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June 29, 2020, 06:50:38 AM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better...
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June 29, 2020, 07:05:18 AM |
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This is the need of the hour and since maintaining social distance is a must in this times, so we cannot allow the live crowd firstly in full capacity and if board decides to avoid the live audience then this idea of having the virtual fans and crowd noise is really worthwhile. because there are some games which requires the audience cheering up as it encourages the players and team. Also, this could be replicate in many other games for now.
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June 29, 2020, 08:23:37 AM |
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I can understand if they’ll introduce it into broadcast matches from TV screens to increase the interest of the audience, but I don’t understand what is the point of introducing this directly into the matches themselves. After all, someone will have to sit and press buttons for various gaming moments, thereby creating artificial noise. Obviously, the AI will not cope with this, which means that the role of the "crowd" will be played by one or a group of people. This is comparable to the artificial applause played from a tape recorder.
I think the sound will be like at the game Soccer, which we can hear the sound of the virtual audience if we can make a goal. That person will have a job to push the buttons for any bad or good moments, but the commentator will still be used to the match. I think the AI is not too necessary because they can record the sound from the game or the other sources. But it will not be as good as the real audience who come and watch the match. It would be nice to somehow implement the idea when the voice of a person sitting at home was transmitted through a microphone to the stadium, but I'm afraid it is technically too difficult to implement. I think the biggest work is now assigned to the commentator, because it will be he who will crush the intensity of emotions during the match, which means that the noise of the stands will be adjusted for him.
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June 29, 2020, 09:36:43 AM |
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Virtual audience, virtual judges, and with virtual players we would cover everything! This is crazy in my opinion, the need for fake audiences, and purpose is what? Fake public for fake feelings, where are we going with this? I would say better to play on empty stadiums and when this virus passes people will come to stadiums again, there's no need for fake things that will give you fake feelings. But it's me, if I wish virtual public and players I will play PES on Sony.
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June 29, 2020, 10:19:55 AM |
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How about this? They let people back into the stadiums by opening day, Thursday, Sept. 10th? That way they can have real crowd noises and don't have to do that artificial B.S. It's still well over 2 months away! Seriously don't understand how much longer this virus has to disrupt everything. Maybe just make the attendees sign waivers that they won't sue if they contract the virus at the stadium.
I would also encourage people to wear face masks and give them away for free with each ticket collected at the entrance, but not make it mandatory. You can't very well eat a hot dog and drink a beer while wearing a mask. Trust me I already tried.
If worse comes to worse, I have no doubt the NFL will do an excellent job of producing fake crowds and noise. Their production values are top notch. It may be a bit wonky during the first few games as they get the system hammered out, but I could live with it.
Still seems like its taking away from the overall experience of the sport, even as a TV viewer or radio listener :/
Just happy they're not delaying/canceling the season altogether.
Curse this idiotic virus.
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June 29, 2020, 12:24:51 PM |
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How about this? They let people back into the stadiums by opening day, Thursday, Sept. 10th? That way they can have real crowd noises and don't have to do that artificial B.S. It's still well over 2 months away! Seriously don't understand how much longer this virus has to disrupt everything. Maybe just make the attendees sign waivers that they won't sue if they contract the virus at the stadium.
It can be done, but the event staff needs to check every people who want to watch the match. They need to make sure that people are healthy, and not as a carrier or asymptomatic because that can make other people infected. Maybe they need to discuss with the other staff to invite people but in the limited number of people. I would also encourage people to wear face masks and give them away for free with each ticket collected at the entrance, but not make it mandatory. You can't very well eat a hot dog and drink a beer while wearing a mask. Trust me I already tried.
It is a must in these situations, but I am afraid they will not obey that. I think people who don't use a mask will not allow watching in the stadium, which is the consequence for them.
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June 29, 2020, 12:42:22 PM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better... great idea ,i never thought of this instead what mostly tackle here is about the fake sounds and not adding images like this Hologram. With the technology we have now?we are from advanced than 2012 when they use this in memory of 2pac.
