximize your opportunities.
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July 15, 2020, 03:43:46 AM
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Trade and investment like what you do because if you continue to trade then at least you can realize where the mistakes are to be corrected and also, in trading you don't always have to chase for big profits because obviously it will be difficult to obtain and also, how long your investment has been carried out because for medium-term investments it is of course difficult for you to get good returns because even greater sacrifices must be made like long-term investments.
Well, if it's trading then it's a matter of how to read patterns, and it's always been quite difficult to read. while for investment, this is not only a matter of time but an investment location that is already quite difficult to find. however, this is getting harder and harder. In the world of crypto, I only recommend investing in clear projects, which make sales in popular markets such as binance, credit cards, and others. while for existing coins, try choosing popular coins.

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July 15, 2020, 05:38:45 AM
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Trade and investment like what you do because if you continue to trade then at least you can realize where the mistakes are to be corrected and also, in trading you don't always have to chase for big profits because obviously it will be difficult to obtain and also, how long your investment has been carried out because for medium-term investments it is of course difficult for you to get good returns because even greater sacrifices must be made like long-term investments.

You have made a nice point that chasing big profit can cause losses but whether big, small or medium accounts, you can make profit if risks are minimize. Although smaller accounts can be difficult to build.

That is why we say it is better to get a profit than having ko profits at all.

Despite the hardships with the market we have, we should always push through since mistakes and losses are inevitable, minimizing risks can be really helpful for you to continue trading and investing. People should learn to minimize risks and don't mind getting less profits, you might never notice it but it would be bigger as time passes.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
There are more traders nowadays, and most are continuously learning and making ways to outsmart other traders. You should also look on the weak spots and try maximize or atleast use it's potential on winning your trades. If your strategy is not working good, change it. I suggest that you should set margins on when you should cut your loss and close the trade when you already satisfied on the profit.
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July 15, 2020, 12:39:54 PM
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In currency trading you either know what you are doing or not. If you want to play this market as trial-and-error, then better use demo account for this purpose. When you have clear strategy move to real account.
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July 15, 2020, 04:17:39 PM
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The current period in the cryptocurrency market is fundamentally different from 2016 and 2017. Investors have become more cautious and not always new projects receive good funding. And traders, due to the instability of the cryptocurrency market, can not always make successful transactions. but nevertheless, it is necessary to take into account the fact that any business has pitfalls that a businessman stumbles about, but there are also secrets that allow you to get around these obstacles. I am convinced that the cryptocurrency market is no exception. Traders very often use a combination of several trading methods and technical analysis, trying to find their intersection points, which ultimately leads to a good result.

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July 15, 2020, 06:00:15 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
There are more traders nowadays, and most are continuously learning and making ways to outsmart other traders. You should also look on the weak spots and try maximize or atleast use it's potential on winning your trades. If your strategy is not working good, change it. I suggest that you should set margins on when you should cut your loss and close the trade when you already satisfied on the profit.
I feel like it is because of the competition and people getting smarter as well. We had crypto for over 10 years now and that means people who are really interested trading like forex people and financial institutions came in and became a part of this world as well. So, all I can say right now is I doubt it will get harder in the future, it did became harder but I guess it was just this much.

Since there are more people trading and more people doing stuff, it feels like maybe there is really nothing that could change the difficulty anymore, they are all here you know? But even at that point if it gets harder every day, that just means there is more interest and more people, that is actually quite cool and I would love to get it harder and harder as long as it means we are getting adopted more and more.
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July 15, 2020, 06:22:42 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Before you make an investment in anything, you need to be clear about what your investment goals are and how you will achieve them.
There are some mistakes that are often made in investing or trading,as: Not doing research directly / Research not done properly,
Portfolios that are not diversified, Not up to date with investments made, Not following the investment plan that has been done,
Cut loss not done when the price goes down and the period of HODL coins is not long enough.
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July 16, 2020, 07:38:37 AM
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Trade enjoyable if you was learning before long time. With i do good time small trade in everyday because like my assets low. However invest give me loss everytime, why and how i can't make right decision.

   Romeotom maybe you have high goals, big expectations, and you get trapped every time because of that. You can't hurry
your trades and investments, give them more time and try to be more patient.
   I don't agree that investing is getting harder, it's same as before. It's hard for people who wish to make fast profit, but
that was hard before as well.
   Invest in long-term, find a good projects, invest and wait.



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July 16, 2020, 11:44:57 PM
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About investments I think they aren't becoming harder, they are just becoming more realistic. If you think on crypto universe 4 or 5 years ago there were lots of investments claiming to return profit to you from different activities, but in the end most of them revealed to be hyips, ponzi schemes or legit, but unprofitable cloud mining sites. Since then these investments sites decreased consistently, and you may think now it's hard to find options where to put your money to generate some extra passive income.

