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May 18, 2020, 11:28:31 PM
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It is not that weird to play in an empty stadium but if you add noise with the use of speakers then it will be pretty weird. I hate to say this, but i never expected we would see fake reactions but now the broadcasters wanted to add the crowd noise to add the flavor.  I would like to hear the real conversation of the players rather than some fake reactions and with an empty stadium you could clearly hear what the players talk and a good commentary will sort the problem.
Players are used to hear crowd noise all the time in the middle of matches. I don't think they pay attention too much to it, but it's something they'll certainly feel is missing once they play alone, with nobody on the stadium besides the teams.

Think of how it'd be to go and see a FIFA match live and you'd be the only fan there, all the other seats being silent and empty. Would feel very weird, wouldn't it? That noise is specific to these matches Cheesy
The ambiance would really be entirely different when in talks of crowd noise and into these kind of events, players are get used to this kind of noise and when they do play on an empty stadium
then they would really tell the difference.This do adds up some sort of motivation into their plays since they do know that lots of people watching them and to this new normal where
everything would be done remotely then they will surely miss it up and would really need adjustment due to this current situation.

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May 19, 2020, 03:57:04 PM
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I think in this pandemic, we should be familiar with the event that might re-schedule. The event will not have an audience, fans, and there will be no noise as we have seen before. I think that is the way that they should do to prevent the spreading of the virus if the situations are not back to normal again. As long as people can be safe from the virus, I think the event can go on without any noise. At least we can watch the event from our home with our family.

I think that it is temporary to play without spectators. Even if the disease is not vaccinated, treatment methods will be revealed soon. When normalization begins, normalization will begin in sports competitions as in everything. At this point we have reached today, the first steps have already been taken in the name of normalization. We had nice matches in Bundesliga last weekend. I hope we will have a chance to watch more games with June.

Maybe. I really hope that the normalization will begin in many countries so we will see everything will start to be fine. But I think that everything will have a different look than before because of this pandemic. And we will adapt to the current situations so we can still survive in any conditions. I heard that many things would happen in June, and maybe the normalization will start in June too.

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May 19, 2020, 06:38:08 PM
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So I have read this over the last couple of days and wanted to maybe get a discussion going if you think this would make the broadcast more interesting?

I have watched the german Bundesliga over the weekend without fans and it just seems weird... no fans, no crowd noises.
Takes away the atmosphere and makes the game almost seem a bit dull.

Of course the noise would only be in the broadcast and not in an empty stadium.

We can just only see how interesting it is after we can watch some of the games that will be applied by these effects and gestures for the first time.

But for me, I will not have a negative reaction no matter how good or worst the effort They just want to add some things to somehow feel the previous normal.

This is good actually that we can now see some plans for a comeback. Slowly getting into business to save the sports economy.

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May 19, 2020, 08:01:42 PM
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It's yay man. As a fan but as long as you've get to watch the game, that's the most important thing that's taking in action. Crowds and fans, although the tension and cheers that we've got to hear while being there gets intense things have changed because we're in the pandemic.

That's the solution for sporting events and at least we've got to hear those virtual noises made probably from earlier matches recorded. It looks odd and you may not like it but you don't have to like it, just cheer at your homes, think that you are in the crowd while relaxing as you watch.

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May 19, 2020, 08:36:42 PM
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Wait? Is it there actual fans and crowd noise on NFL games? Cheesy I don't follow American football, but at least in NBA there is almost no atmosphere - people just watch games or eat instead of cheering for their team.
I watched some South Korean football league games where they play recorded sounds from fans. It doesn't sounds as bad as I expected, but I don't think it's really needed. Yes, it's weird and difficult to watch football in empty stadiums, when you can hear players and managers talking. But it's current reality and we have to accept that.

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May 19, 2020, 11:00:15 PM
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The plan is honestly good and actually no harm at all if it will be implemented. Well, really expect that kind of new changes at some sports leagues as we are now entering a new normal until the virus is here and freely roaming around the globe. If they can do it, then good.

“It would be different for sure if we had to play the game with no fans,” Cox said. “I think at the same time, we have to understand that health is a priority. And we have to look at our health. If we have to have to play games without fans, it’ll be something to get used to.”

The statement actually makes sense.

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May 20, 2020, 06:28:08 AM
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This idea of virtual fans could be so that the broadcasts could be animated. Because we already know that fans add joy and excitement to sporting events. They are experimenting to see how things turn out is what I believe.

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May 20, 2020, 08:34:04 AM
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I looked at the article "2020 NFL Draft: Virtual fan engagement", which is all about how "virtual fans" can be integrated in the draftings. There are some actions taken which I would love to see during the games, too:

  • "watch-a-long" transmissions of the games in large zoom rooms, so that the emotions of other fans can be heard and seen. We had such a meeting with a lot of fans at the bitcoin halving, was fun to watch.
  • Live feeds via virtual rooms of NFL personalities or even celebrity fans, who additionally comment on the events on the field:

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    The NFL recognized the opportunity to drive virtual fan engagement by supplementing its coverage with live analysis and reaction from celebrity fans and NFL personalities.

