The deep state and Obamagate

[DireWolfM14]

I've said it before, and I'm going to keep saying it;  The Obama administration will go down in history as the most corrupt, anti-American, unprincipled, most detrimental administration in US history.  Under Obama, the the ATF blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the DOJ blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the State Department blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  

Under Obama, the FBI became his personal bodyguards, secret police, and "fixers."  They covered up the administration's transgressions, and framed Obama's political opponents.  They even tried to frame the incoming President Elect with a known fraudulent document.  Up until now, we've been lead to believe that the FBI was acting on their own, the White House was unaware of their actions.  We now know that to be yet another lie, to hide the extent of Obama's fraud on the American people.

I know there are bigger fish to fry today, with Corona Virus and the Shutdown Economy, and Trump refusing to wear a N95 mask.  So the media will focus on those important things, and allow the undermining of our constitution to slip the back pages.  Where's the outrage?  Where're the calls for justice?  In fact, I find the lack of outrage as outrageous, but far less surprising.  The media has been hiding the transgressions of liberals, and fabricating transgressions to pin on conservatives for decades now.  The media's complicity in the corruption of our federal government is nothing short of sinister.  They are attempting to create an elitist, upper class of citizen based on political affiliation and marketability.

But I have high hopes.  I believe in this great experiment.  I believe that someday justice will be served, and our great country will be stronger for it.

Most of us "freethinkers" already recognized the facade the Noble Statesman Obama conjured, and recognized the slick orator as a fraud, a scoundrel, and a carpetbagger.  And now finally the media is starting to slowly acknowledge the hypocrisy of his administration.  They will, of course continue to hide their own culpability...  But only if we let them.

What will be the undoing of Obummer's legacy?  Where the Fast and Furious and Benghazi fiascoes failed, what the obvious lies about Trump and Russia were unable to expose, General Micheal Flynn will succeed.  Ironic beyond belief; the man Obama tried to destroy for having the gall to question his actions, will be the man that undoes his unblemished legacy.

Here's a great article that exposes the rampant hypocrisy and blatant lies of the Obama administration, and their coordinated attack on Flynn:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/dont-shrug-at-obamas-michael-flynn-scandal/

[Jet Cash]

Why are you picking on Obama. He is just one of a succession of puppets manipulated by the Eton/Oxford elite in the modern British Empire. Obama was of British Commonwealth extraction, and Clinton was an Oxford scholar, and there are many others that are involved in the current Anglophone empire. You can track it back to Cecil Rhodes, and even further if you start to look at the Knights Templar. It's administered through the City of London, and it is obviously in control of Westminster, the EU and Washington, as well as many other countries that have become its debt slaves.

[DireWolfM14]

Why are you picking on Obama. He is just one of a succession of puppets manipulated by the Eton/Oxford elite in the modern British Empire. Obama was of British Commonwealth extraction, and Clinton was an Oxford scholar, and there are many others that are involved in the current Anglophone empire. You can track it back to Cecil Rhodes, and even further if you start to look at the Knights Templar. It's administered through the City of London, and it is obviously in control of Westminster, the EU and Washington, as well as many other countries that have become its debt slaves.

I'm less likely to believe in these far-reaching conspiracies, and more likely to put the blame solely on the people with the most to gain.  Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  The common theme of Obummer's actions seem to indicate his goal was to obtain absolute power.

[TECSHARE]

Yeah who ever heard of criminal organizations right? Why would an international mafia want to control the most powerful nation on Earth?

Another mistake you made is assuming this coronavirus situation is unrelated to the attempted coup under the Obama administration. Stop for a second and count how many of his goals this event gives them an excuse to acheive under the pretense of emergency. Just be careful what you say, or you might lose your special boy status.

[madnessteat]

Yeah who ever heard of criminal organizations right? Why would an international mafia want to control the most powerful nation on Earth? ~

As I understand it, the international mafia controls the whole world and programs all of humanity through media. Many people still do not believe in all this and continue to defend the system that programmed them for the right behavior.

[DireWolfM14]

Yeah who ever heard of criminal organizations right? Why would an international mafia want to control the most powerful nation on Earth?