However there are other investments around like lending on exchanges or lending at defi platforms. I don't venture yet in saying the last option is good, but that is something to analyze, as it's a new option which is getting strength now (hype).

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July 17, 2020, 04:58:18 AM
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Investment in crypto is not that hard but the perception of investors is the problem, crypto Investment is something that will take time to mature and produce profit but crypto investors are not ready to wait, they want it very fast and it doesn't work that way,

All you need do is look for those project that have something to offer, that have utility, those project with outstanding dev team that are very committed to the project come what may, invest in this type of project and give it time to mature, time can be more than 3-5 years then see the outcome,

But in a situation where people expect their investment under one month on a new project to start bringing huge profit without any reasonable utility is more of a lie, a project needs to be able to provide a use case and demand for it, and to do this will take time.

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July 17, 2020, 07:20:52 AM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Yes, I have been through this difficult early stage, but if you are patient, good things will come to you. The special thing I realize about trading courses is that theory is just theory. It is important that you practice your trading methods on small trading accounts. When you're new to trading, don't trade with too big an account, just practice and do everything with discipline for 6 months, I guarantee your trading level will increase a lot. Continue to apply the methods you have learned and do it disciplined, after 1 month you will summarize the mistakes and correct it in the next month. I have done so and now I am trading quite well.


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No other way to multiply your investment with trading than to buy the dip and sell at pump, and don't forget you can't always predict rightly what the future market will look like, but through proper research and luck, profit is guaranteed.

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July 19, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Different people have different trading strategies and while one might work for some it might not actually work for the others.
So it's the best thing to explore and find out a trading strategy which works well for you.
You say that you always end up losing the amount but if you change your perspective then you will know that you are the one who is selling your coins at a loss. If you just keep holding them until you make a profit out of it then you won't end up losing your investment.
So you have to explore a trading strategy in this way.
You are right we all know this happens when the market falls so we should not lose hope but try to do the same with more practice and more effective ways to get profit altcoins never remain the same but we should focus on just its movements like when the price increase we should buy and when it falls we should sell. It's all about knowing the perfect time to take steps about altcoins.
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July 19, 2020, 02:45:37 PM
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we should focus on just its movements like when the price increase we should buy and when it falls we should sell. It's all about knowing the perfect time to take steps about altcoins.
I believe the same things are applicable even when you're trading bitcoin against fiats. I mean these watching price movements and finding right time to react are common even for bitcoin trading.

We need to remember the competitions in crypto trading is not like the early stages of its market. After the introduction of derivative exchanges, the crypto trading volume has significantly increased which means if you're not alter enough then you will simply miss out your entry and exit so cheaply. On this regard, there is no big differences between trading altcoins and trading bitcoin.

I guess, in near future we will be having more number of people entering into trading and investment opportunities of crypto space. This will definitely get us more opportunity at the same time competing each other will make finding good opportunities more complicated one. But, we cannot do anything about that because this is how all markets will be working and we need to bear and move on.
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July 19, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
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we should focus on just its movements like when the price increase we should buy and when it falls we should sell. It's all about knowing the perfect time to take steps about altcoins.
I believe the same things are applicable even when you're trading bitcoin against fiats. I mean these watching price movements and finding right time to react are common even for bitcoin trading.

We need to remember the competitions in crypto trading is not like the early stages of its market. After the introduction of derivative exchanges, the crypto trading volume has significantly increased which means if you're not alter enough then you will simply miss out your entry and exit so cheaply. On this regard, there are no big differences between trading altcoins and trading bitcoin.
There's indeed no big difference in trading bitcoin and altcoin but bitcoin trading is still the better option for especially the beginners cause its price usually maintains so balance while the altcoin market is highly manipulated. However, I think Best Dreams don't understand the aspect of how the market trend change simultaneously which make it hard for some traders to make a profit due to the huge competitions so trading is not all about focus on price movement and knowing the time to enter/exit because the knowledge of select the perfect coin need to be included.




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July 19, 2020, 10:37:07 PM
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Trading needs constitency, I don't believe trading is hard or getting harder each day, all you need is just to be focus and be consistent, the more effort you put in, the more income and experience you are likely to gain.

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July 19, 2020, 10:59:19 PM
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we should focus on just its movements like when the price increase we should buy and when it falls we should sell. It's all about knowing the perfect time to take steps about altcoins.
I believe the same things are applicable even when you're trading bitcoin against fiats. I mean these watching price movements and finding right time to react are common even for bitcoin trading.

