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May 19, 2020, 10:35:53 PM
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New user po ng coins.ph
may nag send po sakin ng btc (via shoppy.gg) tapos sabi po nung nag send confirmed na daw may na receive din po akong email galing kay shoppy na Sales received

so bali 10 hours napo akong nag iintay hanggang ngayon 0 confirmation pa din po
ito po yung link: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/4e664e5bda397e0c638a5b563b51719433a438097d320077d0254cbfe0a87184

ito po yung proof na mahigit 10 hours na sya.
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May 19, 2020, 10:42:48 PM
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Kunting pasensya pa sir, mukhang matatagalan pa bago makapasok yan sa Coins account mo dahil minimum transaction fee lang ang ni lagay ng sender. Kung titignan mo unconfirmed pa yung status sa blockchain.

Hintayin mo lang mag atleast 3 confirmations yan at papasok din yan sa account mo. For now, wag ka lang mag worry, hindi reversible ang transactions dito sa blockchain kaya papasok yan medyo matagal nga lang.

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May 19, 2020, 10:45:18 PM
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Kunting pasensya pa sir, mukhang matatagalan pa bago makapasok yan sa Coins account mo dahil minimum transaction fee lang ang ni lagay ng sender. Kung titignan mo unconfirmed pa yung status sa blockchain.

https://ibb.co/kKRhcJC
Hintayin mo lang mag atleast 3 confirmations yan at papasok din yan sa account mo. For now, wag ka lang mag worry, hindi reversible ang transactions dito sa blockchain kaya papasok yan medyo matagal nga lang.

ay ganon po ba salamat po sa pag sagot aabutin po kaya yan ng mga 1 week?
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May 19, 2020, 10:46:45 PM
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Looking at the fees, masyado mababa yung linagay na 8 sats/byte.

Average ngayon is 181 sats/byte para ma confirm within ~60 mins. I’m afraid matatagalan pa yung pag confirm niyang transaction sayo.

Hintay hintay na lang muna tayo. Bumaba din kasi ang hash power ng miners dahil sa halving. Kaya nag mahal ang fee.




ay ganon po ba salamat po sa pag sagot aabutin po kaya yan ng mga 1 week?
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May 20, 2020, 01:20:27 AM
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If may kilala kang miner na pwedeng i-accelerate yang transaction na yan at mapapadali ang proseso. Since katatapos palang ng halving fees will really blow up at considering you just sent 8 sat/bytes it may take weeks miners will surely take yung highest fees.

A guy from Reddit transacted 1 sat/byte way back 2017 imagine hindi pa gaanong mababa hash power ng miners niyan and the transaction ay hindi na process even 8 days na. Malamang yang 8 sat/bytes ay kasing baba ng 1 sat/byte noon. Here's the link to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7ebfkf/how_long_do_you_think_will_1_satbyte_transaction/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comments_view_all
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May 20, 2020, 02:21:42 AM
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If may kilala kang miner na pwedeng i-accelerate yang transaction na yan at mapapadali ang proseso. Since katatapos palang ng halving fees will really blow up at considering you just sent 8 sat/bytes it may take weeks miners will surely take yung highest fees.

A guy from Reddit transacted 1 sat/byte way back 2017 imagine hindi pa gaanong mababa hash power ng miners niyan and the transaction ay hindi na process even 8 days na. Malamang yang 8 sat/bytes ay kasing baba ng 1 sat/byte noon. Here's the link to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7ebfkf/how_long_do_you_think_will_1_satbyte_transaction/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comments_view_all

salamat po sa info mukhang matagalang pag iintay to ah  Cry
btw ako po yung pinadalhan message po ba sya para mapabilis yung confirmation?
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May 20, 2020, 02:40:16 AM
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btw ako po yung pinadalhan message po ba sya para mapabilis yung confirmation?

What?

Anyway, pwede mo syang pagbayarin ng paid transaction accelerator services para mapabilis ng konti ung transaction, kung talagang urgent.

I don't suggest using such services, pero kung talagang urgent, why not. Since hindi ganun kalakihan ung BTC sa transaction though, most likely hindi to worth it and you're better off waiting nalang.

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May 20, 2020, 05:55:49 AM
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salamat po sa info mukhang matagalang pag iintay to ah  Cry
btw ako po yung pinadalhan message po ba sya para mapabilis yung confirmation?
Kahit i-message mo siya parang malabo na rin kasi tulad ng nabanggit ni mk4 yung accelerator na lang yung other option at ito yung estimated fee para ma accelerate yung transaction niyo.