    The league is hosting a live draft-a-thon every day for the duration of the draft. The draft-a-thon is broadcast to YouTube and the NFL website in conjunction with the draft, aiming to drive donations for COVID-19 relief efforts in the US.

I am curious whether there will be similar approaches during the live broadcasts of the games. The concept could easily be adopted for other sports (from Formula 1 to football) and improve the experience of the spectators during the games. I have to admit, watching ghost games on TV is much more unexciting than I thought, one is distracted much faster and loses interest much faster, even when the favourite club is playing.


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May 20, 2020, 10:11:19 AM
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The quote in your post sounds abit like the poster wants "artificial reality" for fans(without their consent?). I wonder who the poster wants that to be made for: the players, viewers or both? In my opinion, it'd better to let the viewers (and even players) know that what they are "getting stimulated with" are not real or something, so they don't feel decieved if they find out. Or just get the real things come and safely watch matches, why not?

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May 20, 2020, 10:26:14 AM
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Of course Live fans cannot be covered ,though this is a big help for the online watcher since the game is really boring without cheering from the fans.
This idea of virtual fans could be so that the broadcasts could be animated. Because we already know that fans add joy and excitement to sporting events. They are experimenting to see how things turn out is what I believe.
because they have no choice but to add noise or else there will be viewers coming,and besides with our generation now there are no impossible to be done so lets see how it works and will this be entertained people.

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May 20, 2020, 10:57:55 AM
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Noise during a match it's like a "must" to have in tv show/live show.
If some of you have already see a live match in a stadium, there is not only the match to see but also listening the chorus, people that scream, players etc etc etc. So it could be and idea add this during broadcast hopefully this will not be the same as Vuvuzela  Grin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkKISn-DvQ sound  Roll Eyes
[During 2010 Fifa World Cup there was this annoying sound in any match and there was a discussion about how to cover this during live show...]

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May 20, 2020, 12:11:43 PM
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thats good that you confirm if the sound is done on an actual ring or not .  it would be weird if we see an empty stadium but with people shouting  .

i can imagine if what it will be sound or look like because i already saw/hear one like this on some videos.   we all know that they done this for a reason and that is because there are still a covid pandemic going on .  so people will just understand this
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May 23, 2020, 05:51:30 PM
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Wait? Is it there actual fans and crowd noise on NFL games? Cheesy I don't follow American football, but at least in NBA there is almost no atmosphere - people just watch games or eat instead of cheering for their team.
I watched some South Korean football league games where they play recorded sounds from fans. It doesn't sounds as bad as I expected, but I don't think it's really needed. Yes, it's weird and difficult to watch football in empty stadiums, when you can hear players and managers talking. But it's current reality and we have to accept that.
It depends on the stadium, there are some NFL stadiums that are nothing more but tourist traps that are very profitable but that do not really have any kind of atmosphere, but there are other stadiums like the CenturyLink field of the Seattle Seahawks and the Arrowhead stadium of the Kansas City Chiefs which are not only really loud but at some point they have held the Guinness World Record for the loudest stadium and as far as I know that record is still in possession of the Arrowhead stadium.
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May 24, 2020, 10:11:02 PM
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It depends on the stadium, there are some NFL stadiums that are nothing more but tourist traps that are very profitable but that do not really have any kind of atmosphere, but there are other stadiums like the CenturyLink field of the Seattle Seahawks and the Arrowhead stadium of the Kansas City Chiefs which are not only really loud but at some point they have held the Guinness World Record for the loudest stadium and as far as I know that record is still in possession of the Arrowhead stadium.
Thanks for explanation. I know about atmosphere in NBA or NHL arenas or MLS stadiums, but I was completely unfamiliar with things on NFL. In NBA it's so bad that I can't even describe it, but in some MLS stadiums atmosphere is actually better than in some stadiums in Europe. Good to hear that there is some loud stadiums in NFL. You know, there is lot of stereotypes about American people who came to sports event to eat and spend their time well instead of supporting their team.

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May 25, 2020, 05:30:13 AM
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Noise during a match it's like a "must" to have in tv show/live show.
If some of you have already see a live match in a stadium, there is not only the match to see but also listening the chorus, people that scream, players etc etc etc. So it could be and idea add this during broadcast hopefully this will not be the same as Vuvuzela  Grin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkKISn-DvQ sound  Roll Eyes
[During 2010 Fifa World Cup there was this annoying sound in any match and there was a discussion about how to cover this during live show...]
I never go to the stadium, but I heard that the experience is exciting, and makes people forget about everything and only focus on watching the match. But in this pandemic, maybe we will miss that "sound" surrounding the stadium because I think the event will use social distancing to prevent the virus spreads. But I think that event without the audience will be temporary, and after the pandemic is gone, everything will be normal again. Maybe we will see a new normalisation that will happen in all countries.

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May 25, 2020, 05:41:54 AM
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So I have read this over the last couple of days and wanted to maybe get a discussion going if you think this would make the broadcast more interesting?

I have watched the german Bundesliga over the weekend without fans and it just seems weird... no fans, no crowd noises.
Takes away the atmosphere and makes the game almost seem a bit dull.