We need to remember the competitions in crypto trading is not like the early stages of its market. After the introduction of derivative exchanges, the crypto trading volume has significantly increased which means if you're not alter enough then you will simply miss out your entry and exit so cheaply. On this regard, there are no big differences between trading altcoins and trading bitcoin.
There's indeed no big difference in trading bitcoin and altcoin but bitcoin trading is still the better option for especially the beginners cause its price usually maintains so balance while the altcoin market is highly manipulated. However, I think Best Dreams don't understand the aspect of how the market trend change simultaneously which make it hard for some traders to make a profit due to the huge competitions so trading is not all about focus on price movement and knowing the time to enter/exit because the knowledge of select the perfect coin need to be included.


All factors should really be considered before you do tend to jumped in into this market.From potential talks to volatility intensity because these are the reasons that do make out profits if you done it well.

If not then you will surely be fucked up if you do let yourself or do make mistakes will surely cost you. Trading isnt simple as it sounds, the mistakes of some people is that when someone do shows off some big
profits then they do have that belief that they can do it as well easily.

They soon realize that it doesnt work that way and it isnt simple as it sounds.

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July 19, 2020, 11:17:20 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
There are more traders nowadays, and most are continuously learning and making ways to outsmart other traders. You should also look on the weak spots and try maximize or atleast use it's potential on winning your trades. If your strategy is not working good, change it. I suggest that you should set margins on when you should cut your loss and close the trade when you already satisfied on the profit.
A realistic approach is better than sweat lies.No reason to pressure on the loser side, I understand the source of depression with heart and experience. The multi-million dollar technology and the guys with high grades from famous universities are against the probability of the trader who works harder to beat them for making a few bucks. The institutional traders don't care about this stuff and they only focus on the bonus if you know what I mean  Wink

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July 20, 2020, 01:26:08 AM
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We should always think both especially for those traders, those trader who frequently losing money on the market are the traders who are thinking one sided. What I mean is they only think that they will win and it is the reason why they do know what will they do when they lose money in the market. Risk management is important, we should have this especially if we are often buying and selling cryptocurrencies. It is okay to have mistakes sometimes but make sure that we learn from it. If we do not accept and learn from it, for sure the history will repeat itself where you will do the same mistakes that you did before.
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Risk management is important, we should have this especially if we are often buying and selling cryptocurrencies. It is okay to have mistakes sometimes but make sure that we learn from it. If we do not accept and learn from it, for sure the history will repeat itself where you will do the same mistakes that you did before.
When you will be going as per risk management principles then the chances for getting stuck both in trading and investment on this crypto space will be very less. Only the traders who are real ignoring all the basic principles of investments, usually finding it is too harder to crack profits.

Basically, we should not go in hurry, we should wait for the right opportunity to make use with our capital. If you notice, this crypto space is always continuously giving opportunities but we need to choose the right one based on our risk assessment. I'm not seeing traders are complaining more frequently about the hard time in making profits because crypto space is known for heavily fluctuating to get them opportunities and then profits.

All factors should really be considered before you do tend to jumped in into this market.From potential talks to volatility intensity because these are the reasons that do make out profits if you done it well.
As multiple factors influencing the level of success in trading and investment, people are finding it too hard to make use of crypto markets for their profits. I guess these are all will be slowly getting into not a consideration when people are gaining experience over trading and how to find right time to invest and then to trade.

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July 22, 2020, 09:09:14 AM
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Nothing should ever be said to be difficult. Everything depends on our efforts and strategy.
Trading and investment are two different things, but the profit comes from both. No matter how many mistakes are made, it is necessary to move forward without holding on to them. If you want to get success, you have to learn from the mistakes and move forward. But nothing will seem difficult anymore.

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July 22, 2020, 12:46:13 PM
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Investment in crypto is not that hard but the perception of investors is the problem, crypto Investment is something that will take time to mature and produce profit but crypto investors are not ready to wait, they want it very fast and it doesn't work that way,

If perception is the problem, that's just easy to improve and learn because that depends on us, traders. If you are courageous to improve in trading and determined to have a huge profit, you should know how to deal with the reality in the market. I'm sure that you have a background about cryptocurrency investments, by that, you just need to be patient on the results.

Trading needs constitency, I don't believe trading is hard or getting harder each day, all you need is just to be focus and be consistent, the more effort you put in, the more income and experience you are likely to gain.

For me, this isn't enough for you to grow in trading. Sometimes you need to take a break and reflect on your experiences and mistakes. Being consistent is not the only thing that you need to do, that can also lead you to more losses. When you feel like it is getting harder and harder each day, therefore, you are not improving.

