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May 25, 2020, 04:40:49 AM
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wow, today I learned another signal to predict the price of bitcoin in the future. I have also heard about bitcoin's hashrate analysis that can predict future prices. Through many examples, I find that this is also a case that should be analyzed and included in our investment plan. I hope this time the price will drop sharply so that I can buy more at $ 8k or $ 7k.
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May 25, 2020, 08:37:10 AM
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There is definitely something to the idea that BTC miners are at their core BTC investors speculating just like us. Their exuberance and market capitulations are primarily observable through hash rate and only secondarily through price. This has to mean something in terms of investor sentiment (as you say, "blood in the streets") which in my experience is the biggest determining factor for long term market cycles.

I used to take the position that price determines hash rate, period. After hearing the (somewhat convincing) opinions of some OG miners and researching price vs. hash rate correlations over different periods, I am much more agnostic on the subject now. Impossible to say it's 100% this or 100% that.

I have only met one miner in real life and they are definitely speculators. The guy just has rigs that he even hires people to manage, he has no wallet except the ones he receives his share of payments to (he uses a pool).

So it's definitely about money to him. He believes 100k BTC is coming, and soon even 500k in time to come.

If he switches off, it'll be because he can't make money. Simple.

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May 25, 2020, 11:30:16 AM
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Hence the reason why the hashrate decreased in the first place to cause a "buy" alert.

The only times were during bear markets and it could be a coincidence that during those bear markets which caused the "buy" signal we ended up reversing.


That is not the case, look at the chart, half or more of the signals did not trigger the way you describe them, miners don't capitulate only if the price dips, the mining business is way more complex compared to the average HODL business, miners can capitulate on the way up or the sideways market just the same as they capitulate on bear markets, there is a ton of explainings and reasons on why these facts are valid, I know it's hard to understand that miners can capitulate even when the price is going up, but it happens and it has happened before, and there are solid reasons for why that happens.


I used to take the position that price determines hash rate, period. After hearing the (somewhat convincing) opinions of some OG miners and researching price vs. hash rate correlations over different periods, I am much more agnostic on the subject now. Impossible to say it's 100% this or 100% that.

I would have been surprised if you sided the herd into taking anything else but this, looking at the charts for so long and analyzing the fundamentals of the market makes you see things the average joe can't see, the correlations between hashrate and price in both directions is one of a lot of things traders observe.

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May 25, 2020, 01:09:26 PM
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wow, today I learned another signal to predict the price of bitcoin in the future. I have also heard about bitcoin's hashrate analysis that can predict future prices. Through many examples, I find that this is also a case that should be analyzed and included in our investment plan. I hope this time the price will drop sharply so that I can buy more at $ 8k or $ 7k.
$ 8,000 can still be touched, but for $ 7,000 I'm not sure there will be accumulation there, because this time the situation of the crypto currency market is experiencing an upward trend, so it's better to accumulate at the price of $ 8000 is the right part

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May 25, 2020, 06:49:12 PM
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Yes, mining difficulty does play its role in bitcoin price but it's not reflected in real-time.
Bitcoin is a whale game, now it will range till alts complete their cycle. Thats why recent price dump did not break price structure for many of the alts. Alts are still pumping.
Once we will be out of that cycle, Bitcoin price will start moving in a trend.
Thats what i see happening

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May 25, 2020, 07:47:26 PM
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Miners who are small timers that needs to sell the coins they mine in order to pay for the costs of mining is the ones that closed shop I believe. I mean there is no data who stopped and who continues but that makes the most sense. The price went down because people are using different currencies right now to make transactions, which is why altcoins have gone up while bitcoin went down. Look at all the other times when the market crashes, usually altcoins goes down when bitcoin goes down and altcoins go up when bitcoins go up as well.

This time they were different, why? Because people are not leaving crypto at this moment, they still think crypto is cool, the only reason why they left bitcoin is the simple fact that its old and slow right now, eventually that will be fixed and price will go up again.
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May 25, 2020, 08:15:55 PM
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its nothing to do with the transactions. This cycle of money moving from bitcoin to altcoin is happening forever. Move and money in alts now, then move to bitcoin and repeat.

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May 25, 2020, 08:34:08 PM
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its nothing to do with the transactions. This cycle of money moving from bitcoin to altcoin is happening forever. Move and money in alts now, then move to bitcoin and repeat.

I agree. Altcoins are so fucking bullish for BTC. This is something BTC purists don't understand. During strong bull markets, money flows back and forth between alts and BTC. Where people used to sell BTC for fiat, they start selling for alts instead. This reinforces bullish pressure on BTC in two ways: less supply (BTC/fiat exchange supply shifts to BTC/ALT markets and altcoin exchanges) and more demand (people are buying BTC to send to altcoin exchanges).

Despite the recent pumps in alts, I'm still skeptical until BTC officially breaks the year-long downtrend by breaking above $10.5K. Until then, altcoin investors may be jumping the gun. There could be one more bout of blood in the altcoin markets, not sure yet.

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May 29, 2020, 04:03:31 AM
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But now Bitcoin is telling who is the boss. Bitcoin still governs the market direction and structure. So even if Alts have good charts to trade, once bitcoin decides, it breaks the entire market structure for alts so fast.

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May 29, 2020, 08:42:13 AM
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So this usually doesn't pass me by, but only saw the news today that an "unusually large" amount of contract expirations coming up today on CME. It's always been on the news radar, but funny that the volume escaped notice from the newsboys till today (or I haven't been keeping up with the Joneses).

It has been a weird (or not) couple of post-halving weeks of ho-hum boring stability, I suppose it was these expirations coming up that helped bump yesterday and today's rates.

10k on the cards today? Before another traceback on Sunday/Monday then?

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