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May 21, 2020, 06:41:00 AM
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A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.


- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!

You broke the rule too. You entered the casino, while your government ordered you not to do so. How are you so different from "that" person? "That" person and the others can also claim that they just wanted to know what was happening inside.
Instead of going inside, you could have just informed the authorities. They would have taken the appropriate steps. You just risked yourself entering the casino.
Let me restate what OP said, " last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time"

I never saw any word "entered". Yes, he passed that time but he doesn't entered in casino. Please read carefully the verb used so that, you won't misinterpreted. Just a friendly advise.  Smiley

Great explanation so maybe he understand the word since its so different, It can create confusion if the reader didn't read it carefully that's why someone miss judge the situation.



Anyways @OP First you need to know if the Casino's got a clearance to operate given by government since if they comply on the government orders for sure there's no any problem with that, Also for sure the casino in your placed follow the protocol since they wear mask and gloves as you said it.

But if you find any illegalities which can contribute badly to the current situation better to report it to proper authority so that they can do a counter action regarding on this thing. lock downs will never ends if there's hard headed persons will not follow and disobey the law.

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Last edit: May 21, 2020, 10:36:46 AM by YOSHIE
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You broke the rule too. You entered the casino,
It looks like you should check my topic replies a bit with questions similar to yours: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249137.60

This is where people can judge about you that you are only chasing weekly posts, without investigating replies to the contents of the topic questions, Lol.

Very quickly you say I "broke the rules" you do not know the point of the problem, immediately said, you are strange.
For the future, check the conversation of others, you just post and draw conclusions.

don't jump right in... and spray, ridiculous.



And here are the results that have been completed at this time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249137.msg54467837#msg54467837

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May 21, 2020, 10:15:41 AM
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I live in the Republic of Belarus. We have everything open. You can go to any bars and casinos. Of course, the attendance of these institutions has fallen significantly because people themselves do not want to take risks. However, we do not have a legal ban on the operation of these places.

We didn't even stop the football championship! I think many people know this because it has become popular in the world.
Slutsk forward!

Maybe that's the reason why you have high infection cases as you have a lot of establishments open. It is good that people are already doing their own precautions by not going to crowded places. I hope your government realized how dangerous it is to continue that kind of setting.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/

I'm surprised that your government is not implementing strict measures when they should I check the status of COVID 10 in your country and your country has a very high infections although the number of death is very low and recovery is good, could be much better if the government has implemented a lock down

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/

I'm a little familiar with the statistics on those who got sick and died during seasonal epidemics of common flu. The numbers are almost identical. Perhaps this is why our President did not order the use of restrictive measures. This is why casinos and other establishments operate and people are free to make decisions about isolation themselves.
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May 21, 2020, 10:27:43 AM
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There are still some people who just ignore the rules of ou government, they don't know the risk of going outside just to gamble. In casino gambling, they will tend to play next in line even though they are wearing gloves and mask it is still dangerous, they are still prone to spreading the virus to each other. I don't know why those gambler doing such things like that, is that what gamble addict does?

That is why I limit myself from gambling, I don't want to be an addict on it someday so I don't play often, I just play whenever I am with my friends.
I did and mostly the most common one is cockfighting and most traditional gambling since there aren't any land-based casinos here. Even if there are restrictions to it those gamblers gonna break rules just to get what they really wanted but I think with strict restrictions and high charges who breaks it makes them lie low and conducting regular operations to arrest them.
Gambler doesn't mind the consequences of what they are doing, they know the possibility of having a risk of gambling and the possibility of being arrested when they had caught by authorities but they don't mind it.
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May 21, 2020, 10:47:47 AM
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I did and mostly the most common one is cockfighting and most traditional gambling since there aren't any land-based casinos here. Even if there are restrictions to it those gamblers gonna break rules just to get what they really wanted but I think with strict restrictions and high charges who breaks it makes them lie low and conducting regular operations to arrest them.
Gambler doesn't mind the consequences of what they are doing, they know the possibility of having a risk of gambling and the possibility of being arrested when they had caught by authorities but they don't mind it.