To make it better, you need to adapt and adjust depending in the market situation.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, trading from the very start is not that easy were you supposed to be aware of that.
And the more failures We encounter in the actual trading platform, is the more lesson We gain from it,
isn't it right? Because, through my experienced in trading after 3 years doing it, I just fully understand
how to apply TA and Timing when you do trade anyway.
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Trading and investing has never been easy before to a novice and an expert because the market's movement wasn't always the same. It is why even people are trading for months or years; they continuously learn and analyze the market price movement for them to make a successful trade. So if you want to earn a good profit, we should keep learning and improving ourselves in trading and other fields in cryptocurrency.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

You can stop if you are experiencing continuous loss, it's like gambling if you are suffering from series of bad loss then you need to stop and study and check where and what you are missing, sometimes your tools and your system are ok you are just missing something along the way, ot you are just forgetting something that you failed to implement.
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day trading is the most profitable of all but at the same time it is the most difficult one, the reason for this is that you have no time to take your decisions, you need to be able to execute your strategy on the blink of an eye because if you do not then it is possible the price will move against you to the point that a profitable trade now will be a losing one due to that initial lag.
Yeah, in the case of day trading you just have to improve your strategy. If the strategy you’re using now is not working out for you, then you will have to study other strategies and try to apply them the right ways and make profit.

As for investment, try to analyse the market, or if you can’t do that you can choose to join some groups that will give you the right signals to invest, or you can be reading some helpful analysis articles that will propel you from the lowest position to the top. When you are technically sound then the chances for being a loser will get shrunken.

Obviously all money making things will get tougher out of heavy competitions. When more people join whether into trading or investments, it will get like crowded street where no one could get time to do what they prefer but need to react how others urge to hurry up. It has no differences from what right now crypto trading and investment world are doing.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
I will advise you to keep following what you are doing now and learn your own patterns of investment and trading instead of depending on external information which will create more money for those that has learned on how to trade. You are the best trader if you are not lose money!
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July 26, 2020, 08:49:28 PM
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Nothing should ever be said to be difficult. Everything depends on our efforts and strategy.
Trading and investment are two different things, but the profit comes from both. No matter how many mistakes are made, it is necessary to move forward without holding on to them. If you want to get success, you have to learn from the mistakes and move forward. But nothing will seem difficult anymore.

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July 26, 2020, 10:46:48 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, trading from the very start is not that easy were you supposed to be aware of that.
And the more failures We encounter in the actual trading platform, is the more lesson We gain from it,
isn't it right? Because, through my experienced in trading after 3 years doing it, I just fully understand
how to apply TA and Timing when you do trade anyway.

Trading cant really be learn up on a short span of time and this is where some people do lost its track when they are trying to fasten things up without even realizing that
their expectations would really be different in reality and all of us would really experience lots of losses before we do able to learn and thats how things work.
Investment isnt simple yet we know that risk is always accompanied on it but somehow this thing can be handled out with experience and knowledge that can be attained
in a short time.Its not getting harder and harder, it just really need time.

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July 27, 2020, 04:43:55 AM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, trading from the very start is not that easy were you supposed to be aware of that.
And the more failures We encounter in the actual trading platform, is the more lesson We gain from it,
isn't it right? Because, through my experienced in trading after 3 years doing it, I just fully understand
how to apply TA and Timing when you do trade anyway.

Trading cant really be learn up on a short span of time and this is where some people do lost its track when they are trying to fasten things up without even realizing that
their expectations would really be different in reality and all of us would really experience lots of losses before we do able to learn and thats how things work.
Investment isnt simple yet we know that risk is always accompanied on it but somehow this thing can be handled out with experience and knowledge that can be attained
in a short time.Its not getting harder and harder, it just really need time.
Traders should not be stagnant when it comes to studying the market because trading is a process of learning and there are always market changes that is why we should prepare on that. For those who keep losing in trading, maybe the market is not the reason on why it is happening. Lack of planning, incomplete strategy and bad mentality are the main factors why we lose. Focus on improving our skills and we should always have plan if we want to execute our trades.
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It is not hard to trade if you know what are you doing, it will only be hard for those people who do have lack of experience and knowledge about it. I studied 6 months before I put money on trading, I really worked hard and I study hard in those past 6 months but it is still not enough when I executed my first trade because it is really different. I tried the demo before I opened real account and everything is really different because there is pressure and many emotions that you keep feeling when trading. It's been 2 years and I'm still consistently making money in cryptocurrency market but I still experiencing losses because it is inevitable.

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August 07, 2020, 12:59:00 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
No doubt sir. Nowadays many projects get launch in market but flee away after raised money from investors. And bot makes trading so much disgusting and harder. So it's not possible to choice scam project for investment and doing trade, in spite of having good expriance.