Another mistake you made is assuming this coronavirus situation is unrelated to the attempted coup under the Obama administration. Stop for a second and count how many of his goals this event gives them an excuse to acheive under the pretense of emergency. Just be careful what you say, or you might lose your special boy status.

Your foolishness never ceases to amaze me.   The existence of organized crime does not mean that all crimes are organized.  The existence of conspiracies does not mean all piracy is a coordinated effort.  The existence of fatty tissue between your ears does not mean you have a brain.

[BADecker]

More than likely, the Obama administration set up the Covid-19 plan long ago, as a hidden safety valve to take down Trump or any other Republican president.

If the economy fails due to Coronavirus, Trump will get blamed... even though it is the fault of people who believe their fake-news-media.

[Spendulus]

I've said it before, and I'm going to keep saying it;  The Obama administration will go down in history as the most corrupt, anti-American, unprincipled, most detrimental administration in US history.  Under Obama, the the ATF blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the DOJ blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the State Department blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  

Under Obama, the FBI became his personal bodyguards, secret police, and "fixers."  They covered up the administration's transgressions, and framed Obama's political opponents.  They even tried to frame the incoming President Elect with a known fraudulent document.  Up until now, we've been lead to believe that the FBI was acting on their own, the White House was unaware of their actions.  We now know that to be yet another lie, to hide the extent of Obama's fraud on the American people.

I know there are bigger fish to fry today, with Corona Virus and the Shutdown Economy, and Trump refusing to wear a N95 mask.  So the media will focus on those important things, and allow the undermining of our constitution to slip the back pages.  Where's the outrage?  Where're the calls for justice?  In fact, I find the lack of outrage as outrageous, but far less surprising.  The media has been hiding the transgressions of liberals, and fabricating transgressions to pin on conservatives for decades now.  The media's complicity in the corruption of our federal government is nothing short of sinister.  They are attempting to create an elitist, upper class of citizen based on political affiliation and marketability.

But I have high hopes.  I believe in this great experiment.  I believe that someday justice will be served, and our great country will be stronger for it.

Most of us "freethinkers" already recognized the facade the Noble Statesman Obama conjured, and recognized the slick orator as a fraud, a scoundrel, and a carpetbagger.  And now finally the media is starting to slowly acknowledge the hypocrisy of his administration.  They will, of course continue to hide their own culpability...  But only if we let them.

What will be the undoing of Obummer's legacy?  Where the Fast and Furious and Benghazi fiascoes failed, what the obvious lies about Trump and Russia were unable to expose, General Micheal Flynn will succeed.  Ironic beyond belief; the man Obama tried to destroy for having the gall to question his actions, will be the man that undoes his unblemished legacy.

Here's a great article that exposes the rampant hypocrisy and blatant lies of the Obama administration, and their coordinated attack on Flynn:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/dont-shrug-at-obamas-michael-flynn-scandal/

The most effective way for the actual conspirators to squash the truth would be for them to shower so many bunko conspiracy theories around it that it was effectively buried. With a noise-to-signal ratio high enough, a post that made sense would be effectively buried.

A good example is this post and this thread.

[TECSHARE]

Yeah who ever heard of criminal organizations right? Why would an international mafia want to control the most powerful nation on Earth?

Another mistake you made is assuming this coronavirus situation is unrelated to the attempted coup under the Obama administration. Stop for a second and count how many of his goals this event gives them an excuse to acheive under the pretense of emergency. Just be careful what you say, or you might lose your special boy status.

Your foolishness never ceases to amaze me.   The existence of organized crime does not mean that all crimes are organized.  The existence of conspiracies does not mean all piracy is a coordinated effort.  The existence of fatty tissue between your ears does not mean you have a brain.

I don't remember making the claim "all crimes are organized", but you felt like using this strawman anyway. Back to the actual premise, if you think this whole thing was some how done without coordination, it is not me who is the fool, but you who insist on maintaining your naivete if you believe such an all encompassing effort could be done without organization. Feel free to make some more ad hominem attacks in lieu of presenting a counter argument though if you like, and enjoy your willful ignorance special boy.

