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Hi guys, first of all, I hope everyone is doing well. The reason why I created this thread is to discuss other possible benefits of a signature campaign that's sometimes missed or not talked publicly. So, first of all, this is my question: Have signature campaigns helped you in improving your SEO conditions? When someone runs signature campaign here, surely website gets backlinks from different threads from bitcointalk that depends on how much posts users have and etc. So when you started a signature campaign, what was your experience in it? 1. Did it improve your SEO? 2. If yes, then in what time frame? 3. How much influence it had on long term SEO ranks? 4. What happened when you stopped signature campaign? 5. Did your positions went down or did you still keep it?
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I can't answer to those questions due to I never had an SEO monitoring related stuff on particular website/services before here in bitcointalk. But one thing for sure for #1 is a no.
Though signature campaigns helps a lot to gain more traffic to the website, leads, good for branding but I don't think establishing domain and page authority counts (only if it matters to them)
So once the signature stops, there's no way users here can click links redirect to the website, but the brand will be remembered and people keep visiting the site base/depends the impact of the campaign.
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I never run a signature campaign before but I have a website that I put on my signature while posting here on the forum a few years ago. There's a difference in not wearing the website in my signature based on my stats on my search console. As I noticed I get more impression on the Google search every time I wear my website.
So Based on my own experience in SEO the Signature campaign will help a lot to improve your stats on Ahrefs, Moz, majestic, or any backlinks tools. It can increase your domain authority and get more visibility. Since this forum is a "do-follow" link it will help your website to rank up fast on Google if your website is related to Bitcoin.
If you talking about the timeframe of the signature campaign as what I said above if the website is wearing on my signature there is a little percentage drop on my impression according to the search console webmaster tool. or If you talking about what time does SEO will affect well, it's not instant if you talking about rankings on Google search(SERP) it takes time before you get to the top spot(around 3 to 6 months up except for Aged domain) if the "keyword" is competitive except for brand names.
SEO will stay for the long term if your links are alive and not deleted.
If you stop the signature campaign well, it only drops your visibility(Drop impressions) but your site stats will stay remain.
It will stay at the top position depends on how your website competitive. If you have many competitors I'm sure they are also doing some SEO to take your position down and steal your position. That's why if you keep running a campaign it will hard for them to take down your website on the SERP.
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I can't answer to those questions due to I never had an SEO monitoring related stuff on particular website/services before here in bitcointalk. But one thing for sure for #1 is a no.
I could almost guarantee that it does. Links on Bitcointalk are "dofollow" links(like what BitMaxz said) hence the links from the signature area do help a lot in terms of domain authority as it would count as a backlink. And knowing that Bitcointalk ranks really high in the Bitcoin niche, this does help quite significantly. Source: not an expert per se, but I know a good amount of SEO from handling multiple blogs/websites. Just to add, I don't think the signature campaign is 100% for better SEO, but definitely also for brand awareness. Putting ChipMixer's case as an example, since quite reputable members carry the ChipMixer badge, chances are that people will look at ChipMixer as a great and reputable service. As for questions 2-3, while it does affect SEO in a positive matter like I said earlier, it takes a while to feel the effects. Based on my experience, it's going to take a good amount of months before you feel the difference from having a good backlink.
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I could almost guarantee that it does. Links on Bitcointalk are "dofollow" links(like what BitMaxz said) hence the links from the signature area do help a lot in terms of domain authority as it would count as a backlink. And knowing that Bitcointalk ranks really high in the Bitcoin niche, this does help quite significantly.
Yeah, it could but temporarily, soon as google detect too many backlinks from the forum especially those links without anchor text like the bbcode with links, google will labeled it as spam and it would affect the site's SEO. But on the other hand, it could mean lot to those banklink stat/tools such mentioned by BitMaxz.
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May 16, 2020, 07:28:29 AM |
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Yeah, it could but temporarily, soon as google detect too many backlinks from the forum especially those links without anchor text like the bbcode with links, google will labeled it as spam and it would affect the site's SEO. But on the other hand, it could mean lot to those banklink stat/tools such mentioned by BitMaxz.
Yes, probably, I'm really not sure as I haven't dug deep into how good/bad backlinks are from forums, but I don't think there will be any damage. Colossal websites and news sites like Forbes/Business Insider/Nytimes/CNBC/etc also has a crap ton of links but backlinks from these sites are still very very highly sought after and very expensive. One thing's for sure though, backlinks from Bitcointalk signatures is a net positive for the campaigns.