For newbies or initially when you are entering the crypto world, start with making investment in Bitcoin and some top-rated altcoins only. Since form last 15 days if you see, we are witnessing bull run of bitcoin and your investment if had being done in such coins you are already making profits. So, make some profits and then from that gain start trading of coins which are liquid ones.
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August 07, 2020, 01:26:49 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
If day trading is too difficult for you, you should switch to spot trading. It will be much better for your mentality, your plan is just to anticipate the time it takes to hold your coin. I feel this investment will ease stress and give us a very different feeling. You can learn Warren Buffett's fundamentals and apply it in crypto or stock markets, I used to do that and it was very effective.


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August 07, 2020, 01:57:54 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
No doubt sir. Nowadays many projects get launch in market but flee away after raised money from investors. And bot makes trading so much disgusting and harder. So it's not possible to choice scam project for investment and doing trade, in spite of having good expriance.

For newbies or initially when you are entering the crypto world, start with making investment in Bitcoin and some top-rated altcoins only. Since form last 15 days if you see, we are witnessing bull run of bitcoin and your investment if had being done in such coins you are already making profits. So, make some profits and then from that gain start trading of coins which are liquid ones.

Of course, what you are talking about is very good advice, but because of what is happening in the cryptocurrency market today, my brain is boiling. Of course, this is all due to a lack of experience, because I am afraid to sell my asset prematurely, especially when I observe good growth rates in the prices of rated cryptocurrencies. I haven't placed a single order lately.

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Maybe there is a wrong strategy that you use, therefore when you trade and invest, you experience continuous losses.
You can learn to improve your trading skills by viewing some of the trading tutorials on the youtube platform. There you
can learn various strategies that you might use, Moreover, a positive crypto market is now a good opportunity to practice
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August 08, 2020, 06:58:08 AM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
If day trading is too difficult for you, you should switch to spot trading. It will be much better for your mentality, your plan is just to anticipate the time it takes to hold your coin. I feel this investment will ease stress and give us a very different feeling. You can learn Warren Buffett's fundamentals and apply it in crypto or stock markets, I used to do that and it was very effective.

We should always go to spot trading, if people don't have much experience to leverage trading. Even in spot trading we should always choose them wisely for investing in coin because large volume coin will always have growth in the market, spot is very good to learn for Newbie also.

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It would be really difficult to answer your query since you have not mentioned how you are losing money trading.
Profit and loss are a part of trading and it is natural to lose sometimes. But if you are constantly losing then there is something that is not right with your trading strategy. You should change your strategy whenever it is not making you any money.
Tough the market condition was not so good earlier these days it is getting better.
If you focus on your strategy well then I am sure you will definitely make profits.

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Yes, it is very hard time to investment and trade, we lose and continues lose, but if we research and more knowledge about crypto, then we can profit otherwise we can't progress our trading platform. Now, i also lose 70$,  i buy mexc token of 100$ and lose very much, hope i can profit very soon.         

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Firstly, investment is hard for them who don't have enough ideas and knowledge about making right decision where to investment.
Secondly cant deny that trade is getting harder. No matter how experienced trader you are but cryto doesn't follow any rules and regulations. Can drop without any future signal.so its possible to face loss even you are a experience trader

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Yes, it is very hard time to investment and trade, we lose and continues lose, but if we research and more knowledge about crypto, then we can profit otherwise we can't progress our trading platform. Now, i also lose 70$,  i buy mexc token of 100$ and lose very much, hope i can profit very soon.         
Firstly, investment is hard for them who don't have enough ideas and knowledge about making right decision where to investment.
Secondly cant deny that trade is getting harder. No matter how experienced trader you are but cryto doesn't follow any rules and regulations. Can drop without any future signal.so its possible to face loss even you are a experience trader
Every kind of trading assets has been like that as far as I know, only the strategies are getting changed to the current trend.In cryptos it is always possible to make money the harder depends on how much margin you are looking for to reach, which is going to be more easier when you have less margin.









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Yes, it is very hard time to investment and trade, we lose and continues lose, but if we research and more knowledge about crypto, then we can profit otherwise we can't progress our trading platform. Now, i also lose 70$,  i buy mexc token of 100$ and lose very much, hope i can profit very soon.         
I learned a lot before when I lose 1btc, that moment I promise myself that I will learn and learn  so that I would not lose any single amount of money because every cents matters to me. Then from that day I watch some videos, read some books and made some small trades so that I can apply what I learned in every thing that I watch and read.

