Life will most likely never return to normal, or at least in a very long time

[thehun]

It's not only about the people dying or suffering, the crashing economy or any other pains yet to come. It's about a whole new paradigm in the way we understand life, social interactions, fun and relationships.

Will we (or young people at least ) ever be able to go out clubbing again?



Will rock/metal concerts ever be the same?



How will singles go out to meet new people who could possibly be their life companions? How will they be able to break the distance barrier?



Will people in Latin countries ever be able to greet each other with 2 kisses on the cheek?



Will it be at all possible to keep small children in schools separated from each other?




There are so many questions and way too few answers. I have a feeling that life as we have known it is going to change drastically, with new upcoming social conventions, more (forced) individualism and a yet sharper decline in birth rate. I don't believe there will be a magical vaccine that will make us safe again from one day to the next, nor any group immunity coming soon. And even if there is, it will take long for people to feel confident about going "back to normal" again.

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[Gyfts]

There were some studies released that coronavirus doesn't affect children the way it does adults and that potentially, infected children might not be transmissible to adults. With that being said, there was an outbreak of some sort of COVID related syndrome that affected 50 children, but they're treatable. I think we'll probably be able to open up schools sooner than people think.

As far as concerts goes, it's a wrap. You're not going to see concerts until 2021 at the earliest and many of the small business venues that host these events are going to have to close as a result.

[BADecker]

Life is returning to normal. What is normal? Prior to about 300 years ago, people had to slave to make a living, just to survive.

Think of what it is like to make everything you have from scratch. Make your clothes, build your house, grow your own food, teach your kids at home, do everything for yourself... except when a few families got together and helped each other out.

The last 300 years is where we got to do all kinds of things never done before. What other time in history did average families have cars and super-highways to drive them on? Whoever heard of TV or radio and other forms of communications we take as normal?

The last 300 years has been a departure from the normal. Time for us all to wake up to what normal was for thousands of years.

Things are returning to normal, even though it is happening through a fake-Covid pandemic.

[thehun]

There were some studies released that coronavirus doesn't affect children the way it does adults and that potentially, infected children might not be transmissible to adults. With that being said, there was an outbreak of some sort of COVID related syndrome that affected 50 children, but they're treatable. I think we'll probably be able to open up schools sooner than people think.

As far as concerts goes, it's a wrap. You're not going to see concerts until 2021 at the earliest and many of the small business venues that host these events are going to have to close as a result.

It might not affect children in a very harmful way but they do seem to act as contagious vectors and they would of course have to be kept away from their grandparents (another sad event).

I wish 2021 would be a realistic target for a return to normality but I don't see it so close.

[thehun]

Life is returning to normal. What is normal? Prior to about 300 years ago, people had to slave to make a living, just to survive.

Think of what it is like to make everything you have from scratch. Make your clothes, build your house, grow your own food, teach your kids at home, do everything for yourself... except when a few families got together and helped each other out.

The last 300 years is where we got to do all kinds of things never done before. What other time in history did average families have cars and super-highways to drive them on? Whoever heard of TV or radio and other forms of communications we take as normal?

The last 300 years has been a departure from the normal. Time for us all to wake up to what normal was for thousands of years.

Things are returning to normal, even though it is happening through a fake-Covid pandemic.

I don't really see it as a return to the past, but rather a shift in the present. I mean, we have the technology (especially the Internet and everything it allows), ways to produce cheap energy and food, we give more value to human life and the general level of education has improved drastically. Will we see a reduction of consumerism? Yes, of course, there was never a real need to get a new car every 5 years, or to go on holiday to another continent once a year. But I don't think we will have to start growing our own food and that kind of stuff (although many will choose to do it if they can).

[BADecker]

Life is returning to normal. What is normal? Prior to about 300 years ago, people had to slave to make a living, just to survive.

Think of what it is like to make everything you have from scratch. Make your clothes, build your house, grow your own food, teach your kids at home, do everything for yourself... except when a few families got together and helped each other out.

The last 300 years is where we got to do all kinds of things never done before. What other time in history did average families have cars and super-highways to drive them on? Whoever heard of TV or radio and other forms of communications we take as normal?

The last 300 years has been a departure from the normal. Time for us all to wake up to what normal was for thousands of years.

Things are returning to normal, even though it is happening through a fake-Covid pandemic.

I don't really see it as a return to the past, but rather a shift in the present. I mean, we have the technology (especially the Internet and everything it allows), ways to produce cheap energy and food, we give more value to human life and the general level of education has improved drastically. Will we see a reduction of consumerism? Yes, of course, there was never a real need to get a new car every 5 years, or to go on holiday to another continent once a year. But I don't think we will have to start growing our own food and that kind of stuff (although many will choose to do it if they can).