Because they know they will not get reported since people are afraid to get into the trouble if they find out that they are the one who reported the illegalities in normal days, things are different when there's a pandemic since I've seen so many illegal gamblers got caught by the authorities and been fine for huge bail.

But if we talk about online well we all know that its hard to track the gamblers so no matter what people who indulge on this will keep playing since they know they are safe playing at home.

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May 21, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
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I'm surprised that your government is not implementing strict measures when they should I check the status of COVID 10 in your country and your country has a very high infections although the number of death is very low and recovery is good, could be much better if the government has implemented a lock down

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules, gambling in my place but not the legal once, most of the people here in my place consider this lockdown or quarantine as a vacation that they can do whatever they want like gambling in anytime they please though. It is also not allowed by the government they can still find ways on how they can gamble without being caught just to reduce the boredom and mingle with friends. These people don't even do any safety measures such as wearing face masks or doing social distancing they just tend to close the area for them not to become visible by the authorities. I know some legal and physical casinos as a friend told me but I never tried dropping by or spend a minute inside for it may only cause problems once we get caught on the spot and inside the casino.









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May 21, 2020, 04:37:40 PM
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Precisely! Gambling activities are ordered to cease operations not on bases pertaining to gambling itself but because gatherings are not allowed. So if people are gathering at anybody's house during these pandemic days, that is not allowed

Can you please post the link to the text of the order in question?

Just in case, I was writing about public gatherings, i.e. not meeting someone in private. Does visiting a grocery store count as a public gathering if there are other people over there? I think it does. Does visiting your grandma count as such? I guess it doesn't. However you may look at it and whatever regulation you may come up with, this is not a public gathering. But if it is not, and gambling, or, more specifically, gambling on private premises, is not prohibited, can you legally and legitimately stop people from enjoying this activity?

If they are gathering for illegal gambling, then they will be prosecuted both on grounds relating to illegal gambling and on the quarantine laws

That's the exact reason why we should distinguish between illegal gambling and gambling made illegal due to the quarantine laws limiting public gatherings

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Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

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May 21, 2020, 10:41:59 PM
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Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.

Also for a person there may be an additional adrenaline rush from gambling where it is currently prohibited. It's like sex in a public place)
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May 21, 2020, 11:18:09 PM
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Local officials on their backs protecting the people behind the underground casinos seem making the casino legit already. And with that nothing will stop the people from going. With the covid that made these people jobless, all the more they are going to try to gamble to make money if they are lucky.

Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.

Also for a person there may be an additional adrenaline rush from gambling where it is currently prohibited. It's like sex in a public place)

Ah I now know the feeling lol It gets exciting to have sex in the public place and I guess it could be worth risking doing it like a dog in heat.




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May 22, 2020, 01:43:26 PM
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There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.
They just want to justify their wrong doings, they are not prevented to gambling if its not illegal in their country, what the government are only doing is for the safety of the people, they want to prevent people from spreading the virus, so gambling is not allowed when it needs physical appearance to a certain place or venue. Maybe it's time they will learn online gambling, maybe hard at the beginning but they'll eventually love it, and its safer, you don't violate a law doing online gambling.


Also for a person there may be an additional adrenaline rush from gambling where it is currently prohibited.
I would understand this.

It's like sex in a public place)

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May 22, 2020, 04:02:13 PM
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Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

^ There is no guarantee that player's wallets in bitcoin casinos are secure for hackers nowadays are more aggressive and wise that they will make impossible things possible just for them to steal anything or everything that has value. It is a good sign that people who previously dismissed the idea of bitcoin are now returning and start to invest again that only shows how steady and stable the bitcoin now, in fact, it can also serve as a good promotion if these people would even testify that once they dumped bitcoin and now they believe or trust in bitcoin was built again. Nevertheless, I really hope that all casinos will use blockchain technology for transparency because of its good cause for it will make more people build their trust in bitcoin as well.
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May 22, 2020, 04:29:57 PM
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Underground casinos have no name and no owner as legal so if there is any dispute then it is impossible to resolve there and also if it not under any regulations we can't get fairness on results as well so people should not gamble at all on such place at any circumstances.If they are unable to control their urge then they can simply gamble online. Roll Eyes
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May 22, 2020, 05:14:01 PM
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Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions