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as i think, those are generally depends on your gained knowledge and skill. If you have enough knowledge of investment and proper skill of trade, then those are very easy matter to you and can easily avoid losing your fund. If you don't have, then those are really hard even more than your imagination

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It's not difficult if you study first, try to understand the market situation that occurs, trading is not just buying and selling. Investment is not just putting a large fund in a project.

Needing the ability to analyze and find the right time to trade and invest, I suggest you always learn and the failure you get is a process that must be passed. But if you are tired, there is time to take a break to stay mentally healthy.


Thanks for sharing your opinion.. It'll be very useful for us.

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Try to figure out what kind of trader you are, try to explore things and read more about trading if you are not earning maybe there's something with your analysis or there's something wrong when you are applying your method.

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October 04, 2020, 08:53:51 PM
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as i think, those are generally depends on your gained knowledge and skill. If you have enough knowledge of investment and proper skill of trade, then those are very easy matter to you and can easily avoid losing your fund. If you don't have, then those are really hard even more than your imagination

Losing is unavoidable and inevitable but the good thing here if you're skilled and knowledgeable is that you do able to lessen up the risk and make yourself profitable in the end of the day.

Being profitable does really depend on how good you are on what you are engaging neither you are doing trading or other stuffs that we do know on this market which do give out chance
to make money.

It all matters on how you do deal with it and be intelligent on making good decisions on when to take profit or when to put down on investment.

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October 04, 2020, 11:39:18 PM
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It is probably hard for you because you are doing a lot of things. Just try to focus on one thing either purely investment or trading alone. Because if you are focusing on one thing at a time you can eventually increase your knowledge and surely you can master your strategy. And now, please ask yourself which actually you want to explore first or the thing you are preferred of, then you could see the difference.
However, even you focus in trading you won`t get any opportunity if you are new and the market is at the bear season. Definitely, you just wasted your time and effort in the market. The first thing we have to do is to learn what the best strategy suits to ourselves. In fact, having a frequent time in trading can be done without losing a lot of money. Swing trading is my strategy, I always double up my portfolio because I wait for a couple of days to sell my position. As long as we hit the bottom and have a good strategy in picking of a coin, we won`t lose in market even we have a lot of things we did outside of the market.

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Yes definitely trading and investment getting harder now as earlier days in cryptocurrencies because everyday lots of new crypto coming in market and total marketcap fluctuaing arround this. Very difficult now to choose a good project and invest or trade for good profit. not meaning that no project will go higher in price, you have to select excellent projects and research very deeply about their effects to invest.

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The effectiveness of one's strategy depends on the person who uses that strategy.

Focus on which seems to be effective for you. Do yourself a favor of doing one thing first before doing two things at the same time. Trade works for others and investing for others too.

Choose one to priority.



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The reason why trade investment is strong is that the market is constantly updated and many people do not understand the correct trends of the market so they are more vulnerable and both trade investments seem difficult to them. If we can learn the techniques of trade and try to understand the new rules more actively in the market then trade investment will become much easier.
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It is indeed that trading is getting harder most specially because we are into a volatile market on which prices do changes in no time and no one knows when will be the perfect time and what will be the behavior of the market. But maybe if you will manage to study again and conceptualize the approach you have right now and think of what is wrong on your doings and what must you improve to make it a lot much better, maybe you could resolve such problem you are having right now. Maybe all of us are having a difficulty but that was just normal. When doing trading, learning never stops, since we are in a fast changing market, we must learn to adapt and be observant to be able to formulate new approach that can possibly suit the situation we are facing into a certain coin so that we may at least gain improvement on how we will act upon the situation which can make our tradings profitable.



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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, trading from the very start is not that easy were you supposed to be aware of that.
And the more failures We encounter in the actual trading platform, is the more lesson We gain from it,
isn't it right? Because, through my experienced in trading after 3 years doing it, I just fully understand
how to apply TA and Timing when you do trade anyway.

Trading cant really be learn up on a short span of time and this is where some people do lost its track when they are trying to fasten things up without even realizing that
their expectations would really be different in reality and all of us would really experience lots of losses before we do able to learn and thats how things work.
Investment isnt simple yet we know that risk is always accompanied on it but somehow this thing can be handled out with experience and knowledge that can be attained
in a short time.Its not getting harder and harder, it just really need time.
Traders should not be stagnant when it comes to studying the market because trading is a process of learning and there are always market changes that is why we should prepare on that. For those who keep losing in trading, maybe the market is not the reason on why it is happening. Lack of planning, incomplete strategy and bad mentality are the main factors why we lose. Focus on improving our skills and we should always have plan if we want to execute our trades.
Some traders don't study the market very before trading, which is part of the learning process, not diversifing their study, market sentiment can change at any time, there are times when prices are ranging thus there is no definite direction i.e price not bullish or bearish at this point trading might be very difficult to make a decent profit, a wise trader will stay away for a while until the market begins to trend that is when to enter it at an appropriate entry zone to have a decent risk to reward ratio.
Setting up a good trading strategy and money management are of some the necessary skills to be considered in trading, of course their no holy grail in trading losses are bound to happen however a good MM will give room for profit in a long run.