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May 16, 2020, 12:39:34 PM |
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I think we can also factor in what are the "keywords"? This is important if you run a SEO campaign as opposed to signature campaigns. Online gambling sought after keywords are very competitive as well, terms line "bitcoin online dice game". So if a website let's say drop their signature campaign, it will definitely have a net effect, however, if they continue and do "SEO" campaign with targeted keywords they can still remain in page 1 or page 2 in Google search.
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Generally speaking, does Google cares about backlinks and Pagerank any longer? I don't think so. Backlinks were extensively used in Google's former algorithm - Pagerank to determine the importance and quality of webpage. But currently just having backlinks from high-traffic websites won't guarantee first page Google listing. In fact, there is higher chance that your article on such high-traffic websites will appear before your actual site. For example: ANN Thread on Bitcointalk appearing before home page of your website.
I am not active in SEO niche from last 2-3 years so I don't have any idea if having link on Bitcointalk will help in Google Search but I think it will if your website is purely bitcoin related because Bitcointalk links have high domain authority on Google in Bitcoin niche.
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Generally speaking, does Google cares about backlinks and Pagerank any longer? I don't think so.
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I just started making websites/blogs and been doing SEO since 3 years ago(and taking it really seriously 2 years ago), and based on experience I can guarantee that relevant backlinks are still one of the most important factors of getting your links ranked higher on Google. But of course, having good backlinks doesn't guarantee page rankings, but it helps A LOT. Also, I'm definitely not saying that it's impossible to rank without backlinks though, as it's definitely possible with long-tail keywords and with low-competition keywords in general. In fact, there is higher chance that your article on such high-traffic websites will appear before your actual site. For example: ANN Thread on Bitcointalk appearing before home page of your website.
If your blog post is new, then yes. But with enough on-page SEO, you could definitely beat forum posts and posts from sites like Reddit and Quora as these things mostly lack on-page SEO. But then again, no guarantees. If anything, if a certain mid-high traffic keyword has a forum thread at the top, I see that as a jackpot.
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I can't answer to those questions due to I never had an SEO monitoring related stuff on particular website/services before here in bitcointalk. But one thing for sure for #1 is a no.
I could almost guarantee that it does. Links on Bitcointalk are "dofollow" links(like what BitMaxz said) hence the links from the signature area do help a lot in terms of domain authority as it would count as a backlink. And knowing that Bitcointalk ranks really high in the Bitcoin niche, this does help quite significantly. Source: not an expert per se, but I know a good amount of SEO from handling multiple blogs/websites. I agree 100% with this. I can almost guarantee it does. Google reads all signatures and dofollow links. Those crawlers and scrapping tools will certainly identify the links from a lot of posts to your website from a domain with high authority (bitcointalk.org). Additionally, if you are hiring reputable members, many users will get curious and click your links.
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I've never tried using links on signature -- or I did initially but never tracked or it never brought much value -- but I did have a couple of threads directing to a small personal website I have -- name in the title and a few links on the first page. They're quite active threads in gambling and get a good amount of discussion but I don't really get good traffic from there from what basic analytics I have.
Thanks for the question though. I think I probably should update those links to tracking links and properly see the value of that. My guess is, not really?
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May 17, 2020, 07:27:28 PM |
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I am wearing blackjack.fun signature for two weeks and today I decided to try and search some of their backlinks, just for btctalk seo purposes and surprisingly, according to ahrefs, my post is N1 among their top 100 backlinks. Seems two week was enough (maybe it happened a little bit earlier) to index some links from signatures. My N1 backlink has 86 DR and 35 UR. You can see this yourself down below on image: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0VZqi66.jpg&t=665&c=pRcD5pDCJFSffA) Later I'll analyze old signature campaigns that I was wearing and will check in overall how many backlinks were indexed from bitcointalk and what kind of authority each of them has.
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Generally speaking, does Google cares about backlinks and Pagerank any longer? I don't think so. Backlinks were extensively used in Google's former algorithm - Pagerank to determine the importance and quality of webpage. But currently just having backlinks from high-traffic websites won't guarantee first page Google listing. In fact, there is higher chance that your article on such high-traffic websites will appear before your actual site. For example: ANN Thread on Bitcointalk appearing before home page of your website.
I am not active in SEO niche from last 2-3 years so I don't have any idea if having link on Bitcointalk will help in Google Search but I think it will if your website is purely bitcoin related because Bitcointalk links have high domain authority on Google in Bitcoin niche.
it has long been speculated that backlinks are not important for SEO and website authority, reality speaks quite differently. Also, the website link in the profile page also affects backlinks function, especially if user post in the first page of thread with more views. In last year backlink business growing and there is a great demand, I believe not because of a whim.