With regard to the past, there isn't any such thing as a shift in the present. There is only the present, which differs from the past. Any shift that is being done is a simple changing of present into what suddenly becomes past. And, this is what always has been done and happened. So, since it has always been done this way, everything is operating normally right now.

The reason a person might think that things are not normal now, is that he hasn't experienced enough of life to know that there is always change. He might be losing some of his toys or freedom right now, but it isn't normal to him because it never happened to him before. But it has happened to lots of other people in many different ways.

The biggest normal that has ever existed is the normal of people doing it all for themselves, except that they had a little help from a few friends.

[Gyfts]

There were some studies released that coronavirus doesn't affect children the way it does adults and that potentially, infected children might not be transmissible to adults. With that being said, there was an outbreak of some sort of COVID related syndrome that affected 50 children, but they're treatable. I think we'll probably be able to open up schools sooner than people think.

As far as concerts goes, it's a wrap. You're not going to see concerts until 2021 at the earliest and many of the small business venues that host these events are going to have to close as a result.

It might not affect children in a very harmful way but they do seem to act as contagious vectors and they would of course have to be kept away from their grandparents (another sad event).

I wish 2021 would be a realistic target for a return to normality but I don't see it so close.

There were some reports about kids not acting as transmission vectors, but of course the preliminary reports should always be taken with a grain of salt until it's verifiable.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article242403731.html

If it ends up being the case that kids don't transmit the virus, then it means opening up schools in the Fall. People are underestimating the fact that a home education for some people isn't viable if their parents can't teach them. 

[BADecker]

“PROF. LOCKDOWN” CAUGHT MASSAGING THE STAATS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ep58auSuoE



Neil Ferguson "made" the computer code for the modeling that started the whole pandemic. He finally gave us the programming code. Turns out that what he gave us is crap, and... it wasn't the original code. Probably he never had a code. It probably was all guesswork... or worse, deadly propaganda.

The whole pandemic is based on a lie.

[squatz1]

I wouldn't use the term never, but it will take sometime until life is back to what we think of as normal. Most people aren't going to be too excited to be going out in a time like this, even if government restrictions begin to lax, I highly doubt that restaurants are going to fill up, or sports stadiums will fill up, and so on and so forth.

A large amount of offices are going to have people work from home while having people come to the office in shifts. I know this is pretty common right now for companies that need to have their workers in the office (and are deemed essential) and can't just work fully online for some reason.

People are going to want to wait for a vaccine, but they'll probably just settle for not having large events if the spread slows and deaths slow. Obviously older people and those that are at risk are still going to be at home though. Education is a tough one, and I expect for that to be online for at least the first half of the next school year. Going to be hard for schools (and really everyone) when flu season comes and its hard to differentiate who has Corona and who has the flu.

[Twinkledoe]

I wouldn't use the term never, but it will take sometime until life is back to what we think of as normal. Most people aren't going to be too excited to be going out in a time like this, even if government restrictions begin to lax, I highly doubt that restaurants are going to fill up, or sports stadiums will fill up, and so on and so forth.

A large amount of offices are going to have people work from home while having people come to the office in shifts. I know this is pretty common right now for companies that need to have their workers in the office (and are deemed essential) and can't just work fully online for some reason.

People are going to want to wait for a vaccine, but they'll probably just settle for not having large events if the spread slows and deaths slow. Obviously older people and those that are at risk are still going to be at home though. Education is a tough one, and I expect for that to be online for at least the first half of the next school year. Going to be hard for schools (and really everyone) when flu season comes and its hard to differentiate who has Corona and who has the flu.

Yes, if the vaccine is already available to the public, I think it will start to return to normal. However, this will take maybe years but OP don't say never. And also, once the potent combination of medicines is identified, we will slowly trust ourself to go out. But still practicing social distancing and all. Outbreaks in our history had been surpassed so is this one.

[squatz1]

I wouldn't use the term never, but it will take sometime until life is back to what we think of as normal. Most people aren't going to be too excited to be going out in a time like this, even if government restrictions begin to lax, I highly doubt that restaurants are going to fill up, or sports stadiums will fill up, and so on and so forth.

A large amount of offices are going to have people work from home while having people come to the office in shifts. I know this is pretty common right now for companies that need to have their workers in the office (and are deemed essential) and can't just work fully online for some reason.