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October 06, 2020, 02:37:44 PM
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, trading from the very start is not that easy were you supposed to be aware of that.
And the more failures We encounter in the actual trading platform, is the more lesson We gain from it,
isn't it right? Because, through my experienced in trading after 3 years doing it, I just fully understand
how to apply TA and Timing when you do trade anyway.

Trading cant really be learn up on a short span of time and this is where some people do lost its track when they are trying to fasten things up without even realizing that
their expectations would really be different in reality and all of us would really experience lots of losses before we do able to learn and thats how things work.
Investment isnt simple yet we know that risk is always accompanied on it but somehow this thing can be handled out with experience and knowledge that can be attained
in a short time.Its not getting harder and harder, it just really need time.
Traders should not be stagnant when it comes to studying the market because trading is a process of learning and there are always market changes that is why we should prepare on that. For those who keep losing in trading, maybe the market is not the reason on why it is happening. Lack of planning, incomplete strategy and bad mentality are the main factors why we lose. Focus on improving our skills and we should always have plan if we want to execute our trades.
Some traders don't study the market very before trading, which is part of the learning process, not diversifing their study, market sentiment can change at any time, there are times when prices are ranging thus there is no definite direction i.e price not bullish or bearish at this point trading might be very difficult to make a decent profit, a wise trader will stay away for a while until the market begins to trend that is when to enter it at an appropriate entry zone to have a decent risk to reward ratio.
Setting up a good trading strategy and money management are of some the necessary skills to be considered in trading, of course their no holy grail in trading losses are bound to happen however a good MM will give room for profit in a long run.

You guys are quite right with this. Trading is about learning, development of strategy and then watching trend. A ranging market is difficult to trade just as you said. Again money management is good to succeed in trading. You risk your account, you go out quickly. Is about patient to succeed in life in general.

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Learning is must before start trades or doing any investment. my boss always tell me one thing "first learn, then earn".and he is right.after knowing more about these, your confusion will be reduced and you can freely take decision what to trade or when to investment.things will automatically become easy for you if you learn first. without proper learning, it's just time waste, loss of funds & could be a result of failure.

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That's why you need a lot of experience in this ever-changing market, especially due to the popularity of derivatives exchanges. I have been in this market for almost 3 years and sometimes still feel my knowledge is not enough. You need to learn to practice continuously.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
Before investing into a coin firstly you must have find out this project's roadmap and its demand potentially in future after finding legit project you need to wait more for buying at deep and hold it till hitting expected zone. Hopefully you will understand what i already be said.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

These days, most traders end up in loss. Although they might make profit at 1st before ending in loss. This is because the market is smarter now and It not in one direction. My advice for you is to find people who are in good groups that give Legit info about trading and investments and your losses will reduce.
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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

These days, most traders end up in loss. Although they might make profit at 1st before ending in loss. This is because the market is smarter now and It not in one direction. My advice for you is to find people who are in good groups that give Legit info about trading and investments and your losses will reduce.

To understand the world of online cryptocurrencies trading, you should understand yourself first. If one lacks the ability to learn from their own mistakes, then even the most expensive online cryptocurrencies trading course won’t help them succeed. Before you learn to trade cryptocurrencies for free, you should understand that emotional self-control is the key to success. Any good cryptocurrencies trading course will guide traders through the complexities of cryptocurrencies trading psychology.
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Yes it is become harder because there is no easy everything you need to make a search on the fields you want to do just like in trading if you want to do that you just need to focus so you can be able to earn money on  trading. Full time is better in trading because you are on tkme when the price is increase because sometimes those people who are in part time sometimes we did not see the highest vakue because it dump fastly time management also is very important.
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Compared to the past, it is true that investment and trade are now somewhat more competitive and difficult than ever before. At present, it is very difficult to find good quality and promising projects for investment as most cryptocurrency-related projects are based on fraud and speculation. However, this statement is not entirely appropriate in the case of trade because it will be easier and more profitable for you if you can gain thorough knowledge and experience about trade. The more you learn about trading, the easier it will be for you to trade.