Of course the noise would only be in the broadcast and not in an empty stadium.

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It’s pretty much a done deal. I think whoever’s gonna be at that control is going to have to be very good at their job and be realistic with how a crowd would react depending on what just happened on the field. It’s really important. And then on top of that, they’re looking at putting virtual fans in the stands, so when you look at a wide shot, it looks like the stadium is jam-packed, and in fact, it’ll be empty.

So this is pretty much a done deal.

What do you think?
Yay or Nay?

Source: https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-fox-crowd-noise-covid-19-coronavirus
This is the only way to add income to sustain the operation of each sports that will be conducted this pandemic,adding Virtual
 fans will attract online viewers to enjoy their watching because it is kinda bored when they are just watching the action but
 there are no response from the fans(though this is artificial only)

Wait? Is it there actual fans and crowd noise on NFL games? Cheesy I don't follow American football, but at least in NBA there is almost no atmosphere - people just watch games or eat instead of cheering for their team.
I watched some South Korean football league games where they play recorded sounds from fans. It doesn't sounds as bad as I expected, but I don't think it's really needed. Yes, it's weird and difficult to watch football in empty stadiums, when you can hear players and managers talking. But it's current reality and we have to accept that.
actually Stadium where the NFL happens are more noisier than NBA games though it is not that noticed because mostly Open
 place so the crowds cheering is less sounds compared to basketball that has closed arena so the sound
 is compact and noticeable .

i have not been in any NFL games because i'm from asia but watching this over and over as GreenBay Packers and Miami
 Dolphins Fan i believe that i understand the game and also needs a artificial sound effect if ever they resume playing this Season.
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May 25, 2020, 05:51:11 AM
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Noise during a match it's like a "must" to have in tv show/live show.
If some of you have already see a live match in a stadium, there is not only the match to see but also listening the chorus, people that scream, players etc etc etc. So it could be and idea add this during broadcast hopefully this will not be the same as Vuvuzela  Grin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkKISn-DvQ sound  Roll Eyes
[During 2010 Fifa World Cup there was this annoying sound in any match and there was a discussion about how to cover this during live show...]
I never go to the stadium, but I heard that the experience is exciting, and makes people forget about everything and only focus on watching the match. But in this pandemic, maybe we will miss that "sound" surrounding the stadium because I think the event will use social distancing to prevent the virus spreads. But I think that event without the audience will be temporary, and after the pandemic is gone, everything will be normal again. Maybe we will see a new normalisation that will happen in all countries.

Live audience is something that motivates many players and their best comes out more when players see them cheering the team and players. We are going through some tough time and the decision of having the virtual fans and crowd noise is really good idea and for the time being it is going to work and also will boost players to some extent rather than having nothing.

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May 25, 2020, 08:19:13 AM
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I never go to the stadium, but I heard that the experience is exciting, and makes people forget about everything and only focus on watching the match. But in this pandemic, maybe we will miss that "sound" surrounding the stadium because I think the event will use social distancing to prevent the virus spreads. But I think that event without the audience will be temporary, and after the pandemic is gone, everything will be normal again. Maybe we will see a new normalisation that will happen in all countries.

Live audience is something that motivates many players and their best comes out more when players see them cheering the team and players. We are going through some tough time and the decision of having the virtual fans and crowd noise is really good idea and for the time being it is going to work and also will boost players to some extent rather than having nothing.
With the audience, the players will give their best performance to them as the players don't want to disappoint them. But I think with the virtual fans, that will provide something different to them, and maybe with the virtual fans, the players will still give the best performance as they know that their supporters will still support them. But still, the feels will be different if the supporters don't watch their performance in the stadium.

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June 19, 2020, 08:12:37 AM
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It happens really! Not in FOX Channel but this time has been done by Italian television (public service) Rai1 !

However it seems that this is not the best solution for a live streaming match, at least according the opinion of Aldo Grasso, a famous Italian journalist specialized in tv shows.

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Football without spectators cannot exist. And the flags with which the Olympic Stadium filled yesterday aroused the embarrassing effect of the Playstation
https://www.corriere.it/spettacoli/20_giugno_18/napoli-juve-stadio-vuoto-triste-ma-se-pubblico-virtuale-diventa-parodia-e83464cc-b132-11ea-842e-6a88f68d3e0a.shtml

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June 19, 2020, 09:41:40 AM
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It happens really! Not in FOX Channel but this time has been done by Italian television (public service) Rai1 !

However it seems that this is not the best solution for a live streaming match, at least according the opinion of Aldo Grasso, a famous Italian journalist specialized in tv shows.

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Football without spectators cannot exist. And the flags with which the Olympic Stadium filled yesterday aroused the embarrassing effect of the Playstation
https://www.corriere.it/spettacoli/20_giugno_18/napoli-juve-stadio-vuoto-triste-ma-se-pubblico-virtuale-diventa-parodia-e83464cc-b132-11ea-842e-6a88f68d3e0a.shtml



It shouldn't be happening without the consent of the viewers, like I stated before. It's based on deception if don't quickly remind them you are doing that for their own good or something. Hope the viewers were told and reminded though

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