Sobra na siguro yung isang linggong pag aantay, according sa blockstream aabutin ng 144 blocks bago mag confirm so probably mga 2-3 days confirmed na yan.

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Pwede rin gamitan ng RBF (replace by fee protocol).  Bale magdouble spend  kung hindi pa nacoconfirm ang transaction at gamitan ng RBF, kung saan tataasan ang transaction fee ng nasabing .
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1) Double spend with a higher fee (RBF).

1a) Using the "Replace by Fee"-protocol - this probably does not apply to you, but it's arguably the best way to "unstick" transactions. If the original transaction is marked up with "RBF allowed", most of the network will accept a replacement transaction with a higher fee. Not all wallets supports setting this flag, and even fewer has RBF turned on by default - for a good reason, the RBF protocol allows an unconfirmed transaction to be reverted, so using the RBF-flag is a terrible idea if you want someone to trust a zero-conf transaction. (the RBF-feature has been removed from most Bitcoin Cash software, as they deem it both "harmful" and "not needed").

1b) Doing RBF/"Double spend" even if the original transaction was not marked as RBF. Miners (and nodes) are supposed to ignore the double spend transaction - but you may be lucky. You may need to use specialized software to perform such a double spend. It may work, either because the original transaction has ended up in a "ghost-like" state where it's known by some nodes but not others - maybe some miners are unaware that you're doing a double-spend - or it may work because some miners deliberately accepts double-spent transactions as they can earn more fees on it.

Possible rin ang CPFP (child pay for parent) ang problema lang dito ay wala kang access sa wallet address ng coins.ph to do such method.

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2) Child Pays for Parent (CPFP). if a new transaction is made with a high fee, building on top of the old transaction, most of the miners will include the whole chain of transaction in the block they're mining at.

2a) Get the receiver of the funds to spend the funds they received on a new transaction, with high fee. This may of course not always be possible, but ...

2b) If not all the money in the wallet was spent, the transaction will typically include two outputs, one "change UTXO" that goes back to the wallet. If you can spend this one with a higher fee, the transaction may go through faster. Some wallets have a menu option for "accelerating" the transaction through "CPFP". In some wallets one can manually decide what UTXOs to include in the transaction. One can also send all the funds in the wallet i.e. back to an address belonging to the same wallet, but the fee for that may become excessive as the wallet may be filled up with "dust" making such a transaction big and costly. Electrum does support spending some specific UTXO, and Mycelium has the "CPFP" acceleration button. If you can take out a backup seed phrase from your wallet, it can most likely be used in Electrum or Mycelium.

Then pwede rin iyong sinabi ng naunang nagreply na through accelerator.

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May 20, 2020, 06:07:43 AM
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salamat po sa info mukhang matagalang pag iintay to ah  Cry
btw ako po yung pinadalhan message po ba sya para mapabilis yung confirmation?
Bro baka makatulong sayo ang thread na ito: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034315.0
Nagaaccelerate yan ng transaction, pwede libre o bayad. Kung gusto mo na talaga mapadali, I suggest you to contact him kasi ang baba ng tx fee na linagay mo.

May alam akong site na pwedeng iaccelerate ang tx. Pero di ko alam kung pwede yun ipost dito. Haha. So, yan na lang muna ang maitutulong ko muna sayo po. Click mo na lang yang thread kabayan. And don't worry if di urgent, dadating naman yun.

Welcome to the bitcoin clogging transactions.

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May 20, 2020, 08:13:45 AM
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Salamat po sa mga tulong nyo siguradong darating naman po ba yan diba? Kasi po ibibigay ko na sa kanya yung product. Maraming salamat po sa mga sumagot.
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Salamat po sa mga tulong nyo siguradong darating naman po ba yan diba? Kasi po ibibigay ko na sa kanya yung product. Maraming salamat po sa mga sumagot.

Walang kasiguraduhan ito, since until now 0 confirmation pa din sya ito yung pinaka-vulnerable sa attack ma-aaring mareverse yung transaction nito if talagang into yung pakay ng buyer mo. If I were you I'll wait nalang muna kahit ma-delay yung payment until I get 1 confirmation sa transaction na ito. I-explain mo sa buyer mo na kahit confirmed na ng Shopee yung payment dahil sa sobrang baba ng fees wala pang confirmation yung payment niya sa Bitcoin network, maiintindihan naman niya siguro ito if totoong buyer sya at hindi ka sinusubukan i-scam.