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June 29, 2020, 01:43:02 PM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better... That makes sense and also we can see how far this technology goes. Holograms, I only see them in some sci-fi movies. now if given more days to live, I can finally witness how it will look like if used in the public. If this is the case, then the match will no longer far from being real. The best thing about this pandemic is we can try something that we aren't supposed to do and that's cool.
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June 29, 2020, 02:26:40 PM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better... That makes sense and also we can see how far this technology goes. Holograms, I only see them in some sci-fi movies. now if given more days to live, I can finally witness how it will look like if used in the public. If this is the case, then the match will no longer far from being real. The best thing about this pandemic is we can try something that we aren't supposed to do and that's cool. no we shouldnt give credits to covid because this idea is not new and already been used before . covid here is still our enemy and people's creativity are still being released without covid . match is already real but only the fans were not because they are restricted but this hologram idea can be our best option just to continue the game online or on national t.v compare to a standard visualization that may look ugly yet .
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June 29, 2020, 07:25:46 PM |
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This is the need of the hour and since maintaining social distance is a must in this times, so we cannot allow the live crowd firstly in full capacity and if board decides to avoid the live audience then this idea of having the virtual fans and crowd noise is really worthwhile. because there are some games which requires the audience cheering up as it encourages the players and team. Also, this could be replicate in many other games for now.
I see the point in creating artificial noise in the broadcasts, because this will increase the enthusiasm of the viewer. However, what is the point of creating in the field where the players play? After all, fans have always been considered an additional player for the team. In the current conditions, it will be necessary to distribute the noise evenly on both teams so that there would not be an advantage in either direction. But then it’s easier not to make any noise whatsoever for the teams to play on equal terms. And let the audience have fun as they please.
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June 30, 2020, 02:58:11 AM |
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I can understand if they’ll introduce it into broadcast matches from TV screens to increase the interest of the audience, but I don’t understand what is the point of introducing this directly into the matches themselves. After all, someone will have to sit and press buttons for various gaming moments, thereby creating artificial noise. Obviously, the AI will not cope with this, which means that the role of the "crowd" will be played by one or a group of people. This is comparable to the artificial applause played from a tape recorder.
I think the sound will be like at the game Soccer, which we can hear the sound of the virtual audience if we can make a goal. That person will have a job to push the buttons for any bad or good moments, but the commentator will still be used to the match. I think the AI is not too necessary because they can record the sound from the game or the other sources. But it will not be as good as the real audience who come and watch the match. It would be nice to somehow implement the idea when the voice of a person sitting at home was transmitted through a microphone to the stadium, but I'm afraid it is technically too difficult to implement. I think the biggest work is now assigned to the commentator, because it will be he who will crush the intensity of emotions during the match, which means that the noise of the stands will be adjusted for him. I don't think it will be easy to use a microphone at home to be transmitted in the stadium because that needs more work to see. Besides that, I can not imagine how it will be if many microphones transmitted at the same time in the stadium. It is better to use the commentator in the stadium, which explains what is happening in the field while we can watch the match at our home.
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June 30, 2020, 04:10:48 AM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
That's a good idea, as long as the players can feel the presence of crowds even if they are virtual, that will motivate them to play harder, there is a difference if there are crowds and there are none, it will just like a practice and exhibition if no crowds are around, even those watching at home will see the intensity if there are crowds are around even if they are virtual only.
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June 30, 2020, 04:38:28 AM |
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This Nypost article mentioned what NBA broadcasts will be like to make the games more fun and entertaining for players and viewers. Organizers are thinking of getting fans to participate through an app. They will send out the noise and excitement they feel at home while watching their favorite game. There is also talk of doing a competition among fans. Taking advantage of their live emotions. Maybe this strategy is implemented for other sporting events like the NFL. https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/mavericks-mark-cuban-sounds-off-on-nba-restart-black-lives-matter/
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June 30, 2020, 09:05:30 AM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
That's a good idea, as long as the players can feel the presence of crowds even if they are virtual, that will motivate them to play harder, there is a difference if there are crowds and there are none, it will just like a practice and exhibition if no crowds are around, even those watching at home will see the intensity if there are crowds are around even if they are virtual only. Personally I've seen those holograms do their work and it's not for everyone. Fake noise maybe it's not so bad because it's about bringing back familiarity that people already have unless they have empty stadiums or quiet ones like ManCity;) But for me to hear about motivation, if players need holograms to play better, they're probably not the players you want on your team!