People are going to want to wait for a vaccine, but they'll probably just settle for not having large events if the spread slows and deaths slow. Obviously older people and those that are at risk are still going to be at home though. Education is a tough one, and I expect for that to be online for at least the first half of the next school year. Going to be hard for schools (and really everyone) when flu season comes and its hard to differentiate who has Corona and who has the flu.

Yes, if the vaccine is already available to the public, I think it will start to return to normal. However, this will take maybe years but OP don't say never. And also, once the potent combination of medicines is identified, we will slowly trust ourself to go out. But still practicing social distancing and all. Outbreaks in our history had been surpassed so is this one.

I didn't include more about the vaccine in my post, which I should've, but I do think it is important for people to note that I do think a large amount of people are going to be sketpical of such a vaccine at least without much research occurring on it.

This isn't me saying that people are going to say that this vaccine is causing autism, because I'm not doing that (yes, some tards will do that, but that's not what I'm on about here) I'm talking about how people are going to have to make informed decisions about if the vaccine is worth it for them - meaning if the benefits of not getting the coronavirus outweigh the potential side effects of this vaccine.

[Spendulus]

I wouldn't use the term never, but it will take sometime until life is back to what we think of as normal. Most people aren't going to be too excited to be going out in a time like this, even if government restrictions begin to lax, I highly doubt that restaurants are going to fill up, or sports stadiums will fill up, and so on and so forth.

A large amount of offices are going to have people work from home while having people come to the office in shifts. I know this is pretty common right now for companies that need to have their workers in the office (and are deemed essential) and can't just work fully online for some reason.

People are going to want to wait for a vaccine, but they'll probably just settle for not having large events if the spread slows and deaths slow. Obviously older people and those that are at risk are still going to be at home though. Education is a tough one, and I expect for that to be online for at least the first half of the next school year. Going to be hard for schools (and really everyone) when flu season comes and its hard to differentiate who has Corona and who has the flu.

Yes, if the vaccine is already available to the public, I think it will start to return to normal. However, this will take maybe years but OP don't say never. And also, once the potent combination of medicines is identified, we will slowly trust ourself to go out. But still practicing social distancing and all. Outbreaks in our history had been surpassed so is this one.

I didn't include more about the vaccine in my post, which I should've, but I do think it is important for people to note that I do think a large amount of people are going to be sketpical of such a vaccine at least without much research occurring on it.

This isn't me saying that people are going to say that this vaccine is causing autism, because I'm not doing that (yes, some tards will do that, but that's not what I'm on about here) I'm talking about how people are going to have to make informed decisions about if the vaccine is worth it for them - meaning if the benefits of not getting the coronavirus outweigh the potential side effects of this vaccine.

As far as COVID, "vaccine" is a media pipe dream. COVID-19 like all these virii mutates rapidly. But every year, they'll have a flu vaccine that's better than no vaccine. That's the way it is.

[franky1]

As far as COVID, "vaccine" is a media pipe dream. COVID-19 like all these virii mutates rapidly. But every year, they'll have a flu vaccine that's better than no vaccine. That's the way it is.

vaccine creators have in the past tried making a vaccine that aims for making the immune system recognise a specific pathogen. EG only SARS bot not MERS.. only MERS but not sars.

but this time vaccine creators are trying to have a vaccine that recognises all the corona family. thus it will take care of all the small seasonal mutations.
(yes some are only trying to aim at the covid19 specific identifiers(facepalm))

what it wont do. is if say someone in africa is infected with both ebola and covid. and they rna mix in a cell combines to create a hybrid. which looks nothing like covid or ebola.

but the chances of that is super slim.
so we can actually have hope of a vaccine that does more than work for one season. and not require re-design/development/trials yearly.

however.. how long the vaccine causes the bodies immune system to stay programmed to identify it. is another situation which is why some people may need yearly vaccine 'boosters' instead of one a decade.

yep once your body is immune. your bodies immune system can forget how to protect it in 3months/6 months/year. or if lucky decades.. this part is the unknown

[squatz1]

I wouldn't use the term never, but it will take sometime until life is back to what we think of as normal. Most people aren't going to be too excited to be going out in a time like this, even if government restrictions begin to lax, I highly doubt that restaurants are going to fill up, or sports stadiums will fill up, and so on and so forth.

A large amount of offices are going to have people work from home while having people come to the office in shifts. I know this is pretty common right now for companies that need to have their workers in the office (and are deemed essential) and can't just work fully online for some reason.

People are going to want to wait for a vaccine, but they'll probably just settle for not having large events if the spread slows and deaths slow. Obviously older people and those that are at risk are still going to be at home though. Education is a tough one, and I expect for that to be online for at least the first half of the next school year. Going to be hard for schools (and really everyone) when flu season comes and its hard to differentiate who has Corona and who has the flu.