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I guess we will wait for the opinion of those who are running a signature campaign in the forum.
Though we can't expect they will give an exact answer due to confidentiality reason but let's just assume that once the campaign is long active, they are getting benefits on it. The forum has millions of members, so even if 10% of the forum click the signature and sign up or whatsoever, it will already introduce to them, and I think running a campaign is not expensive and helpful to the project who are being promoted though indirectly promoted.
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Only owners of websites know answers to your questions. Probably even managers of campaigns don't know this information. But no doubt that campaigns have positive impact, otherwise they wouldn't make it. I'm not big expert in SEO, but from what I know, campaigns help to improve it. But I doubt that it have significant effect on SEO rankings. There is no way how signature campaign can move website into high place in Google search results.
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I find it wrong to participate to forums discussions for the purpose to have a signature displayed and to get some SEO benefits. Let me just say that one needs just one link from any domain, not many. So, participation to forums discussions is about quality, not quantity. Bitcointalk.org itself helps one to boost their SEO a bit, but I think that this bonus that the forums provides to its members should not be abused. Otherwise either Search Engines would stop counting those links or the forum would change its policies.
Other than that I'm a fan of the organic SEO, based on the people's appreciation to certain website and its services.
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May 22, 2020, 10:35:36 PM |
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With May 2020 Google update Backlink is no more important for ranking on Google search. Hence you can skip the SEO part. Those who depend on Google for traffic might have experienced a severe decline in traffic after this update.
A lot of news and cryptocurrency blogs have been complaining about this issue. It is very hard now days to generate organic traffic from Google. No matter how good is your content or how good are your social signal one bad move and everything goes down.
The only benefit of having quality backlink is to generate referral traffic, which I am sure everyone must be enjoying on their websites through Bitcointalk.
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May 23, 2020, 04:10:21 PM |
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Only owners of websites know answers to your questions. Probably even managers of campaigns don't know this information.
Without doubt, they know answer and are probably monitoring search engine rankings of their website but who knows, maybe some signature campaign managers are carrying this duty during campaign management and who knows, maybe some of them are willing to share this information with us? ~snip~
There is no way how signature campaign can move website into high place in Google search results.
I guess that's a typo? Well managed signature campaigns raise brand awareness in bitcoin community, thus resulting in increased number of visitors on your website. Along with increased visitors from signature ads, your website's links are indexed with anchor texts on bitcointalk and this results in increased number of backlinks where some of them may be links with high URL ratings. Number of backlinks depends on how many participants you have in your campaign and how many posts they have. With May 2020 Google update Backlink is no more important for ranking on Google search.
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Idk if I missed something but where did you get that info? I highly doubt backlinks aren't that important for ranking. Without page and url authorities google can't analyze content alone and do verdict whether this info is more relevant or not.
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There is no way how signature campaign can move website into high place in Google search results.
I guess that's a typo? Well managed signature campaigns raise brand awareness in bitcoin community, thus resulting in increased number of visitors on your website. Along with increased visitors from signature ads, your website's links are indexed with anchor texts on bitcointalk and this results in increased number of backlinks where some of them may be links with high URL ratings. Number of backlinks depends on how many participants you have in your campaign and how many posts they have. Not, it's not typo, but probably I had to express myself in different words. Most of signature campaigns nowadays advertise gambling websites and this market is very competetive. So, if someone launch new gambling website and start signature campaign, it won't help them to reach first places of search results. Offcourse, it may increase their positions, but not very significant. To reach better results, more complex PR campaign is needed - use AdWords, buy ad slots on specific websites, press releases on news media, communication on social networks. Sponsorship deals like Sportsbet.io and Watford have probably is big factor too. You may try to enter some keywords into Google search like "Bitcoin gambling", Bitcoin sportsbook" and check results. These results will be a bit different for every user because of location. But at least for me, I couldn't say that having signature campaign guarantee good position in search result. I see plenty of websites which never had or don't have sig. campaign on Bitcointalk and they are shown above these services who have it now.
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May 24, 2020, 07:24:48 PM |
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With May 2020 Google update Backlink is no more important for ranking on Google search.
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Idk if I missed something but where did you get that info? I highly doubt backlinks aren't that important for ranking. Without page and url authorities google can't analyze content alone and do verdict whether this info is more relevant or not. Yes, google does the May Core Update, but there's nothing/directly mentioned/analyzed about the backlinks isn't no more important for ranking in google search, but there's a catch, most websites suffer lost of organic traffic even mine days after the update, and mostly those websites that has spammy backlinks.
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