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what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.
I think you need to be focus in trading or in investing. Just choose one and focus to it to avoid losing. Much better choose trading because you can get profits here short term even in long term. Just choose coins you gonna trade then buy some coin to start trading. In short trade you can get a good profit if you gonna be wise. So choose only to avoid losing your money.
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Trading was never easy, no matter what some may say and think but it's true that is getting harder and harder. There are so many coins available, market is very complex and if you want to make at least some success you need to be fully dedicated to trading and investing. Part time trading isn't very good option anymore because it's almost impossible to be present in the market in sufficient way, follow everything was is happening and be well informed to make quality investment moves.

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Trading was never easy, no matter what some may say and think but it's true that is getting harder and harder. There are so many coins available, market is very complex and if you want to make at least some success you need to be fully dedicated to trading and investing. Part time trading isn't very good option anymore because it's almost impossible to be present in the market in sufficient way, follow everything was is happening and be well informed to make quality investment moves.

Well for me trading level of difficulty didn't changed, it is still the same as before but it only getting harder on how do we approached in trading. Of course as newbie it is hardest enough to manage since you are started in trading, at this stage you are not fully equipped with how trader requires. At this stage you only have that idea of how trading is, and what it is. But as time passes by while doing your trading there you can develop your own strategic plan on how to dealt with it a little more careful than you used before.
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Compared to the past, it is true that investment and trade are now somewhat more competitive and difficult than ever before. At present, it is very difficult to find good quality and promising projects for investment as most cryptocurrency-related projects are based on fraud and speculation. However, this statement is not entirely appropriate in the case of trade because it will be easier and more profitable for you if you can gain thorough knowledge and experience about trade. The more you learn about trading, the easier it will be for you to trade.
We need knowledge and experience. These two are essential if you're going to invest or be a trader. We need to fill our minds first of an information about the investment we're getting in to be aware of how the things work.

As a trader experience is a big help to better understand trading and to improve your strategy. Its not really easy to earn when investing or as a trader. There are times you'll experience to lose but it will give you a lesson that you can use the next time you try again.

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Trading was never easy, no matter what some may say and think but it's true that is getting harder and harder. There are so many coins available, market is very complex and if you want to make at least some success you need to be fully dedicated to trading and investing. Part time trading isn't very good option anymore because it's almost impossible to be present in the market in sufficient way, follow everything was is happening and be well informed to make quality investment moves.
It wasn't an easy thing.

By hearing it, we can conclude that it is easy. Hearing those success stories of traders but it was never been an easy journey for them.

The application and living by it is much even harder.



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Trading was never easy, no matter what some may say and think but it's true that is getting harder and harder. There are so many coins available, market is very complex and if you want to make at least some success you need to be fully dedicated to trading and investing. Part time trading isn't very good option anymore because it's almost impossible to be present in the market in sufficient way, follow everything was is happening and be well informed to make quality investment moves.
It wasn't an easy thing.

By hearing it, we can conclude that it is easy. Hearing those success stories of traders but it was never been an easy journey for them.

The application and living by it is much even harder.

The application itself in order to have a successful journey will take time.

It's always your passion together with your skills and dedication that builds everything, you can't just go ahead and think that you can simply place your order and expect for the big outcome,
With how the market works now, lots of competitions are there as people started to ventures with their own opportunities, the more people inside the more influenced that it brings, the difficulty levels are getting higher as those newcomers are also bringing weight to the industry.
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October 27, 2020, 11:50:50 AM
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Trading was never easy, no matter what some may say and think but it's true that is getting harder and harder. There are so many coins available, market is very complex and if you want to make at least some success you need to be fully dedicated to trading and investing. Part time trading isn't very good option anymore because it's almost impossible to be present in the market in sufficient way, follow everything was is happening and be well informed to make quality investment moves.
It wasn't an easy thing.

By hearing it, we can conclude that it is easy. Hearing those success stories of traders but it was never been an easy journey for them.

The application and living by it is much even harder.

The application itself in order to have a successful journey will take time.

It's always your passion together with your skills and dedication that builds everything, you can't just go ahead and think that you can simply place your order and expect for the big outcome,
With how the market works now, lots of competitions are there as people started to ventures with their own opportunities, the more people inside the more influenced that it brings, the difficulty levels are getting higher as those newcomers are also bringing weight to the industry.
To sump up, including the experience also portrays a big part in trading.

Without such, you're walking blindly just as most of the newbies that have lesser experience. They tend to commit mistakes at the beginning because they need it.



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October 28, 2020, 01:50:08 PM
 #198

I think trading and investing are 2 different things and should be treated differently.

Investing is more of a longterm thing, into a business you really know all the facts about.

Trading BTC EUR is more of the technical aspect imho. You trade something without knowing all the fundamentals, if you have a specific trading process you can repeat over and over again.
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