[BADecker]

^^^ Spendulous does it all the time with reference to 9/11.     

[Spendulus]

I've said it before, and I'm going to keep saying it;  The Obama administration will go down in history as the most corrupt, anti-American, unprincipled, most detrimental administration in US history.  Under Obama, the the ATF blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the DOJ blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the State Department blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  

Under Obama, the FBI became his personal bodyguards, secret police, and "fixers."  They covered up the administration's transgressions, and framed Obama's political opponents.  They even tried to frame the incoming President Elect with a known fraudulent document.  Up until now, we've been lead to believe that the FBI was acting on their own, the White House was una....

I agree with these basic assertion. Tt should be known and understood that this is at the root of a large number of secondary and tertiary problems.

This is what you get when someone tries to export "the Chicago WAY" to Washington DC.

[DireWolfM14]

The most effective way for the actual conspirators to squash the truth would be for them to shower so many bunko conspiracy theories around it that it was effectively buried. With a noise-to-signal ratio high enough, a post that made sense would be effectively buried.

A good example is this post and this thread.

This is a great point.  The ignorance displayed in this thread is astounding, really.  Even those who are likely to agree with the premise of my post are rabidly spewing noise that drowns the message.  Digging for conspiracy theories to make this seem bigger than it is can only serve to make it seem like it's not a big deal when those conspiracies are debunked. 

[TECSHARE]

The most effective way for the actual conspirators to squash the truth would be for them to shower so many bunko conspiracy theories around it that it was effectively buried. With a noise-to-signal ratio high enough, a post that made sense would be effectively buried.

A good example is this post and this thread.

This is a great point.  The ignorance displayed in this thread is astounding, really.  Even those who are likely to agree with the premise of my post are rabidly spewing noise that drowns the message.  Digging for conspiracy theories to make this seem bigger than it is can only serve to make it seem like it's not a big deal when those conspiracies are debunked.  

Lets put aside for a moment that both of you mooks are literally claiming that there was a conspiracy here under the Obama administration as you cry cry cry about "conspiracy theorists". Lets also put aside the fact that anyone who made these claims you are purporting was called a conspiracy theorist during this whole process, and still even now. Lets also put aside the fact that you Direpup have been rather quiet about this whole situation until there has been enough of a popular outcry for you to grow the nuts to make the claim in public now that it is convenient to speak out.

This is always the process, a bunch of ignorant people crying perpetually "CONSPIRACY THEORY! CONSPIRACY THEORY!". Then the facts slowly leak out and that theory becomes popularly known as fact, and suddenly everyone who needed permission to have thoughts of their own now proclaims they knew it all along as they continue to dismiss those that were calling it out from the start. The fact that the country (and the world) is on total lock down while they implode the economy, conveniently serving as an excuse to keep all the plebeians in line while they burn everything down is not a coincidence. This has been the plan for a long time, the virus is just the pretext to keep the masses from spending their free time building gallows. The people who perpetrated all of this are the same ones who are intentionally imploding the nation to make it ripe for looting and stripping to the bone. This is not a new formula regardless of your ignorance of the fact.

[BADecker]

Now we will get some answers! Who knows? We might even find who did the 9/11 inside job.


"No More Mr.Nice Guy" - Trump Urges Senate To Call Obama To Testify

And President Trump clearly won't let it go (and why should he after three years of utter bullshit)...

Donald J. Trump
?@realDonaldTrump

If I were a Senator or Congressman, the first person I would call to testify about the biggest political crime and scandal in the history of the USA, by FAR, is former President Obama. He knew EVERYTHING. Do it @LindseyGrahamSC, just do it. No more Mr. Nice Guy. No more talk!

We won't be holding our collective breaths however, but it would be deliciously ironic if the president who claimed "no scandals" during his presidency, was brought down after leaving office by the biggest scandal in US history.

[DireWolfM14]

~

I see, so when you hear hoof beats you think it must be brainwashed zebra-minions of ZOG, and anyone who questions that logic is not a patriot.  Got it.  