Yes, if the vaccine is already available to the public, I think it will start to return to normal. However, this will take maybe years but OP don't say never. And also, once the potent combination of medicines is identified, we will slowly trust ourself to go out. But still practicing social distancing and all. Outbreaks in our history had been surpassed so is this one.

I didn't include more about the vaccine in my post, which I should've, but I do think it is important for people to note that I do think a large amount of people are going to be sketpical of such a vaccine at least without much research occurring on it.

This isn't me saying that people are going to say that this vaccine is causing autism, because I'm not doing that (yes, some tards will do that, but that's not what I'm on about here) I'm talking about how people are going to have to make informed decisions about if the vaccine is worth it for them - meaning if the benefits of not getting the coronavirus outweigh the potential side effects of this vaccine.

As far as COVID, "vaccine" is a media pipe dream. COVID-19 like all these virii mutates rapidly. But every year, they'll have a flu vaccine that's better than no vaccine. That's the way it is.

Ugh, dont even remind me of the flu vaccine. Had it this year for the first time in awhile and still got the flu, pretty sure I'm just on a cycle of getting the flu every few years - regardless of a vaccine or not.

I know the vaccine does help to make it milder, but shit no one could convince me that the flu I experienced this year was milder. Actually -- I should get the Coronavirus antibody test to see if I had it, would be nice to know.

[franky1]

an unknown new virus does not give you a runny nose because it doesnt trigger the immune response as soon as you inhale the pathogen. because your body doesnt know its bad.
you usually only respond once its started doing damage in the cells of your lungs.(dry cough>fever>breathing issues)
a vaccine helps your body respond sooner and excrete it faster before it does damage(pneumonia). so having a runny nose is a good sign your immune response is triggered

if you skipped the runny nose and went to the cough>fever then your body hasnt got good immune response.. either because what you had was new virus or your body is immuno compromised

hopefully people do get runny nose symptoms in the next season oc covid if they had it before or get a vaccine.
what people dont want is for it to go unnoticed and only start feeling it once it hit the lungs and already multiplying.
people dont want it to get to the pneumonia stage next year

its better to have a runny nose and excrete it before it gets to the lungs.

[BADecker]

The instant you cut your finger, your body is already sending immune response cells to the cut to fight off anything that might be there to fight.

The instant your body senses a new pathogen, it is already sending immune cells to fight the pathogen even though it doesn't know if it has seen this pathogen before.

A vaccine only mixes your immune system up so that it can't do a proper job of determining what the pathogen is. The vaccine does this by sticking all kinds of foreign animal cells and human fetus cells into your body, so that your immune system goes into panic mode, and essentially destroys its own strength to fight the new pathogen.


If the new pathogen isn't of the kind that causes an immune reaction of a runny nose, hopefully you won't display a runny nose. If you do, it's because your immune system has been compromised. Go straight to the kind of immune response that fits the particular pathogen.


If people get a runny nose, it's simply because they got a cold... the thing that Coronavirus is generally. It's impossible to get Covid-19 without having thousands of kinds of other Coronaviruses present, like those that produce coughs, runny noses, fever, etc.

[franky1]

oh badecker has no clue. .. maybe he should stick to being dumb in the 911 topic.

[Spendulus]

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Ugh, dont even remind me of the flu vaccine. Had it this year for the first time in awhile and still got the flu, pretty sure I'm just on a cycle of getting the flu every few years - regardless of a vaccine or not.

I know the vaccine does help to make it milder, but shit no one could convince me that the flu I experienced this year was milder. Actually -- I should get the Coronavirus antibody test to see if I had it, would be nice to know.

If you already had it, then you could stop worrying about getting it.

[Yourhomeboy]

Time flies, changes, and things cannot be the same. I grew up to not see those events OP listed above as a prevail edge but now I can see that clubbing and meetings are things to appreciate. Took them for granted but it is now a feeling to see a crowd of people reciting a song at the same time dancing. Those feelings are gone and I won't say forever because nothing will last forever not even the social distancing. Here in Africa people are stubborn and can't be controlled like people in the first world. Most of these activities have been banned but still, go on daily. I am saying this so that you will know that they are a high possibility that life will still get back to normal.

[Naida_BR]

There was so much consuming behaviors from people lately and I think that coronavirus came to adjust them to a new normal situation.
Clubbing is not a normal behavior it i s a waste of time and a waste of money.
It is good that we are keeping clubs close so that people will be focused on more important things.