     

Also sinubukan ko i-accelerate yung transaction mo I don't know if merong epekto ito dahil sobrang baba ng fees ng nag-send sayo which is 8sat/B if titignan mo kung ilan kayong transactions na may 10sat/B or below makikita mo nasa may 20k+ kayo ang priority ng mga miners syempre yung mga matataas yung fees. Share ko lang experience ko about sa mga ganitong transactions ko na may mababang fees. Dati may mga transaction ako na 60-70sat/B for a .012BTC transaction for 2 weeks wala ako naging confirmation ni-isa so I doubt makakatulong yung mga free BTC tx accelerators dito. So siguro I'll wait for a week kung magkaroon man ako ng isang confirmation bago ako mag-decide kung i-sesend ko ba yung product for shipping.


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May 22, 2020, 05:21:03 AM
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Balitaan ko lang kayo guys confirmed na po sya ngayon after 3 days. Maraming salamat po sa inyo.  Smiley
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May 24, 2020, 08:14:43 PM
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Balitaan ko lang kayo guys confirmed na po sya ngayon after 3 days. Maraming salamat po sa inyo.  Smiley
Sh*t that's worst, 3 days before ma confirm? Ang liit ng transaction size pero umabot ng ilang days, though maliit ang fee pero sakto lang sa tx size eh, parang masyadon madalas na magiging ganito status ng network.
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Finally the confirm na rin, congrats sayo, kahit medyo matagal dumating at least na confirm na.
Ganon talaga lately, biglang nag congestion ang network at lumaki ang transaction fee, you are not the only one who experience it.

But this time around, I guess we are already back to normal.

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May 26, 2020, 06:50:27 AM
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Yung akin din minsan ganyan lalo na pag low fee pa ginamit ko. (syempre nagtitipid ako) Matagal dumating sa coins.ph wallet mo pero makikita mo naman sa wallet mo na incoming ito. bastat tama ang address darating at darating din yun ganyan talaga sa btc blockchain medyo matagal kung nag titipid ka sa fee
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May 26, 2020, 08:50:07 AM
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Yung akin din minsan ganyan lalo na pag low fee pa ginamit ko. (syempre nagtitipid ako) Matagal dumating sa coins.ph wallet mo pero makikita mo naman sa wallet mo na incoming ito. bastat tama ang address darating at darating din yun ganyan talaga sa btc blockchain medyo matagal kung nag titipid ka sa fee
I think normal na lang din ang mga ganyang transaction minsan talaga nagtatraffic yong transaction naaalala ko dati ilabot pa ko ng 1 week para lang sa isang transaction.

Buti ngayon hindi na nangyayari so far kapag coins.ph naman ang gamit ko pinakamatagal na siguro sa mga transactions yong 3 days kapag wala parin give it a couple days then report nalang sa support. Di pa naman ako nawalan sa coins.ph as long as recorded na ang transaction sa blockchain no problem na rin yan sa coins.ph.  Smiley

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May 26, 2020, 01:52:22 PM
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New user po ng coins.ph
may nag send po sakin ng btc (via shoppy.gg) tapos sabi po nung nag send confirmed na daw may na receive din po akong email galing kay shoppy na Sales received

so bali 10 hours napo akong nag iintay hanggang ngayon 0 confirmation pa din po
ito po yung link: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/4e664e5bda397e0c638a5b563b51719433a438097d320077d0254cbfe0a87184

ito po yung proof na mahigit 10 hours na sya.

at least now may alam kana sa Crypto lalo na sa pag apply ng fees bawat transactions,sana wag naman abutin ng isang linggo kasi ako pinaka matagal ko na naranasan sa pag gamit ng pinaka mababang fee ay 3 days,pero natapat naman yon ng biglaang pag angat ng presyo ng bitcoin kaya andaming gumagamit ng blockchain.









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May 26, 2020, 06:15:10 PM
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Nagkaroon talaga ng congestion lately sa mempool pero @OP reply ka dahil ok na yung problema mo. Confirmed na siya.

Yung akin din minsan ganyan lalo na pag low fee pa ginamit ko. (syempre nagtitipid ako) Matagal dumating sa coins.ph wallet mo pero makikita mo naman sa wallet mo na incoming ito.
Para maiwasan yung sobrang bagal na confirmation, adjust niyo nalang lagi yung fee kung nagmamadali kayo. Pero kung hindi naman kayo nagmamadali, ok lang din naman na antayin niyo nalang siya ma confirm kahit na mababa lang ang fee.

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