[Spendulus]

The most effective way for the actual conspirators to squash the truth would be for them to shower so many bunko conspiracy theories around it that it was effectively buried. With a noise-to-signal ratio high enough, a post that made sense would be effectively buried.

A good example is this post and this thread.

This is a great point.  The ignorance displayed in this thread is astounding, really.  Even those who are likely to agree with the premise of my post are rabidly spewing noise that drowns the message.  Digging for conspiracy theories to make this seem bigger than it is can only serve to make it seem like it's not a big deal when those conspiracies are debunked. 

Lets put aside for a moment that both of you mooks are literally claiming that there was a conspiracy here under the Obama administration as you cry cry cry about "conspiracy theorists". Lets also put aside the fact that anyone who made these claims you are purporting was called a conspiracy theorist during this whole process, and still even now. Lets also put aside the fact that you Direpup have been rather quiet about this whole situation until there has been enough of a popular outcry for you to grow the nuts to make the claim in public now that it is convenient to speak out.
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Just so my point is not misunderstood, it is a very general comment about Internet forums. I will put the issue in alternative form. Suppose that people and opinions you really dislike or have a commercial interest in subverting posts to a forum on Huffington Post. You want to destroy the ideas and communications from that forum. There are two options (1) argue the ideas on that forum (2) post nonsense and various garbage ideas

(2) effectively destroys the forum while (1) only brings the conflict between the ideas to the forefront.

(2) when the nonsense reaches a critical level, like 60-90%, people tune the entire forum out.

[TECSHARE]

I see, so when you hear hoof beats you think it must be brainwashed zebra-minions of ZOG, and anyone who questions that logic is not a patriot.  Got it.

Ah, and there we go. Too frustrated and unable to make an argument, you start insinuating I am a racist, exactly like leftists do. Thanks for demonstrating you are a pretender.

Just so my point is not misunderstood, it is a very general comment about Internet forums. I will put the issue in alternative form. Suppose that people and opinions you really dislike or have a commercial interest in subverting posts to a forum on Huffington Post. You want to destroy the ideas and communications from that forum. There are two options (1) argue the ideas on that forum (2) post nonsense and various garbage ideas

(2) effectively destroys the forum while (1) only brings the conflict between the ideas to the forefront.

(2) when the nonsense reaches a critical level, like 60-90%, people tune the entire forum out.

I am well aware of narrative management techniques, I see you use them all the time. You tend to prefer topic sliding when it suits you. As far as arguing nonsense, I have at least one 13 page long thread on the topic going into every detail, but yeah, lets pretend I am here to distract because you are too ignorant to realize what we are experiencing now is a result of international organized crime.

[Spendulus]

.... lets pretend I am here to distract because you are too ignorant to realize what we are experiencing now is a result of international organized crime.

I will have to differ strongly, as you are too ignorant to realize what we are experiencing now is a result of international organized slime.

Crime you can shoot the perps. Slime?

[DireWolfM14]

Too frustrated and unable to make an argument, you start insinuating I am a racist, exactly like leftists do.

I wasn't calling you a racist, you flaccid tool.  I know you're not a racist, which is why I referenced the most preposterous conspiracy theory I could think of; to illustrate my point of how preposterous it is to constantly jump to conspiracy conclusions.  Don't believe everything you think.

[TECSHARE]

Too frustrated and unable to make an argument, you start insinuating I am a racist, exactly like leftists do.

I wasn't calling you a racist, you flaccid tool.  I know you're not a racist, which is why I referenced the most preposterous conspiracy theory I could think of; to illustrate my point of how preposterous it is to constantly jump to conspiracy conclusions.  Don't believe everything you think.

Your reading comprehension is poor. No, I didn't say you called me a racist. You insinuated I was a racist by making derogatory references to mixed racial people and theories popular in white supremacist circles and claiming equivalence with what I am saying.

I am not "instantly jumping to" anything. I am far more informed on the subject than either of you are, which is why you need to minimize what I am saying with ad hominem attacks, straw man arguments, and drawing equivalences with supremacist groups in lieu of an argument.

After all, the idea of international mafias existing certainly isn't a documented fact right? Also certainly no one wants to destroy the USA now do they? PREPOSTEROUS!