I don't think gamblers belong to this group

You essentially assume that protesting is about violating the established ban or something to that tune. But this is not always the case. If you disagree with a certain law, you can protest in a lot of ways without necessarily breaking it. Such a form of disagreement makes sense only when everyone and his dog and his grandma (read the majority of population) are violating the law together. Then the law is repealed while the ban lifted. However, we are far from that anywhere across the globe, at least as far as the current quarantine is concerned

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May 22, 2020, 08:06:28 PM
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Underground casinos have no name and no owner as legal so if there is any dispute then it is impossible to resolve there and also if it not under any regulations we can't get fairness on results as well so people should not gamble at all on such place at any circumstances.If they are unable to control their urge then they can simply gamble online. Roll Eyes

One of the cons when you do deal up with these illegal places on where you cant be assured if those would be fair or not but somewhat as a gambler you can eventually tell or feel up when somethings goes wrong or isnt right.Pretty sure that there are underground places that do operate now because there would be always a demand specially to those players who do actively go to gambling places and of course you will surely mind of on creating underneath and benefit out on peoples addiction.

Just let them be if they do ignore out and neglect rules amidst on a pandemic situation.Just be sure that they wont regret out neither they would be get caught by the authority or would simply
catch up the virus. Their call!

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May 22, 2020, 09:51:51 PM
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There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.
They just want to justify their wrong doings, they are not prevented to gambling if its not illegal in their country, what the government are only doing is for the safety of the people, they want to prevent people from spreading the virus, so gambling is not allowed when it needs physical appearance to a certain place or venue. Maybe it's time they will learn online gambling, maybe hard at the beginning but they'll eventually love it, and its safer, you don't violate a law doing online gambling.

You probably won't believe it, but not all people want and can use the Internet. Many people simply do not trust online casinos.
There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino. Some people just like to go to the casino with their friends.
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May 22, 2020, 11:32:36 PM
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Many people simply do not trust online casinos.

Casino is pretty much on the dark side of the world and some ( probably most ) country forbid gambling therefore once a site scam there is nothing that you can do about it anymore. Different thing with real casino, if it exist in a country that means there are some law protecting those gambler from being scammed by the casino as well

There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino. Some people just like to go to the casino with their friends.

In fact if you gamble online, no one will be able to know how much have you won compared to going to a real casino However alot more people do enjoy playing in companion in real casino



All aside that, there are tons of people still gamble casually in my country like there is no covid19 in here at all lol

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May 23, 2020, 09:48:08 AM
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There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino

Online casinos are definitely better in this regard

With traditional ones you would openly reveal your earnings to the world as your mug will get caught on camera countless number of times, while your winnings (as well as losses, for that matter) will make it into the casino's books to check for authorities if need be. And I'm not sure you can visit a law-abiding land-based gambling institution without fully disclosing your identity, either. Protecting your privacy and the anonymity of your money when playing online is a breeze, and it is basically for this reason you can kiss your shekels goodbye if an online casino pulls off an exit scam at the end of the day. Let's call it the other five sides of a die

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May 23, 2020, 10:47:14 AM
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A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.


- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!


and the saddest and infuriating part about the local underground casino here in the Philippines(they consist of local people i.e. neighbours etc..) is that there are gamblers who play there that use the cash assistance given by the government to gamble which should have been given to the families who desperately need them. bit only that they don't use proper social distancing or any protection.

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May 23, 2020, 10:55:14 AM
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I think this only happens fo such big persons including some authorities, governments, etc. As we all know some gambling casino are handled by some government so in order for them to still earn money with this pandemic virus they are still open the casino gambling, which is really not a good idea for me, there would be a high of risk spreading on the casino gambling if they are gambling, of course as we all know gambling could be crowded at any time and they are next in line with each other, some would not follow the social distancing because they only want to gamble and don't mind some risk of doing it.
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