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June 30, 2020, 09:29:10 AM |
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better... It should be hologram of real live sounds and spectactors then... so sports don't slowly degenerate from the real to the fake, and people in the distant future won't even remember what actual sport was like in the past. Hopefully people don't gradually lose meaning of real things with the way things are moving to the virtual computer world
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.
Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better... It should be hologram of real live sounds and spectactors then... so sports don't slowly degenerate from the real to the fake, and people in the distant future won't even remember what actual sport was like in the past. Hopefully people don't gradually lose meaning of real things with the way things are moving to the virtual computer world The other day I watched footbal match and at first I thought how come that there are people at the stadium. Then I saw that the audience is made of paper and there is recorded sound of the crowd cheering and making noise that was present all the time. I have to.admit that looked weird and funny to me and I definetely wouldn't like that sport turns into this, what a shame that would be...
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June 30, 2020, 04:40:15 PM |
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Virtual audience, virtual judges, and with virtual players we would cover everything! This is crazy in my opinion, the need for fake audiences, and purpose is what? Fake public for fake feelings, where are we going with this? I would say better to play on empty stadiums and when this virus passes people will come to stadiums again, there's no need for fake things that will give you fake feelings. But it's me, if I wish virtual public and players I will play PES on Sony.
Exactly. I think the scenario is not ruled out in which during the next pandemic we will watch games with virtual players controlled by artificial intelligence. Each player will own his own AI, learn and adapt. Bets will be made on this, and at some point, it is possible that this could become a trend. It sounds terrible, but it is precisely such thoughts that arise when I hear news about a fake audience.
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How about this? They let people back into the stadiums by opening day, Thursday, Sept. 10th? That way they can have real crowd noises and don't have to do that artificial B.S. It's still well over 2 months away! Seriously don't understand how much longer this virus has to disrupt everything. Maybe just make the attendees sign waivers that they won't sue if they contract the virus at the stadium. the MLB is set to start its shortened season in a few weeks and isn't ruling out allowing fans in stadiums. it sounds like it will depend on local authorities. in turn, i guess that depends on where and whether coronavirus cases keep surging. we might see limited capacity in some stadiums and no fans in others. https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2020-06-27/major-league-baseball-is-not-totally-ruling-out-fans-for-2020This Nypost article mentioned what NBA broadcasts will be like to make the games more fun and entertaining for players and viewers. Organizers are thinking of getting fans to participate through an app. They will send out the noise and excitement they feel at home while watching their favorite game. There is also talk of doing a competition among fans. Taking advantage of their live emotions. Maybe this strategy is implemented for other sporting events like the NFL.
i imagine it will be. it's something but certainly no replacement for live sports venues.
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June 30, 2020, 09:23:57 PM |
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This must be such a surreal experience for Americans.
In Europe it's often that teams can get penalized by their league because of their fans or player misconduct, and they can end up playing with no fans. It's a disincentive to acting out because it's also hurting teams financially. But also a season's ticket for games in Europe costs as much as a couple or so of seats in a game in the US so it's hard to compare the two. It's a completely different type of experience.
In Europe oftentimes fans are working-class while in the US it's more of a luxury to visit a stadium. The spirit is also different in the crowds. I don't think it'll be much of an impact to play without fans for a game of American football. It's better to have the game run than not anyway. But to have mock fans is just adding insult to injury.
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June 30, 2020, 09:26:05 PM |
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Virtual audience, virtual judges, and with virtual players we would cover everything! This is crazy in my opinion, the need for fake audiences, and purpose is what? Fake public for fake feelings, where are we going with this? I would say better to play on empty stadiums and when this virus passes people will come to stadiums again, there's no need for fake things that will give you fake feelings.
People are not that dumb. Obviously, they know it's virtual. Do you really think it will lead to "fake feelings" as you mentioned lol? It's just that they want to add some spice in the new normal scene. I don't see anything wrong with that. Let them just do what they want to add entertainment to household viewers.
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